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@Andy-UnibetB. And if possible, it would be nice to see some "superqualifiers" from 10->250 and 50->1100. Like there's with some big ones now. Unlimited rebuy and add-on. If you put only one ticket gtd, I don't think there's a huge chance for overlay.

You mean like this? More than 150€ EV converted to 10€. And I don't even want to go through my yesterdays MTTs. My life is ruined. Thanks Unibet. Only thing that might keep me going is the fact that @Merenitsuruns even worse. (Should I say, that this was sarcasm?)

I didn't ay or mean that you should check those boards behind. But this line used here is definitely a loosing line in long run. Like said before, it was played totally wrong. He didn't make his hand look super strong at any point. And what you say in the end, that he should bet for protection. Which is fine, but betting too big or too small doesn't give you any protection. I might run this trough solver this weekend. Even tho this is not even a hand or a spot that is ever very useful to know. Loosing 300bb on a bluff vs bluff scenario doesn't happen that often.

Or worse. Like in this case. If you 3-bet bottom of your range, hit it perfectly, and you're in position, why would you ever want your villain to fold?

Of course you have to come up with a range to your villains which is based on the PF action too(and mostly). There's Zero value bets made on that hand. Zero. Neither one of them wanted the other one to call their bets/raises. And they for sure made it quite obvious along the way.

Does not really work like that. And Andys chart there is a bit nitty. Or at least I'd by heart that even T8o or T6s are +ev 3-bet hands there. If you take a look at vod for previous hands, Livertool just 3-bet folded PF in a multiway pot from CO. That alone widens his 3-bet bluff range, when you really should not have that much 3-bets which fold to 4-bet against EP from position 300bb deep.

Depends which card comes. But if you only call, I don't see any other than a straight or a flush card which could be a lead. But in those situation, if you would have only called neither one of you hit, it's not unusual to bluff even tho it's almost always a loosing play. But a call would have looked so strong there that I just can't think a way how he could have betted any river. And if the river is not A, I don't think you could bet either there. You have showdown value and all you can hope is that he draw to a flush or straight which he missed.

I want to disagree with this. Only hands which would have made full house on the turn and was unlikely on the PF was T9 and T6. 66, 99, and TT are all potential 3-bet hands pre-flop. But betting 75% on flop makes your hand look only weaker so, those was very unlikely there.

I don't know how much of a gambler are you, but paying 5103 for getting 40% chance to win 19326 is profitable for anyone in long run.

If you stop bluffing, you will stop winning.

https://clips.twitch.tv/SuccessfulCuriousAsparagusKappaRoss-0hmlJ6dWXAx0Z8QW Took a clip from the hand which explains somewhat his play there. Like you can see, the first reaction was calling. Decided to bluff and basically had to call the shove because of the pot odds.

Well, you got the one involved here too, but posting a hand in a public forum might get some action by time to time. And I'm not trying to say I know what Ian was thinking there. I don't think I would have made that raise on the turn when having most likely outs and the odds for calling that bet. If it was a freezeout tourney, I might have folded on turn. Open ended straight draw + flush draw.

@LivertoolBecause your play didn't look like a fullhouse or quads. Over pair should have a long tank and might fold to that bet. A shove there doesn't make any sence if you have a T in your hand. That's what he was trying to tell yiu he had when you told him that you don't have it. He was not pot commited before that check-raise. He was commited after that raise.

@Livertool Set is a bet there yes, but never that big. Pocket JJ-AA is a big raise to protect your hand from flush/straight draws. 78 was ruled out already with PF play. Because it was a bluff, which tried to get a fold from you. Your play didn't look like a fullhouse or quads. After he bluff raised he was basically commited when he needed only that 20% eq to call. Flush draw alone was enough. If you had KK with clubs it would have been the worst hand he could bump into.

@LivertoolOkay, maybe his c/x on turn was questionable BUT.. What are you trying to say you have with this bet? Sb opened 4x you 3-bet and sb calls. Everything goes as I think it should. But now you are betting 3/4 of pot? Doesn't look like a T, 99 or a straight. Easy call. And after that call, you can't ever say that he has not a T, 99 or straight. Here. He chekcs you bet BIG again, which looks less like a T, 99 or straight. He could fold, because I would guess over pairs at that spot. He decided to raise which basically made him pot commited when he needed only 33%(E. He needs only 20% here. I was looking at his stack first but he doesn't need to go all in.) to call your shove. And with the straight and flush draw he gets it against over pairs. Even against straight. But why would you have 3-betted 78 PF. So that's basically not an option. I'm no expert but this is how I see this situation.

@LivertoolCan't see the blinds PF action or anything but I don't see how his play was the bad one here when there's a flush draw and straight on the board and all you have is two over cards and backdoor straight draw.

Yeah. EEST is my TZ, not CEST.

@Merenitsu20:00 CEST(10 hours from now)

@MerenitsuThere was no tournament yesterday but all those tourneys are in the lobby already.

@IDHABPIt says that you get a ticket to Cash spin tournament as a reward. There's no such tournament yet in lobby so it will probably be made later.

@GLENGYLEThat's not always the case. I'm not telling here how to do this, to not give any ideas to people, but some players are really abusing it.

That is. It basically means 600 bets untill the end of year, if you average 5 units and 5% ROI.

GL. You need to have a huge hit rate to achieve that 10% with those odds. Even 5% seems hard but I assume those odds are in the very low end of your bets?

It's totally ok. Did he even have a K?

@LivertoolMaybe a small part of them. But it's only half of the problem. The other half was basically solved by new prices. Now they can't have that unfair advantage compared to the once who pay everything like they should.