Pionrj

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That's quite clear. And I'm not being salty here. I was not even close to having good enough hand. I just feel that having 5th best hand at the table is not really worth a price. 

Unibet has tens or hundreds flip tournaments in a day. Some people register in those with their deposited money. Don't you think that this should be fair? If you loose to pair of fives with two pairs just because someone had a straight, it's kind of stupid.

And I brought this up only because I think it's clearly unfair. Not for me, because I don't loose anything to these tourneys. 

First of all, those are bad because I never win anything of them. Although I reg them only with free tickets or tickets from challenges etc.

Second of all, it's broken indeed. I won a 40cent ticket from Livertools freeroll. I was not surprised when I didn't win anything. But, I went to see hands which were dealt after I looked at the tournament lobby to see winners. 

Can someone explain in any logical way, how in earth is SCOBY the one to get the last cash from there?

@Stubbe-Unibet Here's one of those guys. Timed out with out time bank three times in and never sat out. 

@Livertool This is something that I've noticed too. I'm pretty sure that they just close the table for 20-30 seconds and then open it again. If this is what @Argevolen meant before, it's a real problem. Players stalling with out loosing their time bank should be against the rules too. But I hope, that Unibet will react to it if you just report these people. 

@Argevolen I play a lot of MTTs on many sites. On Unibet only a few every now and then. But I really don't get what is this exsessive time banking? Could you please explain me. It has to be something that happens only on Unibet. On other sites about 90% of short stack players stall close to bubble or a money jump. Basically this means that no one gets a real advantage of it. So it's just part of tournament poker. You have to deal with it. 

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@Argevolen wrote:

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Sounds like the Ratholing just hit you hard? Slowrolling or tanking might be annoying but widely used by MTT players on every server. Ratholing in other hand is blocked by majority of the Poker rooms. So I'd say that you have to come up with a better excuse.

There is a huge difference between:

- The technical blocking of the possibility of ratholing

- The possibility of getting your account banned at any time if your actions are perceived as ratholing.

I don't know of any poker rooms that take this approach to dealing with the issue of rotolining. Perhaps you can tell me at least one?

I haven't received an email about ratholing. I would never specifically do something like that in a regular game.

But when I'm wagering cash tickets  my actions could easily be perceived as ratholing.

Such a solution brings me more risks and inconvenience than benefit.

If anyone likes it, no problem. But then don't complain...

I'm not sure, what is the question you wanted an answer? But just for example, GG&PartyPoker has it on their rules, that players who do this will be first warned then banned. UPoker uses CT, which doesn't let winning players to leave the table with their stacks before the time has gone. Timer is different on different tables but usually it's something between 10-30 minutes.

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@Andy-Unibet wrote:

Hi @FreedoM,

How we would deal with players that ignore any warnings we give them would obviously be on a case by case basis and I hope we don't have to do it with any of the players that received this email or any other we send in future. Having said that, we also have to consider whether it is worth allowing a single player back when they've made the playing experience of many other customer worse in the past. We don't take account blocking/closure lightly and it is considered a last resort. 

As far as I'm concerned, if a player received a one month block and then came back and continued to persistently rathole then a 3 month, 6 month or 1 year block is not going to change their behaviour. The email sent out should be the trigger for these players to reflect on their behavior and decide if they want to change it or not.

Automatic ratholing prevention is on the development roadmap and will hopefully eliminate this issue in the future.

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Slowroll is also unethical behaviour. Etiquette and poker are not compatible at all! We are not in an English club for aristocrats.

Many annoying things are part of the players' strategy.  Constant use of timebank on the bubble in a tournament is also unethical behaviour.

Banning player accounts for one thing and turning a blind eye to everything else is also unethical behaviour.

Sounds like the Ratholing just hit you hard? Slowrolling or tanking might be annoying but widely used by MTT players on every server. Ratholing in other hand is blocked by majority of the Poker rooms. So I'd say that you have to come up with a better excuse.

Was about to come and whine about this too. I first thought that the surprise ticket for the flip tournament was accidentally spelled as a HexaPro ticket. 

It's no relevant but "Konsultti" at least is almost certainly Finnish. I'm too but haven't even thought of doing any shady stuff in these games. The gain is just not worth it.

But does Unibet change knowledge of these cheaters with other companies or is it illegal? I'm pretty sure that someone who cheats on some site, does it in other sites too. 

@SickOldIMLOF Oh. That sounds reasonable. 

@Andy-Unibet Do you have any idea how long has this been going on? I'm pretty sure that I've played in the same table with this "konsultti" months ago. Not that I think that there was anything shady then, but for transparency it would be nice to know how long people can keep on stealing before getting caught.

