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Your moans are  reasonable 😄 the AA hand with KK + K3 - I feel the heartbreak xD 

People like to fish some roulette with deck coming for them. In time, you will get back to your road. Maybe too many shots at NL50?(before) What do you think? 

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@Estzen I wouldn't say too many shots at 50NL but maybe not moving back down on time due to frustration instead of just moving down and grinding in out again till it sticks. I feel like the bad beats and bad runs don't affect me as much anymore as they used to as I have a bit of a more realistic view over variance now especially after the brutal one I went through a few months ago.

Losing a few hands during a session are fine and having a proper bankroll behind makes it easier to take and get over them as well.

It's always funny how people get angry/tilted when others play bad and get lucky but that's where the money comes from in the end so why be mad, just accept you lost the battle but will win the war against them 😀

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@Pionrjseen that video before, not sure if it was on here lol

Apart from it being a funny video, it isn't the exact reason why it doesn't affect me as much as it used to (and hoping it stays like that!), it's like I'm more focused on the actual hand rather than the hands I lost before etc. Just like playing a strategy game really and every hand is a different game.

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Literally getting pissed off again, what kind of bs is this actually I have to run bad all the bloody time. Bankroll 888 down to $950 and on Unibet back at €1,850.  

888 is just beyond believe, if I was a new player I would for sure say I'm getting scammed on that site and that they can see my cards or something. Since I started I'm down $13 from my actual play although I'm still up from the bonuses etc.

50NL on Unibet, yet another shambles, move up and never able to win, 5 all ins and lost 4 and tied one, 2x AK in to AA yet again !! AK in KK and 88 in to AK and then tied AK in to AJo when the board paired up to split the pot 🙄 Have games changed suddenly that AK is just a call pre and never a jam?? Just play AA and KK ok I got it.

Lets 3b and then just barrel it off... get snapcalled by ATo lol

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Let's 3b again and flop TP on flop so bet anyway, pick up equity on the turn so let's keep betting and we get there so we jam... wth is going on...

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Don't think I can win any fecking hand with AA or KK in a 3b or 4b pot ever... all in on the turn vs halfstack but ofc he has the nuts...
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Again a 3b pot I decided to barrel off... snapcalled by random crap again.

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BvB, I x/r flop, crap turn x/x and riv x/x again... giving up this combo I think... and then they hit the river...

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1st hand of the session, lets 3b K9s which you can do half the time, get insta jammed on lol

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Again these silly hands where I flop decent and board just runs out tits up.

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These weird things, can't remember pre flop exactly, 3b TT vs UTG reg, get 4b small I think, I call, call small flop cb although not happy ofc, then jams turn whilst I still have 108BB behind... wtf is that meant to be...

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Again 3b pot vs a reg... what is this, think I 3b then cb flop and x turn and get jammed on lol, similar board as above... am I missing something?

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2 next pics same hand. Somehow a 4b pot but can't remember action, then BB donks flop, MP raises, don't see any point in raising as I would just blow the BB out...

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But the money goes in anyway and I'm practically dead... can you believe it... 

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Just a semi tilt hand, open 88, SB calls, BB squeezes, ok I call, low board so just call it off, yup never see a bluff.

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And then you have some sponsored reg playing the pool for a few hours, stacks people left right and centre no bother... 

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Glad I won one hand vs him, I open, BTN calls, he squeezes, I call and so does BTN, flop goes x/x/x I think, then he bets turn big and I call, BTN folds and he jams riv easy call obv... guess his play is ok, lots of draws missed and he doesn't block any suit.

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Some more rant hands, and that will be the last post as tilt is back and just CBA anymore.

Open JJ, bet big on flop, get minraised, ok I call, call a turn bet and a river bet... nice how they always get there.

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Flop decent, turn the nuts, oh yeh countered on the river, nothing new there. But he had nothing anyway.

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Lets 3b and jup, half the table calls and same old same old, worst flops ever.

