Argevolen
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@tara771 wrote:Why is the promo not available in Ukraine?
@Stubbe-Unibet Any comments?
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Disconnect will eat up all accumulated timebank?
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@tara771 wrote:Why is the promo not available in Ukraine?
Discrimination detected... Greta is already flying to Malta😠
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No backlight - bulb borned out!
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@Livertool wrote:
He/she probly got point there... idk but i've been told that we have better and wider basic educatiion in Europe than other parts of world 😏 Like in USA they concentrate more on what has happened in their country and what have they done rather seeing big picture. For the god sake, half of them don't even know where Europe is 🤣Not whole truth, just one example:
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@WuDu wrote:What did Eva Braun do wrong? She was a golddigger basically chilling on the Berghof all the time...❤️
OMG.... This is a joke! You mentioned all of Adolfs affections, but you forgot about Eve. She came to the forum and expressed her surprise
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@pinki wrote:@Argevolen don't laugh🤣 I will ask @Stubbe-Unibet to check the results for this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
I wonder how many results there will be :Wonder:
@WuDu 2010 and we have such things :Waterfall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_Ukraine
This is not a laugh....
Eva is very surprised what @WuDu did not include her in the list.
I am not a supporter of S.Bandera. 🤣 But you must check the results....This is a very useful actuvity:Thumbsup:
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Final table. 9-max, 70 entry. It is strange when the 9th and 7th plase receive the same prize.
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@Stubbe-Unibet(King of flips) 4 step prize - 1 euro Unibet Online series
The list of possible tournaments for this ticket is empty.
This ticket can be used as 1 euro HexaPro
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EDIT by @Stubbe-Unibet. Removed the content of this post as it contained a list of prohibited software on another network, which was causing confusion, as it was seen as list applicable to Unibet.
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@pinki wrote:@Argevolen i like vide-related comments so i have one for you :
Now I can see that we've fallen apart ,From the way that it used to be, yeah,No matter the distance, I want you to knowThat deep down inside of me
You are my fireThe one desire
You are (you are, you are, you are)
@pinkiIm sorry. But I already have a girlfriend:Rofl:
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@pinki wrote:
@Argevolen wrote:A piece of code can be a huge problem...
@Argevolen nothing stands in your way. Set up a company that will issue licenses in your country, then you will have insight into many things 🆒
I understand that you come from one of the countries of the 'Eastern Bloc', where trust in private business is at a low level of various reasons. I understand it a little bit :happy:
the times when three programmers created poker room and later they played with others seeing their cards in admin mode have passed:happy:
@pinkiI am from Ukraine. In my counry, as in many others, only the goverment has the right to issue licenses.
the times when three programmers created poker room and later they played with others seeing their cards in admin mode have passed
And what has changed? Did they find a fourth?
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@pinki wrote:@Argevolen and ? so you dont trust Relax?:happy: Licenses that interest you (poker, slots etc) are probably on their site.
Kindred Group -3%
Relax-?
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@pinki wrote:@Argevolen nice one 🤣 maybe better to learn how such generators are tested and checked today.
You probably think that several regular casino players are able to check the game. Ask Netent or Relax how they specify RTP for certain games. How many samples they usually use, in poker the situation is propably similar.
I think that even Relax would have no problem giving this piece of code and you could test it at home 🤣🤣🤣:Rofl
@pinkiYou cannot even imagine what i think and what i know:Smile:
A piece of code can be a huge problem...
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@FeelsBadMan wrote:@Argevolen They don't really have to prove anything to you or me, we have the freedom of not playing here if we don't trust them. Like for example if you are against anonymity then you should just not play on a site that is built around anonymity, plenty of non anonymous options around. I get it that it's not that easy to "have a choice" in some countries, since only a few sites might be licenced, that sucks, I'm in the same boat, but c'est la vie.
Where they must prove their integrity is to the regulators, if you don't trust multiple countries's regulators either then there's really not much more one can do to add legitimacy other than them giving access to every single player to their systems to conduct their own audit, which would be silly.
