Stubbe's Bundesliga Corner

[Livertool]

44 minutes ago, WuDu said:

Someone should tell these boomers that it's not the smartest idea to extend your coaches before a tournament.

I think it was good call. Now that they announced engagement for two more years Nagel is less likely to get any date calls for awhile and all the focus with nt. How bad can they play compared to recent past final tournys and even if play ain't top notch what would be alternative? Kloppo maybe but if he keeps his word he ain't available for at least a year.

Nourinho took a step closer to Bayern??? 🫠

[Livertool]

Neverkusen is getting whole new meaning, they just refuse to lose 😯

[WuDu]

50 minutes ago, Livertool said:

Neverkusen is getting whole new meaning, they just refuse to lose 😯

But in the end the Bundesliga is 4 weeks of summer football anyway. All 5 UCL spots are set in stone. So Stuttgart and Red Bull have nothing to play for anymore. Maybe end the season on a high note...

BVB, Bayern, Leverkusen now focus 100 % on Europe.

Freiburg, Augsburg, Hoffenheim will play Euroleague, Conference League or nothing at all next season. 

Bochum, Mainz, Union are fighting relegation. 

 

2nd Bundesliga is also almost decided. Well, well, well, Düsseldorf making moves...

[WuDu]

Lars Ricken (shot the famous goal in the 97 UCL final) is now the boss at the BVB when it comes to sport. That's a surprise, since current GM Kehl wanted that spot.

Mislintat is returning to the club to scout talents and develop the roster. Actually, I like these developments as it means that the club will hopefully focus more on developing players, as Ricken was head of the youth academy at the club and Mislintat has a eye for talent.

Now if we could only get rid of Edin... 

[Livertool]

Something to cheer up @WuDu 's day 🤣 

https://onefootball.com/en/news/ralf-rangnick-in-negotiations-with-bayern-munich-to-become-their-new-manager-39389403

[WuDu]

20 hours ago, Livertool said:

Something to cheer up @WuDu 's day 🤣 

https://onefootball.com/en/news/ralf-rangnick-in-negotiations-with-bayern-munich-to-become-their-new-manager-39389403

Let's be honest, the media has no clue, they're just trying to generate clicks. If it turns out to be Rangnick, my opinion is the same compared to when he joined ManU: He's not a coach for these clubs near the top.

 

[Livertool]

6 hours ago, WuDu said:

Let's be honest, the media has no clue, they're just trying to generate clicks. If it turns out to be Rangnick, my opinion is the same compared to when he joined ManU: He's not a coach for these clubs near the top.

 

Very well can be clickbaiting but then again if we look recent times decision making of Bayern it don't sound that strange. 

I would love Bayern to win cl, Tommy out and Ralf in. Improvement how?

In the end Tommy didn"t do exceptionally bad, they are heading for over 70 points, second in league and semis in cl. With similar points they have won titles earlier, those seasons just didn't have competition like this.

To be fair Ralf didn't fail totally either with ManU, other managers have done worse like Ten inch this season and Austria has played very well at least resultwise. But still i am amazed with their train of thought of how to run the club, if everything else than league title leads to manager being sacked (often middle of season) then i can't expect Ralf to last long. If they want long term manager that can develop team in semi peace, don't know if Ralf is right guy for that either.

Anyways, popcorn stuff, the crazier the better 😄

[WuDu]

[WuDu]

Buli-bros, I think I'm going to finish the Buli season a little earlier this year and skip the next 4 BVB Buli games:

Red Bull, Augsburg, Mainz and Darmstadt with nothing left to play for anymore. RB could be fun, but I don't like these 15:30 matches. Mainz is an 18:30 game, but yeah... 💤 I'm not expecting anything worth watching.

The UCL is what counts now:

25 °C next week, so this could be an electric atmosphere in Dortmund, especially with our old friend Dembele returning...

[Livertool]

Well well well, how bad is state of buli when Finnish 2nd division team has to start tweeting in Deutch to satisfy increased interest out of Germany? 😋 

 

[WuDu]

On 26/04/2024 at 08:16, WuDu said:

Buli-bros, I think I'm going to finish the Buli season a little earlier this year and skip the next 4 BVB Buli games... I'm not expecting anything worth watching.

Currently thinking about whether it makes sense to watch the highlights...

How Edin still has his job (finishing outside the regular UCL spots) and even gets support here is beyond me.

Leverkusen scoring in 90+6 to keep the unbeaten streak alive. 

[WuDu]

Bayern-Real later today and tomorrow we have BVB-PSG. 

