Pionrj

Unibet showing again how to run promotions. Yesterdays questions was cancelled because that Downhill competition was moved due to bad weather. There was a new question for today where the favorite won. So they decided that yesterdays question all of a sudden was valid, because there was a "small" surprise. "Unibet, from players to the owners -with any cost"

@SkilfulPoker I know a guy who played (2 weeks) from a country which was prohibited by Unibet and they country also had every kind of online gambling prohibited. This guy I know used VPN and never got any kind of problems. Like Stubbe said, just go for it. What's the worst that can happen? 

On 1/17/2022 at 1:37 PM, Stubbe-Unibet said:

Get into a 100x HexaPro game

Configurations                                                             Examples
Number of Chips                                                                       1500(50bb)
Level up time                                                                                5-8mins
Bounty YES/NO                                                                          Either way
Format Freeze or Re-entry (one or multi) or R/A         Unlimited re-entrys
Player per table 6 or 9                                                                   9
Buyin                                                                                             €5+
Preferred start time CET                                                         09:00-15:00

LATE REG                                                                              5 levels(30-60-90-120-150)

So basically just faster Wormhole. But something playable to the morning/early day schedule.

23 minutes ago, fornicator99 said:

I'm not sure I understand, how can slots be +EV? I remember you mentioned some promotions, but why would gambling companies have games that lose them money?

Easily. Almost every first deposit bonus is +ev. There's hundreds of casinos and there's daily offers where you get wager free freespins, reload bonuses or cash back. So, the slot is not +ev, but the promo/bonus makes it one. If you want to know more, just google it. 

@Leo-Unibet Is it possible to throw a couple more regular 50->250 qualifiers in there? Only two this week and the other one is even after the main event starts.

@Andy-Unibet I made a 10€ bet yesterday but didn't get a ticket. 

1 hour ago, Merenitsu said:

In any case, the game cash should be crossed out of the plan. It feels like some guys are playing in pairs. It won't help in tournaments.

Again? Do you even believe yourself that you can stop playing that PL4? How many times have you said that you'll stop it and just after few days you post pictures how you lost your bankroll there? 

On 1/17/2022 at 1:37 PM, Stubbe-Unibet said:

Get a royal flush (NLHE only)

On 1/18/2022 at 12:26 AM, P0kerM0nk said:

One for @Pionrj, whale CO limps, BTN iso's, I 3bet (yes I know ATo) and whale calls, BTN folds, nice flop... I bet he calls, turn T I'm like FFS not again this pish and turn goes x/x river bricks and I just ship it like 130% pot bet and he called, I had to think of you PionrJ and your advice lol 😎

LOL Calling that board is just crazy, but maybe that sizing made him pay? But yeah, you need only something like 1/40 to call you there with worse vs splitting, to make profit with those shoves/bets. These situations are way more common at PLO tables. People tend call with nut blocker+set combos way too much. Usually if you bet bigger with nuts, you'll get called more likely.

50 minutes ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

I think it'd be totally fair with some kind of action being taken in this case, depending on player behavior and rg risk 

Now I'm not totally sure what are you referring to? Unibet taking actions because of a thing told in a forum which happened about 10 years ago or the company originally giving that ban/time out because their question was somewhat stupid and was answered truthfully? 

43 minutes ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

I think you've misunderstood responsible gambling, if you think it's about big sums only.

I think that you misunderstood the whole point of my message, if this is what you think I'm thinking. 

9 minutes ago, Livertool said:

@Pionrj

You may not want to share these stories here. I did couple years ago about reckless youth and account was frozen until rg team called me. Big brother is watching 🤫

I hope that they have better things to do than frozing some marginal players account because he got a short ban to some other site years ago and told it in forum😅

4 minutes ago, Livertool said:

If you don´t want me to play more than certain amount, feel free to tell me so i won´t go above it and play at other sites were gambling still means gambling and not moral posing kumbayaa.

I need to tell one thing related to this about another betting site I use a lot. They send a survey every now and then which blocks your betting if you don't answer it. It's part of their own "responsible gambling program". These days I lie the answers. I once answered truthfully to it and they gave me a 6 months ban. The question which lead to that was "Have you ever lied to anyone how much you lost or won". I even emailed them after I got the ban and explained that what would you do if your girlfriend asks how much did you bet on Eurovision song contest and you know it's almost twice as much as her monthly salary? Didn't help.