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Call QT, he bets pot on flop like wtf, should prob already fold but hey ho, I don't like money, then get 2p and he obv turns the nuts... tilt tilt tilt...

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When you 3b UTG and the guy barely ever played a hand... and he x/r the flop... was expecting AA tbh... 

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4b pot with KK, crap flop, decent turn ish, but then still gets there with a flush... fuck my life...

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3b, x/c the flop and call his jam on the turn... jup J on the river is exactly how it should go.

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Squeeze pot and jup, best flop ever yet again lol

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Lets 3b AA for once, aids board yet again and no they never show up with some weird KJ hand as they always flop the nuts... 

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3b JJ, aids flop, turn pretty decent but yeh river has to kill it again so can't even bet.

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Yeh seems like a good river again... usual crap.

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Open QJs, SB calls, I bet big on the flop and he calls, then he donks the turn, I raise he calls, I bet riv again and he just calls... I mean...

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Very next hand, I didn't rebuy in time and he opens BTN so I just shoved my hand, KK of course!

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These are meant to be regs and just don't understand what happens here, I open KK he calls in BB, I bet flop he calls and then instantly he donks turn, so quick it's like he uses some software or something, so bizarre. Can't remember if I called or not...

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Again a reg, I open BTN he calls, I get x/r on the flop which is already weird, he bombs turn and jams river... what does he even rep? K6/66 ? A6 wouldn't bet turn anymore...
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Some terrible played hands but I'm always up against the nuts for some reason... so yeh... stick it.

that's all folks GIF by Space Jam

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, P0kerM0nk said:

These weird things, can't remember pre flop exactly, 3b TT vs UTG reg, get 4b small I think, I call, call small flop cb although not happy ofc, then jams turn whilst I still have 108BB behind... wtf is that meant to be...

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Again 3b pot vs a reg... what is this, think I 3b then cb flop and x turn and get jammed on lol, similar board as above... am I missing something?

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Strange decisions by villain(s). I think it's not very good on double flush boards, when you price out flush draws. Maybe on rainbow unpaired boards it could make some sense. But especially in the second hand, when villain shouldn't have much KK, JJ or AK (and you might have some of these hands even though you the check turn), it just looks to me like a "please don't call me" bluff. Maybe once in a while they show up with 77 or something. Would be curious to know their holdings XD.

 

3 hours ago, P0kerM0nk said:

2 next pics same hand. Somehow a 4b pot but can't remember action, then BB donks flop, MP raises, don't see any point in raising as I would just blow the BB out...

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I wonder if you could fold KK here after BB jams. I think usually the villains will collectively show up with two of the following three hands: a set, a flush, or AsX. I think I would think about folding and then end up calling like you did 😅

 

2 hours ago, P0kerM0nk said:

These are meant to be regs and just don't understand what happens here, I open KK he calls in BB, I bet flop he calls and then instantly he donks turn, so quick it's like he uses some software or something, so bizarre. Can't remember if I called or not...

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The turn donk makes sense to me as an exploitative move against many of the regs who auto-cbet 100% range on many flops and therefore check way too many turns. It's kind of like a check-raise but you get to see the turn first, and villain probably has a lot of 9x that has an incentive to push action. IDK what this specific villain was thinking about but I could see myself maybe donking turn (probably for a smaller amount) in this situation.

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On 6/25/2022 at 12:37 PM, P0kerM0nk said:

Fancy spot next, UTG opens, MP calls, I squeeze and SB whale coldcalls and rest calls as well so we see a flop 4 way and the pot is 45BB already. Flop x through, I guess I could cb flop for 1/5 maybe having the Td but vs 3 it's prob a bit thin. Turn J pretty bad, very good chance one has a J and possibly still slowplaying a flush at this point. But whale bets out 1/2 and UTG and MP fold so at this point I'm not ready to fold yet lol. This is more about reads as he's a bit of the spazzy type of whale. Then at the river he bets out just under 1/3 which could still be a flush on a scary board now, or a 7, or another random pp. Can't see him having a J as he would jam that. Not folding for that 1/3 price and there we go 43o... nh.