Tomorrow is Labour Day in Germany with 26 ° C in Dortmund, so I'm expecting a great atmosphere:

• Fans had all day to drink
• Warm weather, more reason to drink
• Likely with a great choreography
• Last meaningful home game of the year
• Dembele coming back

First minutes will be great as long as Edin doesn't fuck it up. Maatsen is questionable, Malen likely out. So I'm expecting this lineup:

Kobel

Süle-Hummels-Schlotti-Ryerson

                       Can

                 Sabitzer      Brandt

Sancho                                 Adeyemi

                          Fülle

There might also be the chance that Adeyemi gets benched and someone like Reus plays.

Bayern is currently being sabotaged from within. This time it's Uli Honess' turn. First he went public stating that Rangnick is their #3 choice because Alonso and Nagelsmann declined.  Then he called out our boy Tommy T for not looking after the young players enough, which led to Tommy feeling insulted in post match interviews. Then Uli praised Xabi Alonso as a man of honour for not coming to Bayern and staying at Leverkusen. Rangnick is currently under contract with Austria.

 

[Livertool]

43 minutes ago, WuDu said:

Last meaningful home game of the year

Given up for next season already? Don't fall into despair yet, who knows maybe Lidl has big summer sales for players and managers.

[WuDu]

Funny how Bayern adds highly priced defenders every year only to be disappointed. That was pretty rough from Kim today.

[WuDu]

What a game! 

Augsburg +1 next Saturday sounds like a good bet now. No way in hell are the BVB players motivated for that game. Also, I'm expecting a lot of rotation.

[jerry]

[WuDu]

 

[WuDu]

[Livertool]

Going to be quite a snoozefest final if and when Real goes through. If Bayern surprises there might be some entertainment and irony of Tommy being kicked out months before season ends and them winning cl in the end would be icing on the cake. Also Jude's move to Real and BVB winning cl next season would be nice touch 😄

[jerry]

9 hours ago, Livertool said:

Going to be quite a snoozefest final if and when Real goes through. If Bayern surprises there might be some entertainment and irony of Tommy being kicked out months before season ends and them winning cl in the end would be icing on the cake. Also Jude's move to Real and BVB winning cl next season would be nice touch 😄

Exact same sentiment here, feel like it will be Real Leverkusen all over as both teams are on the same level as then. Leverkusen got some chances but it never felt like they were goin to win there.

I cant overstate how average that BVB side is. Its all about Terzic and how this team is absorbing the pressure. Have doubts if he is the one for top team, but he can make avg team very, very good [this is the problem Terzic vs BVB fans, they think they have great squad and he plays to the team strength which is not that high]

If we look at pesonals who can you even sell from yesterdays team and we are talking about freakin CL finalists? Whole backline was great with Hummels best and Ryerson also surprisingly good. But its more the Terzic's system than individual brilliance. Hummels is unsellable and Schlotter too goofy with ball at his feet for top team so that leaves making steady progress Ryerson and Maatsen who i thought was pretty average yesterday. He run and tracked a lot though. Sabitzer and Can nonexistent but sometimes its what you can expect ffrom def mids. They run a lot, they closed spaces, feel like Terzic talked to Can to not collect stupid yellows since he didnt have one since first leg with Atleti. All in all pretty good display and again both are unsellable. Sabitzer for Salzburg for 5mln maybe...

Then we have milfhunter who had one chance and proud of Manchester. Both average to bad. Sancho have one or two good showings but other than that was very average. Buying Sancho could be a disaster as he is virtually unsellable. Cant see any top team team taking a punt on him even if [big IF] he will return to playing as in his first stint in BVB. Lets say he will have good season, then zero intrest, then he is umotivated and playing playstation eating snickers  And i hear BVB could be interested in Greenwood just because the two are friends  Albanian prince always have that one or two good sprints in him but i dont think he will be sold for a lot of money. He offers zero in posession football and too little for top counter attaking team. BVB will be his biggest team.

Brands another disastrous showing. I dont know what gives but whenever i see him he is disinterested and autistic on the field. Sofascore gave him third rating, must be that amazing assist from corner 

Fullkrug unsellable but played pretty good yesterday but got no support. It really feels that in posession team like Bayern he could score a lot more goals. 

I would not call BVB making final s h i t housing in pure sense but Terzic is getting max from this team. More fancy plays, diffrent defensive setup and PSG is thrashing BVB yesterday. If people dont see it that way i dont know what to tell them. Yesterday it was 70-30 posession for PSG and other than final 10mins it didnt feel like PSG was suffocating BVB. Thats on Terzic.