All that being said, I think they should have a standard message with all the links and relevant data and little explanation (about the rng, licencing authority, countries they have licence in and their licence numbers) neatly arranged in one place to just copy paste whenever someone has an inquiry about integrity. Just from a PR perspective this should probably be the standard reply, even though most of that info will be useless to the player asking and they won't look more into it / won't know how or what it means, it removes from the get go the assumption that anything is hidden and it gives the impression that the customer's inquiry is valued by the company even though all that is done is a simple copy paste. Sounds like good ROI 😏
@FeelsBadManI am for anonimity. Show me where I ever spoke out against anonymity? No need to attribute me the nightmares of @pinki. I do not ask for access to the system! I do not claim that Unibet rigged!
You can find all licenses in the user agriments. There you can read what Unibet is only responsible for the transfer of players funds.
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@FeelsBadMan wrote:@Argevolen You say business is not conducted on trust, but in reality everything works on trust, currency only has value based on trust, stocks as well, a lack of trust in them devalues them both, any transaction you make, any place you give information to, any purchase you make, it's all based on trust. Of course the more safety features are in place the more trust you can have in someone / something. Like with unibet, the RNG verifications, the licencing authorities, the fact that they operate legally in regulated countries that might do their own verifications, the common sense of they're not that stupid to risk a billion dollar business that actually cares about being in regulated markets, for maybe a few tens of thousands. All that adds to that trust relationship. Nothing will guarantee it 100%.
You haveing hand histories will add very little to that, not only will you have a very tiny sample size to verify compared to regulators that wouldn't have that issue (which again, you have to trust that every regulator isn't in cahoots with unibet or that they're actually doing their job), but also, people are very bad at spotting the nefarious stuff that's going on. Some sites have published their stats when it comes to banning people, and in general, the amount of bans that resulted out of people observing stuff out of the ordinary and reporting it, vs their own internal detection systems was sub 2%, and a lot of that 2% probably would have been detected anyway at some point. People just don't have the sample sizes and the attention to make a significant impact when compared to computer based checks.
That being said, I too want hand histories, for my own personal use, and I'm looking forward to it becoming a thing on unibet, at some point, hopefully. 😀
The poker room must prove its integrity.This is their direct interest. I just suggested options as regular player.
If the Unibet believes that reputational risks are enough- this is their right!
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@pinki wrote:@Argevolen wrote:
I wrote that your arguments are unconvincing and based on trust. Online Poker is a multi-million business. Business is not conducted on trust.
It doesnt metter what i or you believe.
Give experts and players the opportunity to check the work of your software (hand history). And everyone will draw conclusions himself.
If you have nothing to hide, be more open!
Hand history with nicknames is the most powerful tool for analyzing the honesty of room.
Post it with a delay of one year? Maybe two year?
My hand history for 2018 will be very useful for me to analyze my game.
By players to players?😃
@Argevolen couple questions:
1. you want to tell me that experts, regular players will be able to 'check' the software after 1-2 years? based on what number of samples? 1k, 10k, 100k, 100000k ? what other factors you will consider there % casino players in players pool also? how many times you lost with 2-4%? silly so silly.:Happyshy:
2. 'is most powerfull tool' - agree,, thats why Unibet target/actions is quite diffrent then STARS, PP. Many times have been mentioned. You building your image on honesty, and you want to use this anonymity against recreational players even more. Arguing it in a more specific way - are you from a family of politicians? :Wonder:
3. Hands history needs improvement,from what I know you can ask for it once a month. As @Stubbe-Unibet said, maybe we will see a better version when Unibet/Relax provide anonymity to players in this history. Don't try to do it with Unibet - stars, pp. ggpoker because anonymity is the most important factor that distinguishes the game here from other rooms. Do you understand it?
@pinki couple of answers:
1. Yes, they can! The time factor does not metter here. 30-40kk hands from 30-40 regulars allowable sampling for premilinary conclusions. There are many methods of analysis. The main thing to know where to look....
2. Old statistics without HUD in anonymous room - its just a tool for working on your game! (the expections is the high limits) Any player who uses HM and similar will confirm it to you.
3. No one encroaches on your anonymity:Rofl: Anonymous hand history is a great option!
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@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:
@Argevolen wrote:
@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:@prepa222, the answer by @MadAdo is good, and as he's saying, this is a known bug - sorry you experienced this one!