E. And another thing I was wondering while playing cash games for the moving up -campaign. How much of this happens there? There's few players who joins the table, posts one bb and leaves immediately. And this has happened more than once. The reason could be anything but it seems like they are trying to find the "right" table. It could also be that there's someone who they don't want to play with. Idk. 

@Andy-Unibet That's the game. You can check the other one too which started less than minute before this one. I was playing it aal the way. 

@Stubbe-Unibet I had this same ❤️♥️❤️ty bug with the first version of this new software and now it's back after the update. I opened two 5€ Hexapros at the same time. The other one started and other one just stayed on the waiting screen. Refund my 5€ and fix this. And before you start blaiming me again, tell me why I would time out a table while playing the other one. I noticed that my balance had gone for the second one too when I had HU on the other table. I did close the software and start again but it was too late. I had only 135 chips left and basically no chance to play it out. 

@FreedoM Thank you. For some reason, I don't have the gift box on my software anymore. 

Where can I find it? I just get a notification that "you're 42th atm" but I can't find the full keadervoard with points any where. 

@GhostyToasty They do, but this community is probably the slowest way to get anything happen. I've requested via twitter some markets before and I think only once they could not deliver. It's easier if they already have the match/tourney/what ever on the list so they need to add just some new options in there. 

I don't think there's a single browser anymore that supports Adobe Flash. So, there should not be any live games or services that requires it. There's simply nothing that you yourself can do if that roulette doesn't work without flash. 

@Stubbe-Unibet That's not what I meant. I'd rather see like 5-6 different tasks where you need to complete 3 to get the rewards. It's some where between stupid and ridiculous to demand NLH MTT player to play Cash PLO as long that they get 4 same suit hole cards. Just for example.

But I see that you were talking about challenges and not missions. With the current challenges you can't really count value at all for them. Completing a samll challenge takes 10-50 hands and that's what 0,8 cents (0,008€) in value. With 32 hands raked 32 cents in NL4, it's 4% RB.

That's true, that the rake is small in NL4 compared to other sites. But it's kind of like flexing with a win of the biggest p3nis in the microp3nis category. 

@justbreathe Well, you can't say that you played those hands too well. AQ hand was not a shove but it was super unlucky to loose it.

In the second hand, it was close but why did you bet when there's straight and flushes in play which you can't beat? There was even some fold eq after BIGBOSS raised it.

Third hand was played like donkey. Big 3-bet against 3 players who all call, should make you slow down. But NO! Of course one of them has to have a decent hand? Calabrus flopped a top pair and backdoor straight and a flush. Would you have folded? But you keep on fireing.. He/she turns a straight and a flush draw. A perfect or close to perfect card for him. You in stead, don't have a single diamond in your hand to block flushes and still you stab again with wheels. It's justice to get beaten by river, when you play like this.

GL to the upcoming games! 

@spid3rix How is there that much money in the table on NL25? 

@Stubbe-Unibet Where do you think, that the actual value is for the player if you "make" them play games which they'd normally not play

Are you gonna change this system, where you force players to sng/cash games etc. when no one really would'nt play all those without it being mandatory to gain this "huge value" of those prices?

You should probably look more for the hoghest rake back than for the lowest rake. Unibet is probably the least favorite platform for the cash games players because there's no rb at all. 

What comes to the bots, there's an interview where one of the software designers say, that there's no need to work to find bots when there's so small amount of games going on so no one would bother to code a bot to Relax Gamings software. The interview is couple years old, so that might have changed. 

Are you somewhere near to fixing this bug too? Signed in to HexaPro, but the game never launched. Timed out of course and I noticed after these three hands were gone that it had started. This is about 20th time this happens. I made a post of this and the replay window bug, but no one didn't give me any answers.

In that game I got in after closing the whole browser and logging in again. It has worked every time like that, but you Unibet seems to think that in poker it doesn't matter if someone looses 2-5bb because of some bug as long as they are able to play even part of the game. Really annoyed over this.

Here are a few things that annoyes me more than usually and it's not only ones or twice these things happen. I don't know if the reason is in me but probably it'll be if I ever get an answer.

At least 5-6 times in amonth now the replay screen has stopped working. Either it doesn't pop up when you push the play button or if you leave it open to avoid that happening, it stops showing table cards.

HexaPros and now tournaments bugges out. If you leave the lobby open and reg in to tournament which is starting later some times the table pops out normally but it stays on the "waiting the tournament to start" screen. On HexaPro the table doesn't ever even pop up. You just have to notice when it takes the buy-in from your balance. Both tables will start working tho if you shut it all off and log in again. And if you are lucky, you didn't time out pocket 10's like I did few minutes ago in a bounty tourney.