HELP!!!! Ideas for favorite tournament

[Leo-Unibet]

We are discussing doing some changes to the exciting tournament schedule. And we would love to have some feedback from you guys on how a "perfect" tournament would look like. I hope as many as possible can share their ideas, so we have a good ground to stand on.

Please copy this ridiculously ugly template below when you are posting your favorite tournament.

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       5000
Level up time                                                                                   8
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          YES
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         1 Re-entry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €10
Preferred start time CET                                                         20:00

[CristianPoker80]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       10000
Level up time                                                                                   4
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          YES or Not
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Freeze or Unlimited Re-entry + Add-on
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   6
Buyin                                                                                             €1,2,5
Preferred start time CET                                                         Between 13:00 to 18:00

[Pionrj]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       1500(50bb)
Level up time                                                                                5-8mins
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          Either way
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Unlimited re-entrys
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €5+
Preferred start time CET                                                         09:00-15:00

LATE REG                                                                              5 levels(30-60-90-120-150)

 

So basically just faster Wormhole. But something playable to the morning/early day schedule.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Pionrj

[Farseer]

Midnight Madness Banzai Bounty

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       300
Level up time                                                                                   20 / 3
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          YES 50/50
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Unlimited Re-entry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   6
Buyin                                                                                             €25
Preferred start time CET                                                         00:05 (Midnight Madness)

Edited February 3, 2022 by Farseer

[Ja-z-Polszy]

More tournamnet like Venus structure.

Freezouts or with 1 re-entry.

Start 19-21 CET

Buyin 5-25€

[Merenitsu]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       1500 (50bb)
Level up time                                                                                   5
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          YES
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         1 Re-entry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €2
Preferred start time CET                                                         20:00

[Livertool]

7 hours ago, Leo-Unibet said:

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       5000
Level up time                                                                                   5
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          No
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Freeze
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €10-25
Preferred start time CET                                                         18:00-20:00

 

[successlaw]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       5000
Level up time                                                                                   4-5
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          NO
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         1 Re-entry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                            0.5, 1  or 2
Preferred start time CET                                                         19:00 to 23:00

[bctrips]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                 5000 or 10000
Level up time                                                                                  8
Bounty YES/NO                                                                            NO
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         up to 3 Re-entry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                               9 or 6
Buyin                                                                                             €50+
Preferred start time CET                                                         19.00-20:30

[sgriff]

Number of Chips                                                                       100BB-150BB

Level up time                                                                                   8
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          No
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Any as long as not multi re-entries
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                            €5- €10
Preferred start time CET                                                         19:00

Key thing for me is to reduce how late people can register, although that is more of a problem for the qualifiers

[Boby]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                      1500
Level up time                                                                                   10-15 min
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          no
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         1 Re-entry + 1 add-on
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   6
Buyin                                                                                             €10-50
Preferred start time                                                          20:00

[SickOldIMLOF]

Configurations                                                                
Number of Chips                                                                        5000
Level up time                                                                                     8
Bounty YES/NO                                                                              NO
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A                Freeze
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                      9
Buyin                                                                                               €10
Preferred start time CET                                             21:00 - 22:00

 

I like Farseer idea for some Midnight Madness too, but way too high buyin for me, I would play 5€ version of it and maybe take a shot in 10€ from time to time

[SeizedProfessional]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       5000
Level up time                                                                                   8
Bounty YES/NO                                                                         NO
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         rebuy and add on
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   6
Buyin                                                                                             €10 or higher
Preferred start time CET                                                         5pm

 

6 max is soo much more fun and more hands played than 9 max, i dont understand why everyone is votingg for the 9 max stuff! likewise, we have sooo many pko tourneys, it would be nice to have more regular non pko 

[Sparrow473]

@Leo-UnibetIs there any chance that 2 eur R/A MTT finishes before 23:30 CET? Because now it starts at 21:30, and finished 01:40 when I won it last time (next day I was off so afford to play). So it is too long, and finishes too late. I prefer earlier start and a bit shorter levels (or no add-on perhaps?).

Thx in advance.

[waffel]

Every final table should be 9 handed. Not two tables of 3/6 4/6 before it goes to 1 of 6. It would be much better for the tourney. And of course deal making but this has been discussed a lot before I think. Like yesterday final table black hole, took us 6 and a half hours, I had 35bb he had 25bb. If agreed we should be able to just chop it up (60/40). €100 difference in a €5 mtt is a lot of variance for a situation you don't get into very often. Also maybe change the blind structure once into the ft. 

Just throwing it out there, everything for me is fine as it is now.

[startelver]

I would like to see a slow structure with a buy-in of €10 , you find plenty of them on other sites , but not here. And not PKO. Just a normal tournament like the one we played 10-15 years ago. 

Configurations                                                                 Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       10000
Level up time                                                                               12
Bounty YES/NO                                                                            NO
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A              Freeze
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €10
Preferred start time CET                                                         19:00

[TrondMS]

Try to offer something other sites dont have . Seven card stud mtt, 5 card draw MTT, mixed game tourneys. 

[Sparrow473]

On 2/10/2022 at 5:36 PM, Sparrow473 said:

that 2 eur R/A MTT

shit, I forgot to write Galaxy Omaha...

