Pionrj

Maybe @Jami-Unibet could give us some info? 

@Livertool Nope. Nothing. And nothing from last week either. 

1 minute ago, Livertool said:

Wrong, it was perfect way 😄

Tbh, surpriced it lasted that long, must have been running year or so

Over an year. Almost two I think. And it was just insane freeroll. Basically free money when half of the field was sitting out whole tournament and 30% didn't even know the rules of poker 😂

@Stubbe-UnibetIs it possible to put a an option to the client, that we could decline bonuses ourselves? Got again a RB boost, which is bigger than the last one. I didn't even try to clear and with my regular playing I'm now at 29% and there's two days left.

3 minutes ago, WuDu said:

Sure, I never contended that bookies can be beat. Most of the time only for selected leagues/events. However to be considered a "pro" (this term is completely watered down in betting/poker), you either have to be an expert in a selected field or you must have developed a model/system that gives you more accurate odds than the Asian bookies and the general public come up with.

The arbitrage-"pros" playing on bwin and coolbet to make a few sure cents betting on Japanese college volleyball for women are not really pros.

So we think about the same of this. I never said, that Arbitrage bettors are some kind of pros. I said that some pros bet also on arbitrages. It was only to show, that bookmakers makes mistakes(daily) and that's why it's possible to beat them. This was something Estzer said that is not possible in long run. Which is just bs. 

46 minutes ago, WuDu said:

Good for your friend, but that's not a typical arbitrage bet. He anticipated dropping odds and won, however for the time being he was risking a few thousand Euros. What if the info was wrong? A nice move, but far from being risk free.

No, I didn't even mean that it was an arbitrage. It was just another example, how you can beat bookmakers. Know and react faster.

49 minutes ago, WuDu said:

If some Ukranian decides to sit in a public library for most of the day, using his time to make a few cents betting on Brazilian women's basketball because he found an arbitrage opportunity, so be it. However I wouldn't call him a "pro"... 

Like I said, some of the Pros makes also Arbitrage bets. And that whole thing was not the point. It was only to so Estzen that those bookmakers counts odds wrong daily and that's how it's possible for the pros to make money in the long run. They just know some things better. Just for example, one of my friend bets NFL and is very deticated. Couple weeks ago he sent me a message, to make a bet fast because the odds are going to change very soon bc one teams QB got the covid. I was not fast enough, but he made a few k only by cashing out that bet 2 hours later.

56 minutes ago, WuDu said:

These arbitrage clowns are the betting version of freeroll hunters in poker.

How is that? I don't bet any Arbitrages, but many of the Pros do, because it's a 100% sure income. Just checked and the top arbitrage atm gives you a 12% win. It's not like the guys who live with betting make millions. No, they are like most of the poker grinders and make decent living. 

12 minutes ago, jerry said:

Tough one this. We dont worry with shortstack but those two even if they were little crazy earlier i could be much behind. If im chasing its only 5cards, and its REALLY optimistic assuming they dont have A or K. But im in little tilting mode, so my take is one guy chasing flushdraw, second KK maybe JJ. Do you check this guys?

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Little do i know was already behind THEN VERY MUCH BEHIND and then i sucked out 😂

But really is it call or fold?

 

Can't see where is the button, but you don't have a option to check there now. But it is an easy call. Nothing to even think about. If you ever fold this hand, you are loosing money. 

2 minutes ago, Estzen said:

You still havent grasped the 2nd part which was written by me with 3 lines.

I don't really see what is there to grasp about? Could you help me with that.

I didn't tell you that you are an idiot. I don't think that Merenitsu is an idiot. I think that you both are too proud to study when there's something you don't know and you keep just squeezing that shit between your hands tighter even when you should just let it go, wash your hands and find some new shit.

And you clearly don't know what is Arbitrage when we talk about betting.

I wish you a nice day too. Don't be offended by my words. They are just words.

5 minutes ago, Estzen said:

@Pionrj I dont consider small samplesizes much of beating. You do seems like. 

I didnt compare games I compared a mindset of overconfident and wishful-thinking side of brains. 

You didn't google that. 

Do you know what is Arbitrage?

1 minute ago, Estzen said:

@Pionrj - Merenitsu level . Ok thanks for the insult. Actually its you who doesnt understand what your talking about. The losing players are irrelevant for beating sports betting. Since you really are competing against odds that are laid out by proffessional collectives of booking side. And if you wont make enough correct bets that make you profit, you wont profit in the long run. The amount of losing players is totally a diffrent issue. But ofc you can keep believing what you want, some people apparently are sure of playng roulette "proffessionally" too. 