Edited May 8 by jerry

[Livertool]

54 minutes ago, jerry said:

Have doubts if he is the one for top team, but he can make avg team very, very good

Like said before, play offs are totally different than league format, you don't have to have best team in long run but all about results in single matches and if you manage keep clean sheet in those that takes you far. BVB also had good luck with raffles and in matches, 4 posts for PSG yesterday. Few cms other way and result could be totally different. But that is just good and bad side of play offs, surprices more likely to come but do we have better team to advance is another question. Hence i like league football better.

But nothing away from BVB, they didn't allow any goals and final deserved. Only one nore step to go and they could be celebrating cl win which would be awesome on its own.

[WuDu]

1 hour ago, Livertool said:

 BVB also had good luck with raffles and in matches, 4 posts for PSG yesterday. Few cms other way and result could be totally different. But that is just good and bad side of play offs, surprices more likely to come but do we have better team to advance is another question. Hence i like league football better.

Oh no, It's not fair!!!!!! I demand judges like in figure skating, to determine the artistic impression of the respective teams!

Oh no, the BVB had an easy path. Playing the group of death and finishing first against PSG, Milan and Newcastle was such a lucky draw.... Playing PSG 4 times and only losing once due to a penalty is such a lucky draw. You act like we played Bergamo and Sturm Graz.

@jerry

 Sometimes you draw really good conclusions and see things nobody else expected. And sometimes you post stuff like today! You're as consistent as our Milfhunter.

0 goals conceded in 180 minutes vs Donatello, Dembele, Barcola, Kolo Muani, Goncalo Ramos. That was due to absolute elite performances by Hummels, Ryerson, Schlotti, Kobel and (in part) Maatsen. How anyone can consider Ryerson's defensive effort yesterday as "average" is beyond me. 

Sabitzer had another great game today, for the role he's playing in the team. Have you seen him in the 2nd game vs Atletico? You know the importance of "role" and "team" in a sport like football or basketball? 

Brandt also had a great game until he ran out of gas. Just look at Milfhunter's chance in the first half. PSG pressures, the BVB clears the ball, Sancho gets it to Brandt and instead of clearing it under pressure, Brandt finds Adeyemi for the counter attack. Sancho was excellent as well. His 1 on 1 threat on the outside is what forces opposing teams to provide him with extra attention.

BVB-Real or BVB-Bayern would be great entertainment. Edin vs Tommy in Marco Reus' final game for the BVB. 

[Livertool]

51 minutes ago, WuDu said:

no, It's not fair!!!!!! I demand judges like in figure skating, to determine the artistic impression of the respective teams!

Says dude who has shouted half season that Edin must be changed for not playing entertaining football worth BVB style 😄 But good that you have come to your senses.

55 minutes ago, WuDu said:

no, the BVB had an easy path. Playing the group of death and finishing first against PSG, Milan and Newcastle

Well, group of death was assumption. What we have learned since then it wasn't the case. PSG has been only team who has played well over 2 point average in league that ain't so good, Milan barely over but rest two behind. Otherwise PSV, Atletico and PSG were almost perfect draw luck imo.

1 hour ago, WuDu said:

BVB-Real or BVB-Bayern would be great entertainmen

What is the third option? 🤪 

 

[WuDu]

38 minutes ago, Livertool said:

Says dude who has shouted half season that Edin must be changed for not playing entertaining football worth BVB style 😄 But good that you have come to your senses.

How was I wrong in that regard? The BVB is in fifth place in the Buli. If Edin's masterplan was to set up a team that can match up against UCL clubs that are stronger on paper yet cannot control the game against weaker teams in the league, then I have to say "Sorry, Lord Edin, you're a tactical genius".

41 minutes ago, Livertool said:

Well, group of death was assumption. What we have learned since then it wasn't the case. PSG has been only team who has played well over 2 point average in league that ain't so good, Milan barely over but rest two behind. Otherwise PSV, Atletico and PSG were almost perfect draw luck imo.

Oh nooooo, the French champion didn't perform as well in their Mickey Mouse league as you expected. They must be bums. Also, PSV overperformed in their Mickey Mouse league, but they're bums as well. 

Shitty had freaking Copenhagen, Real needed the refs to get past Red Bull, Arsenal has performed much worse in the UCL than Atletico, but yeah, easy draw...

50 minutes ago, Livertool said:

What is the third option? 🤪 

I don't know? Love Island Suomi? Some re-run on LFC TV?  You'll find something to watch...

[jerry]

Fook me i just knew when Tuchel got off Kane, Sane, musiala, this will bite him in his ugly a s s. Why are you subbing your best players when overtime is even remotely possible. Just plain stupid.