[GothMoth]

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                         3000
Level up time                                                                                   8
Bounty YES/NO                                                                              No
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Freezeout or 1 Re-entry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                    9
Buyin                                                                                             5€ - €10
Preferred start time CET                                                        17:00 - 20:00

[jerry]

Configurations                                                                
Number of Chips                                                                        5000
Level up time                                                                                     6
Bounty YES/NO                                                                              yes
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A               1 reentry
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                      9
Buyin                                                                                               1-€5
Preferred start time CET                                             18:00 - 21:00

[GothMoth]

On 2/12/2022 at 11:20 PM, startelver said:

I would like to see a slow structure with a buy-in of €10 , you find plenty of them on other sites , but not here. And not PKO. Just a normal tournament like the one we played 10-15 years ago. 

Configurations                                                                 Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       10000
Level up time                                                                               12
Bounty YES/NO                                                                            NO
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A              Freeze
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €10
Preferred start time CET                                                         19:00

I agree with you @startelver  . The only thing which I find really unnecesary here is the enourmous Number of Chips  - 10000. I still can't comprehend a tournament which starts with 333BB - I'd never preregister that on purpose, esp, with such rather long levels. The slow structure could be achieved by other ways!  The starting stack above, or even 200BB just make the first levels very boring, nitty and basically waiting for the nuts game. Just observe how the playerpool increases during the late registration in the Supernova for example and you'll get the whole picture and most importantly when the most of the players like to enter...

Those are my observations which I put emphasize on.This is because I'd be very grateful if @Leo-Unibet find a time to share his thoughts on this one, rather than to criticize @startelver.  As I've already mentioned, my own ideas are very similar, esp. in regards to freezeouts with larger buy-ins €10 - €100.

If the other regs like to discuss this particular "too-deep phenomenon", please share your thoughts.

Edited February 22, 2022 by GothMoth

[SupiDr]

Number of Chips 10000

Level up time 3-4

Bounty YES/NO NO

Format 10-25 R/A or 25-50 re-entry

Player per table 6 

Preferred start time CET 18:30-20:30

Latereg 1 hour

[Leo-Unibet]

On 2/22/2022 at 5:42 AM, GothMoth said:

I agree with you @startelver  . The only thing which I find really unnecesary here is the enourmous Number of Chips  - 10000. I still can't comprehend a tournament which starts with 333BB - I'd never preregister that on purpose, esp, with such rather long levels. The slow structure could be achieved by other ways!  The starting stack above, or even 200BB just make the first levels very boring, nitty and basically waiting for the nuts game. Just observe how the playerpool increases during the late registration in the Supernova for example and you'll get the whole picture and most importantly when the most of the players like to enter...

Those are my observations which I put emphasize on.This is because I'd be very grateful if @Leo-Unibet find a time to share his thoughts on this one, rather than to criticize @startelver.  As I've already mentioned, my own ideas are very similar, esp. in regards to freezeouts with larger buy-ins €10 - €100.

If the other regs like to discuss this particular "too-deep phenomenon", please share your thoughts.

Hey @GothMoth First of all, I never criticize any players for what they think is good or not good in preferred tournament format. All players have different favorite setups,  and I defenitelly understand and respect that, that's what I try to facilitate to some extent. We running like >80% of our offering with 200 or less BB-start, because it's what makes most sense. But we even have some tournament with more chips, the reason for that is that there are players out there who like to start out deepstacked = more than 200BB. We have thousands of different players every week, I can't make all happy about all tournament, but I can work with the tools I got... chips and minutes.
And sorry for the late replay, this one slipped through 😀            

[SupiDr]

Satellite for a common €100 ticket would be great. It could be used for Romsenter/Big Comet/Sunday Boba which tourneys have only 2/1/1 satellites which often don't reach the minimum players and cancelled.

[GothMoth]

I just expressed my own preferences @Leo-Unibet - no problem with the mega stacks, as long as there are enough people to start the tournament.

I'll repeat that so deep play is boring to many players and not very recreational friendly too, esp. in freezeouts - to lose 200-300BB and to bust after you waited all week for the Supernova for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTM0OVLbCNc

I have no problems personally, because register usually at 50-100BB, depending on the format and the levels length. If you take a statistical approach and look when is the peak of registrations, this will show the majority of players are reluctant to play so deep.

Another issue is with some MTTs after midnight which won't start from time to time: €5 Omaha Fireball(rarely) or €10 Fireball which start at the same time or even almost every night - €10 - Singularity. Despite the starting time being moved from :00 to prevent players from using the whole break these tournaments aren't running as it should, if running at all. €5 Asteroid(often) and €10 Zenith also sometimes lack the people to start. When the number was lowered by 1 player they were more regular. The overlay is not something unusual and even the decreased GTDs don't help, but might even make the prizes seem less lucrative to some...

I'm sorry for such constructive, but overall not very polite way of expressing my criticism. However, I like and want  to play here and some of the changes of which you are aware due to my stubborness and esp. the payout distribution made many regular winners and even ambasadors to leave when their ROI dropped like maybe the ROI of the slightly winning and the losing players which are ~80% if not more. Only the breakeven ones benefited according to some calculations we made with former reg and although I managed to maintain my winning status the variance is more severe and when I win I win big, but as you know the losng days are more common for MTT players. Before this I haven't had a losing month for 4 years as a tournament player with above ~20K games, but the last couple of years these months are happening even in a row!