29 minutes ago, Livertool said:

No but case ongoing with ecogra. If you want yours, i suggest to do the same.

I found this site by accident: https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints

I think I'll submit a complaint through them if Jami can't figure this out by the end of week. 

29 minutes ago, Livertool said:

That's a weird last hand. Did he shove the flop? 🤔

On 11/10/2021 at 3:25 PM, Jami-Unibet said:

It was not what I suspected, I'll raise a case and add you both to it. I'll check your contact history @Livertool so you don't need to send anything in.

Over two months now. Has anyone got any answers? @Livertool? 

7 hours ago, Livertool said:

get in there

Gratz! Did you take it down? 

@P0kerM0nk Even if you know that you should or would not get any value by betting there, you still loose value every time you don't raise it on the river. I mean, you have nuts!  

14 minutes ago, P0kerM0nk said:

he just calls with 55... I mean wtf how much of a nit are you? How the hell did he never bet or raise lol.

Wait a minute. You call this a nit? That it certainly is, but imagine call him a one and doing this yourself:

16 minutes ago, P0kerM0nk said:

Open QTo on BTN and BB calls, I big bet flop and he calls, I bet 1/2 on turn and get raised and I call, face a 60% bet on river and easy call, I actually just though we would split this 100% lol, strange line.

"Easy call". You have nuts there! Even if you think that it's split, why in earth would you ever call with nuts? In some live events at least you would get punished by floorman if you only call/check behind nuts.

On 1/3/2022 at 4:13 PM, Farseer said:

Made over 60k€ from casino and sportsbook stuff though (concentrated more on those, as they don't require as much concentration and effort).

Could you open up this a bit? Is it purely from +ev bonuses/campaigns? More interested of the betting stuff. Casino obv. has to be through bonuses 😅

I just got my own betting spreadsheets in order from last year and overall a nice 12,3% ROI, which is my best ever. About 2% comes from different bonuses. I had also two huge winning events (AO and Stockholm PGL Major) and those brought me over half of the winnings. I also lost almost the same amount during Euro2020. I was basically drunk over that whole event and made very few smart bets. I think all the bets I won was someone else's ideas from Twitter😂

3 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

very fair and nice guy! 

Fair maybe, but very rarely a nice guy in internet 😅

3 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

What evidence do you have that it can't be achieved? I think the key here is that the goal is to lower the revenue from harmful gambling as much as we possibly can. I'm not sure how that can ever be seen as a bad thing.

Not a bad thing, definitely the opposite. But only common sense should be enough to tell, that this is more polishing the brand than a thing to really achieve in real world. Addicts are addicts, because the can't and won't stop. I know it, because I'm one too. My gambling has not been a problem hardly ever, because I've never gambled money I could not afford to loose. 

3 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

"silly decisions with poker formats"

This we have gone through before and it's the one and same which is attached to the lying part. Changing 9-max bounties to 6-max, and then making up a reason which clearly was not true. When ALL the other sites are running mostly 8-9-max bounties, it simply can not be a wish of players to get only 6-max bounty tourneys. Or I would be really amazed if all the other sites has this wrong and Unibet(Leo) are the only ones who knows what players want. 

3 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

Feel free to link to the threads on here where you felt we lied to you!

One said above, the one other pretty clear one is @Jami-Unibet telling he's gonna handle something like the Level up -promo issue and never getting back to us without tagging. Ok, he had vacation which is a good reason for not to work, but it's been two months without any kind of response.

4 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

I don't know what happened on Twitter or with CS, but I can imagine they might have been a bit optimistic when communicating timeframes or such? Feel free to link to the threads on here where you felt we lied to you!

As for the RTP, I think I made it clear in the thread that I didn't see it coming 😅 I won't defend that decision as I don't have anything to do with it.

Twitter and CS basically has/had both the same problems, with people not really understanding what they are talking about. And somehow they have a need to give you an answer even tho they don't have one. And I've had problems with CS through whole my journey with Unibet. These days I don't even contact them, if I'm not super pissed off. I don't receive any of their emails, which even you've said that they've sent me. For some reason I got the Poker results immediately. And the RTP is what it is. Stupid decision  if you ask from players who understands what it really means. Unfortunately I think, that many does not.