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I think the turn J is maybe the best card in the deck apart from a T (less likely they have Jx which had you beat anyway, and a diamond has too many reverse imlied odds). Anyway looks WP to me.

 

On 6/25/2022 at 12:37 PM, P0kerM0nk said:

Another fancy spot BvB, can't remember exact preflop actions but went x/x to the riv where I then bet and he raised which didn't make sense to me so I re-raised and he folded anyway lol. He maybe knows I'm stabbing too much on the river when it x down or he raised some weird Jx hand? Having the T is good for blocking some str draws imo. Not a lot of people would x a flush till the river as most would bet their draw on the flop and if not bet the turn when they have the flush.

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Cool bluff! Villains river raise doesn't make much sense to me either (unless maybe some tight player who never bluffs and gets there with T9 specifically or some J7, J2 depending on preflop).

Just some thought from a spazzy cash fish 🔥

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RAKE 350, GET 35 cleared 2 days ago, asked my stats for the period of that ticket and no surprise I got hammered on small sample of 2,400 hands at 50NL at -17.5bb/100 which is no big deal as lost a few all ins.

Better are the 25NL stats, won €489.82 over 13,706 hands aka 14.3bb/100

So had to drop back down to stay with my bankroll management rules and win some more stacks at 25NL to complete that RAKE 350, GET 35, when I completed it the bankroll was just under 2k again and managed to get the 4k Bonus Points for the half way mark between loyalty lvl5 to 6. Sadly enough back to loyalty lvl 1 and start from scratch with the multiplier due to the reset and not reaching loyalty lvl6. (hopefully we get back there this quarter)

Yesterday I logged in and bankroll was just above 2k due to exchange rate so was allowed to play 50NL again lol. Better start this time so see if we can ride it out and stay more at 50NL but I'll see how the tables are and if there are not enough players or if the pool is terrible I just drop down to 25NL.

Working my way through a €50 playthrough bonus from the loyalty scheme and after that still have a RAKE 300, GET 30 to clear. And still 39,330 bonus points left.

And have yet to win anything from the 25th Anniversary flip tournaments.

888 poker is still the same, impossible to get the bankroll going, played 2 tables of SNAP one day, one table I ran up to 700BB and on the other I just kept losing pot after pot lol. Bankroll just above $900... 🤷‍♂️

Just posting some winning hands for a change:

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Think I squeezed then maybe called a 4b as the CO coldcalled it, flopped gin, and even AK went all in somewhere in the hand lol.

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3b UTG, bet flop and turn and got jammed on, was like hmm, called it off and ffs not again BUT saved by the river!

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iso limp with 2 callers I guess, then x it down to riv and face a shove 🥳

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...and my nuts were bigger than his.

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I'm in SB, MP reg opens, CO and BTN call, I just come along as they are both whale types, BB calls as well, MP reg! bets 1/3 in to 4 people with JJ lol, ok it's a good board for him but... only CO folds 😂 and then it gets x down and I weirdly enough I win the pot lol.

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I open CO, BTN and BB call, x to BTN who bets 6BB in to 8BB pot, BB folds and I call ,turn x/x so I bet 15BB in to 20BB on riv and get shoved on 🥳

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I open 98s, SB reg 3b, BB coldcalls so I come along, flop got potential but don't want to see big bets. SB x and BB bets 15% pot, weird spot and decided to call but expected a raise from SB a lot but he folded. Then face this turn bet very small again looking weak so lets put in a raise, and it worked. win7.png.720404ef3454b2fffb340139a07cbeb8.png


BvB, big pot flop, overbet turn... if he calls again I'm x/f river lol.

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BTN limps, I raise and BB coldcalls, BTN folds, I x flop intending a x/r but he shoves lol... what to do... insta checking previous hands as wasn't sure who this was...