That's Merenitsu level too. You are comparing a -EV game to a skill game. 

Just make me (and yourself) a favour and Google Arbitrage betting odds. Open a few links and you might notice, that you can make money with betting even without any knowledge. Now a huge amount, but still profit. After that, just try to think, could it be possible to beat these bookmakers with some work, when you can beat them without any work. 

16 minutes ago, Wokeyedwill said:

Like I said. just says it how it is 💯🔛🔥 

Ps I'm not that bad 👀👀🤣🤣🤣

Didn't mean that you're a bad player. I just play way different style. At least the tourneys I've played with you at the same table. I play less hands and more aggressive when I play. And I think I'm pretty good on exploiting other players. 

If I remember right, you limp/flat alot. I limp/flat maybe 10% of the hands I play. And it's always only if I get to play the post flop from position or if the price is ridiculous from blinds. 

@WokeyedwillI really can not. I'm playing way different then you. I really never min cash anything. I'm either at the very top or very bottom. You would have to change everything 😅

32 minutes ago, Estzen said:

No Im not wrong, because people just telling their info in "google" are just opinions not facts. 

This is Merenitsu -level now. Bookers giving odds for Arbitrage every single day are only opinions? OK. Don't speak about logic, when your arguments are at this level. 

And like Wokeyed said, there's a lot of addicts put there loosing their money. That's what makes it possible for the pro's to make some money. You really don't seem to know what you are talking about. 

I think we could have a real pro and someone who probably knows the most of betting in whole damn world to answer us, how many pro's are there. If @Stubbe-Unibet or maybe @Jami-Unibet has JV's contact and would be so kind that either one of them could ask? 

27 minutes ago, Estzen said:

In reality - there isnt so much pro sportbettors.

In which reality? And how much is "so much"? 

27 minutes ago, Estzen said:

The thing is from time to time, these teams can be WRONG too. And some people could find these mistakes and use it for gain. But in that level it is an insane amount of work. We cannot talk about winnings runs for few months...

Here you are wrong. If you know how to use Google, you'll find a arbitrage for every single day. That alone proves that people counting the odds for bookmakers do humanly mistakes daily. And human definitely can beat human. 

@MerenitsuI really don't understand how you can be so far away from this world? It's a fact, that even in Finland there's thousands of pro bettors who do (only) that for living. Same as with poker. They know the percentage, they study and they execute. When I started to keep a decent score of my every bet 5,5 years ago, I've made 3% ROI with only betting. If I wouldn't do stupid bets when I'm drunk, that might be close to 6%. Before that I probably lost, because I didn't know or see the numbers. 

12 minutes ago, Merenitsu said:

This is the problem for many. What do you think you can earn from betting. I believe that you cannot make money on bets, so I rarely have a desire to win back.

Your belief here is very wrong. There's tens even hundreds of thousands people who earn money with betting and they do it professionally. Of course you don't believe it when you bet 1,01 odds and loose those every now and then. If you'd study this just a bit, you would know something instead of believing. 

Today is the day, when everyone drops out of the game. Except me. I'm picking Greuther. I don't really believe on their win, but this is easily the best chance they'll get a single win this year in the league.

11 minutes ago, Merenitsu said:

I certainly don't understand when people have accounts in other bookmakers

You really don't? I don't understand, who does sport betting only on one site. Why on earth would you ever give bookmakers the edge and loose 10-20% value by not selecting the highest odds available? Opening at least 5 different accounts is like the first thing you should ever do, if you want to be a winning bettor.

@Stubbe-UnibetI just made a quick test drive with four tables everything enabled and it seemed better. I'll try again later when there's more players, so I won't time out constantly.

13 minutes ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

@Pionrj can you check if this build is any better with the lag? https://www.dropbox.com/s/uyeerujehqd3z50/unibetpoker-3.12.9-signed.exe?dl=1

I'll try this tomorrow or Sunday. 

Was read in this post in grocery store and just started laughing out loud. No because of the beats you get. Because I feel like I've read this sentence at least ten times in the past year from your blog. 

1 hour ago, Merenitsu said:

I see no reason to play it anymore.

2 hours ago, SCOBY said:

@Stubbe-UnibetWhat is the reward of community chat? Now I entered the windows 10 destkop and noticed that there is chat on the community, a very good thing.And I notice that it is also on android. I didn't know about it. I thought it was a Freedom joke, but it's really true. 

However, as a question, did anyone claim the reward from the chat?🤑

I think the reward was for knocking Stubbe out from yesterday's tournament and claiming double bounty in that chat.