4 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

I never said you were wrong about your experience with a competitor - that'd be me calling you a liar and I don't need to check the thread to know that never happened.

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I'm pretty sure who you are talking about and they make it atm much better. They give you whole month to hit your target and it's not 2-4x bigger than your biggest ever. It's about the same as your biggest ever. And they give you an heads up couple of days before it activates. For me it has been targeted to cash games only which is worse, but they don't push me to play more than I used to. -Pionrj

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That is just wrong. I mean, I can only judge it based on the 30-40 examples I have seen. 

 

the competitor in question often asks for 3-8x what's been raked recently. And yes, we're talking about the same site  -Stubbe

Maybe I just understand that wrong.

4 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

I replied in 20 minutes and issued the refund. Post doesn't look to be edited nor is there a deleted post, but it's back from the old platform, so I'm not 100% sure if it'd show. I didn't ask you for a screenshot but issued the compensation instantly. If you're talking about another post, feel free to share it here.

It's the same post, just didn't remember it correct. It was my second case back then with Hexas, not the first one. So it's few days later on same post. And I know that I'm having problems with my temper time to time and I usually understand that a few minutes after posting that something could have been said more nicely. That's why I don't represent any company here or do any kind of customer service 😄

I don't know if there was anything else to answer. This was too long message and I was just doing sports for four hours. I almost fell asleep when writing this. There's just so many small things going wrong at Unibet atm that I don't think it's worthy to support. 

7 minutes ago, Livertool said:

They have new strategy "Our journey towards zero (revenue)"  😄

It will probly pay of too when old customer base is replaced with new generation who don't have knowledge of better days in the past and therefore are fine with bad value for their money. 

That's just BS from start to finish. Setting a goal that will never be achieved on gambling business. And all these bad running campaigns, lowering RTPs or making silly decisions with poker formats are not even the worst thing. Worst thing is, that they're just lying across the field. Here, in CS and previously in Twitter. Ask something and you have maybe a 50% change to get an truthful answer. 

They started running this RB "not official promo". Where goals and prizes vary between. Giving some feedback made no difference. "Not progressive" meant kind of progressive. Stubbe telling my math is wrong, when his sample includes the one day I raked 10x+ more than an average day. And I understand that, kind of. The thing is, that if he would have taken any kind of average, he would have seen how bad his math was. And telling about other sites promos, which he read of forums. And I was wrong there too, as he said it. Even tho I took part on those promos. Which honestly was not the first time his only goal was just to make someone look stupid in here. When I first joined I was just super angry to CS, because the Hexas were buged. Stubbe first answer was, that the fault was mine. I posted screenshots and he just deleted his answer and refunded my BIN. 

I've said it before and I still think that they're behaviour here is just super bad for Unibet from time to time. It's decreased a lot, but still some days it looks like they're here just to mock customers. 

Besides all the sh1t in this rant, they do make some great work too. But "Hyvä kello kauas kuuluu, paha paljon kauemmaksi". Free translate: even if there's lots of good things, little bit of BS will cover it underneath it. 

And one thing I have to say was great move from Unibet. When they lowered those RTPs to slots I went to play to another site where I play also Poker. Was the first time I noticed that they give RB points straight to poker RB. 

On 12/16/2021 at 1:28 PM, Livertool said:

@Pionrj did you ever got yours?

No. Got nothing and @Jami-Unibet went quiet too. Basically stopped using Unibet. I feel like they are in some self destruction mode atm. Just compare it to other popular sites. There's simply nothing (excluding the lowest rake in NL4) why anyone should commit themselves here. I've played every product combined something like 50€ here during the last month or so. That's like 1/100 of what I used to before they(Leo) ruined last playable morning MTTs and then got the low RTP slots. Now they took away those betting freerolls too? I just can't see any improvements anywhere. Just cutting the value piece by piece. RIP. 

Super excited to see Rangnick to lead my favorite team for an easy 4-0 victory. Even though I'm a bit sceptic about this line-up.