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Saw some limps in previous hands so hmm... I'm a fish can't fold QQ... 

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Well... emoji says it all... think he had A9o...

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Open AK, get minraised by BB, I reraise he calls, I bet 1/3 on flop, he minraises lol, I just call, he bets 15BB on turn I call, he bets 24BB on riv with 28BB behind, I just shove, ok thanks...

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Open KQo UTG, cb small and get raised, easy call and we get there on turn, well tyvm 🥳

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Not folding 2nd nuts lol.

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Going to start keeping record of my all ins again, not to see how bad I run 😏 but actually wonder how many people actually still jam QQ. Unless it is a weird sample size, I have this inkling that people just got tighter for whatever reason. Seems I'm never up against QQ and a lot against AA and KK... and I can't even remember last time I had an all in when I had AA, very strange. Hope it's a sample size thing.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, P0kerM0nk said:

Yesterday I logged in and bankroll was just above 2k due to exchange rate so was allowed to play 50NL again lol.

Ha this is awesome the gods are shining on you, best of luck for the first few sessions, just play your regular game, you got this 😎

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28 minutes ago, P0kerM0nk said:

Going to start keeping record of my all ins again, not to see how bad I run 😏 but actually wonder how many people actually still jam QQ. Unless it is a weird sample size, I have this inkling that people just got tighter for whatever reason. 

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Obviously depends on the situation a bit, but I do more jamming than flatting vs 4bets with QQ.

Also might take a shot at 50NL soon.
I feel like 25NL has been really soft the last couple months.
GL and see you at the tables 🙂

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Well, 4 all ins today, 3 on 888 

AK-AA 0-1
QQ-AA 0-1
QQ-AA 0-1

And one on Unibet, QQ-AA 0-1

I mean, how stupid is this actually, am I just running like hell all the time or what?

BvB, standard BS...

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BB vs CO I could flat the 3b and would have gotten away from it on that flop lol.

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This was actually a stupid one, UTG vs SB but I 3b him few hands before and then he 3b me twice in a row after lol, so now I 3b, he 4b again... like I leveled myself in it... so yeh, call 4b and then fold that flop I guess... crap QQ

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SB 3b, I 4b he calls, he calls flop cb and turn x/x, he jams riv... guess I don't win vs much value... don't have a heart which is good I guess but lots of bluffs are around the Q and I block AQ if he turns that in to a bluff...

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SB vs CO... 4 handed, all in pre, CO opened, BTN fish called, I squeezed, faced a minraise, jammed it, bit deeper but would still go all in on that board I guess although not loving it...

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One hand I won, called a 3b pre OOP for once as they always fold vs 4bets, never get action with my AA very strange... managed to get the lot.

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Thoughts anyone?

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8 hours ago, P0kerM0nk said:

BvB, standard BS...

Did you really go allin on blindfight with full stack preflop with AKs? 😃 i mean i like to gamble too often but goddamn 😆

Not much to moarn about there really, the play goes straight to same category as playing 27os for whatever excuse 😄 (in the same situation)

Did it even once trigger any doubts about your hand strenght?  Cos that kinda gives away that for whatever reason it might have been, you were on a gamble/wishful flipping mode joyfully ramming stacks in for the fun of it 😄

I love that mode too 😎

 

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@Rushbie So you are always? calling a 4b with AK then and fold if you miss blind vs blind? Don't understand the 72o line sorry. AK is still a premium hand in my books.

Maybe your post actually proves my point that people are just nitty as hell nowadays and I should take my hands postflop unless I have AA or KK I guess.

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@RushbieGet off the booze son! 

Getting it in pre with AK (suited or not) for 100bb is super standard.
Versus a (tight) calling range you might be slightly behind, but the value mostly comes from getting villains to fold their 4bet bluffs. And yes people do 4bet bluff.
OOP we basicly never want to flat AK.
IP I do some flatting just to mix things up and protect my 4bet calling range.
Mostly depends on the villain though.