This is not your first post of this kind, so perhaps it's worth considering taking a small break from the game? If you don't enjoy playing or suspect the game is rigged, why put yourself through the pain of playing? You can exclude yourself temporarily or block poker directly on the site.
There're several threads on this topic, where it's explained in detail why it simply wouldn't make any sense for us not to do what you're suggesting. The main reasons being: 1. we'd lose our licenses and have to close the business, 2. Poker is just 3 % of the Unibet business.
@Stubbe-UnibetNot convincing arguments😏
When should we start worrying? When poker will become 15% of the bussines or 25% ?
When tens of millions are at stack it is worth more powerful arguments!
Sush as the:
1. RNG Certificate ( "Cigital" or similar)
2. Send the hand history once a year, 31 of December (all who wants to reсeive it)
In an anonimous room this will not harm recreational players.
I and many regulars will be happy to check their results and publish graphs:happyshy:
3.Provide full information about all inspections by all regulators and auditors.
These actions do not require large expenditures and efforts.
If you work honestly this will be benefit the room.
If you have something to hide, continue to feed players with fairy tales about 3%:geek:
Well, the RNG aspect is covered in other threads, as already mentioned. Just use the search function :)
And I have to disagree with you. If you believe the site is rigged, why would you believe in some certification provided by another company you probably don't trust? As I'm sure you know, not everyone changes alias, and some changes it very rarely, so hand histories with aliases is obviously not an option. Anonymized hand histories with only yourself identified is something I'd like to see in the future.
I really do believe common sense is the strongest argument here, and your argumentation/whataboutism with other scenarios doesn't make sense. Poker has been 2-3 % for many years. If you do believe we'd risk the entire business for a business vertical making up 3 %, when it ultimately doesn't matter for us who wins, as we get the rake anyway (obviously there're advantages of having a good ecology etc.), you probably shouldn't play poker :) Again, it's 3 % of the total business, but the impact of making a "RNG" that favors the worse players is a tiny fraction of that.
I hear what you're saying, I just think it's silly to say that common sense isn't strong enough of an argument :)
I wrote that your arguments are unconvincing and based on trust. Online Poker is a multi-million business. Business is not conducted on trust.
It doesnt metter what i or you believe.
Give experts and players the opportunity to check the work of your software (hand history). And everyone will draw conclusions himself.
If you have nothing to hide, be more open!
Hand history with nicknames is the most powerful tool for analyzing the honesty of room.
Post it with a delay of one year? Maybe two year?
My hand history for 2018 will be very useful for me to analyze my game.
By players to players?:Smile:
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@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:@prepa222, the answer by @MadAdo is good, and as he's saying, this is a known bug - sorry you experienced this one!
This is not your first post of this kind, so perhaps it's worth considering taking a small break from the game? If you don't enjoy playing or suspect the game is rigged, why put yourself through the pain of playing? You can exclude yourself temporarily or block poker directly on the site.
There're several threads on this topic, where it's explained in detail why it simply wouldn't make any sense for us not to do what you're suggesting. The main reasons being: 1. we'd lose our licenses and have to close the business, 2. Poker is just 3 % of the Unibet business.
@Stubbe-UnibetNot convincing arguments😏
When should we start worrying? When poker will become 15% of the bussines or 25% ?
When tens of millions are at stack it is worth more powerful arguments!
Sush as the:
1. RNG Certificate ( "Cigital" or similar)
2. Send the hand history once a year, 31 of December (all who wants to reсeive it)
In an anonimous room this will not harm recreational players.
I and many regulars will be happy to check their results and publish graphs:happyshy:
3.Provide full information about all inspections by all regulators and auditors.
These actions do not require large expenditures and efforts.
If you work honestly this will be benefit the room.
If you have something to hide, continue to feed players with fairy tales about 3%:geek:
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@Argevolen wrote:
@pinki wrote:@maruni @psrquack @Argevolen let's wait for other voices. Maybe Sunday 19-21 will be the best time :)
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@Argevolen wrote:
@pinki wrote:@maruni @psrquack @Argevolen let's wait for other voices. Maybe Sunday 19-21 will be the best time :)
Do not embarrass youself....
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