07-05-2019 08:00 PM
@XY wrote:
@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:
@XY wrote:
I am afraid we will never know @psrquack .I asked the same question/s in the other thread.
But why is it you want to know this?
For the same reason company keep it in secret...
So because of dev resources and not wanting to engage in an endless discussion regarding details that don't matter?
07-05-2019 11:49 PM
A simple solution could be to simply tell what company delivering the software and what organisations it is that "monitored frequently by independent player protection and standards organisations".
Since it says that "This RNG is independently tested and approved by Technical Systems Testing, which is a certified company registered in Canada." Fore games and casino and TST doesnt seem to exist anymore (but from my understanding gone up in GLI?) It would make sence that GLI then also is the security controller of the poker rng and if so their testing procces is easely downloadeble from their website.
https://gaminglabs.com/getting-started/technical-specifications-for-rng-testing/
Regarding why people would like to know and why it make sence for companys to share their formula i guess this article from the dawn of internet is still valid to provide that explanation.
08-05-2019 12:09 AM
08-05-2019 12:34 AM
I think a reason is that it would make new players feel good and secure. Both new and regular players can feel angry and confused when they loose big spots and the less experience the player is the more likely it is that he/she dont understand how poker is a game of statistics and that variance is a fundamental part of it.
When he/she then try to understand how this could happen they find out that the cards are dealt by an RNG but when they cant find information about how the RNG work they get susicious and uncomferteble, woundering if they are getting cheated bcs in their heads it doesnt make sence that they lost AA vs K4o. They want to make sure that this game is as secure as the provider claims and not just another froud like their partner/mum/conspiration thererist neightboor claims.
Since unibet poker always claims to do everything for the benefit of the recreational players it do make sence to share information about the security of the product so the players can "investigate" for themselfes and see that it is secure and that they aint getting cheated. Then when they know that, they can keep playing the game and have fun.
08-05-2019 08:16 AM
08-05-2019 10:02 AM
@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:
I strongly disagree
So no, it doesn't make sense to post the details. All it'll do is waste time
Well said @Stubbe-Unibet !
08-05-2019 11:57 AM
Ray-Unibet and Jeppe-Unibet ,please close this thread...we conclude that RNG is RANDOM!
08-05-2019 06:27 PM
@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:There's nothing more to share than what was shared in 2015
"Our exact RNG is an implementation detail that we do not wish to share, but it is a cryptographically secure pseudo random number generator that passes the statistical tests in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestU01 . The RNG has also been verified by an outside company; eCogra ( https://www.ecogra.org), one of the largest and most recognized independent audit firm in the igaming industry, which continuously audits the software and RNG
In poker, entire deck is shuffled once before the hand starts, using a simple algorithm (Knuth Shuffle, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%E2%80%93Yates_shuffle ), that produces an unbiased shuffle, given that the RNG it relies on is unbiased."
I heard that eCogra was founded by two companies - Microgaming and 888.
Unibet was flagship room in Microgaming - long time.....
"Outside company" - means that Unibet is not assoсiated with eCogra (sponsorship and other)
As I right?
08-05-2019 06:41 PM
08-05-2019 07:02 PM
That was just a question. No teory, no conspirasy! Poker players are guided by the facts
Ty for answer