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1 hour ago, P0kerM0nk said:

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I'm trying to wrap my head around how this player in the HJ got into the pot with 27s 😂. My guess is that preflop went limp, raise, call. Then villain went all in after seeing the flop?

Edit: nevermind, you can see the "raise" and "call" text above the player names 🤔

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Went limp call, I bet flop and turn and then he donked the river lol, he’s an aggro fish so all weird lines and big bets etc had like AK 10x vs him where I raised his non limps but I got like the worst flops 9x  out of 10 where I had to x/f.
But when he donked I’m like well it’s like he has Jx that’s now a boat as how can you have quads and not raised the turn. So I raised and he jammed so can’t really fold KK here imo, what if he showed up with Jx that would be a crazy fold, wp I guess.

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Sometimes I play some 888 SNAP (ZOOM) during my lunch break for about 10-20min... as I did today...

Lost with AA in a 3b pot vs a flopped set to start with... then won some small pots here and there... till these 2 hands happened within 4 hands of each other.

UTG limps, I make it 5x he calls, I bet flop 1/2 and he raises, I re-raise and all goes in on the flop, and we win the flip.

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Again limp and I raise 4x and he re-raises 4x so easy call, flop the nuts and flop goes x/x, then he x turn again so time to start betting, bet 1/3 and he raises me again, call again as I'm IP anyway. Then he bets 1BB on the riv... wtf is that even so I shove which is only play here... bloody KK feck me... €124 pot 🙄

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888 all over, no movement on the bankroll what so ever... haven't won 2 hands in a row for a while now 😅

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On 7/3/2022 at 8:42 AM, Rushbie said:

Did you really go allin on blindfight with full stack preflop with AKs?

Yeahyeah, beers were included when thinking about submerging standard mttscenario to similar cash horrorscenario of egos 🤪 tryinna outbattle the shitenario by all means leads to nowhere but to a selfhating road. ofc if the bibble of math tells so, its always good to fall in love to pretty hands, and just go berzerk snd bonkers with it 😄

No calls, never fold! That's what success's all about!

Meah, anyway, beers and pride.

No matter how much bs i've said to ppl in the same pokertable, I'd be lying if really try to get ppl to go insane with aks. It's just poison.

Anyway, peace 😄

Not trying to piss on ppl or dehumane the strategies, imo the battle and defeat is often avoidable. It depends🙂 

You saw the opponent with your tells, went for it, and lost.

Bohoo, thats exactly you were asking for.

27os blindfight egobattle means to me same as any BB on a thrill, never let go, never call.. because?

Ah, the math. Holy excuse to lose against humans.

All good then. Cry justified. 🍻🙂

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Been a while since last update, trying to get some volume in but weather has been amazing here, especially last few days, kinda needing some rain tbh, pretty dry year again here at the NE coast of Scotland. Lots of people loving the nice weather but I find it quite worrying knowing climate change has a big part to play in this 😕

Poker, almost got through the €50 playthrough and then on to the RAKE, GET bonuses next. Bankroll dropped to €1.8k ish but back at €2k again just today. Bit on the fence with 50NL atm, think I'm going to keep going at 25NL till 2.5k at least and then mix 25/50NL with 2k as the bottom limit for 50NL.

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888 poker, bankroll just above €800, have nothing good to say about that crap site lol. I just can't manage to run any decent on 25NL SNAP.  

For one I get a lot of ridiculous run outs after flopping what is pretty much the nuts which then turns in to a pile of poo lol. And I'm getting destroyed in 3b/4b pots like there is no end to it.

And regs are so bloody nitty its insane, if I keep running like this I probably take my money off soon. 888 zero points from me 👎

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Don't have access to a solver atm and don't really have time for it anyway just now but I'll probably give GTO Wizard a go next time I pay for a sub.

This video is just the last one that came out on their YouTube channel and just a good reminder of some basics. Haven't had a good look at all their vids but seems like they have a few good ones on there.

 

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