MILLER453 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I WANT TO KNOW IF UNIBET HAS CERTIFICATE THAT ITS RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR IS 100 PERCENT RANDOM AND DOESNT IN ANYWAY MAKE PROFIT ON PLAYERS LOSSSES .I KNOW THAT CASINOS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS MONEY PROFIT BUT I THINK SOME CASINOS ARE IMMORAL AND ONCE U WITHDRAW THIER poker platform ULL ALWAYS LOSE EVEN IF U HAD ACES VS 72o.honestly i dont trust online poker and wish that someone explains to me and make me trust in the randomness of online poker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 @MILLER453 don't think you understand how a site makes money from poker. It doesn't matter to Unibet, if you win or lose - they'll win in any case, as you're paying rake. So Unibet always makes a profit on your loss, but so do they if you win - it doesn't matter to them. Unibet don't win anything by having a AMMLNG (Always Make Miller Lose Number Generator) instead of RNG :) And yes, of course the RNG is certified and improved :) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLER453 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 i mean if a person deposits 1000 euro a month and he s bad at poker if he keeps losing he ll stop playing poker and casinos lose .so if he plays vs someone who deposits only 30 euros a month to please the bad player and keep him depositing they make him win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Yes, Unibet has clairvoyant department too so they know how much each customer will deposit and for how long 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Never really know how to convince someone like you, but the client isn't even developed by Unibet :)Poker makes up 2 % - 2 % - of the revenue, so sure Unibet will risk their entire business for making a few extra pennies from the most insignificant product - not even saying your speculation makes sense :) Even if you don't believe the authorities and companies testing and approving the RNG, you must believe in common sense :) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 READINGYOURPOSTSWOULDBEMUCHEASIERIFYOUDECIDEDTOUSESOMEPUNCTUATIONANDWOULDNTWRITEINALLCAPS. 4 We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startelver Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 The big profit for Unibet is in the Casino games , not Poker. If you spin the slot machines you will always lose in the long run . Poker is only 2% of the profit they make so it makes no sense they would rig the RNG not to be 100% random .In Slot machines I believe it can be more difficult to understand the "randomness" of it all , who is winning the jackpot , and is it really random ? Difficult to prove , but in poker you can study it by playing 10000 hands and your pair AA will win against any other hand more than you will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dowelikestew Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Best thread ever with lots of shouting. 10/10 I would read again. 1 I am just a human, the same way a Great White Shark is just a fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4soul Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 if you want to do big things, just buy 2 big monitors with strong computer and play minimum 12 tables if you want to be profitable. the variation make you poor ;) only with volume you will defeat that RNG Get rich or try bluffin'! Follow my sessions on TWITCH CHANELL and INSTAGRAM! Need results? My 1st places!My BLOGS: 1.From 0€ to decent! , 2.BONUS Challenge done! , 3.Crumbled the BONUS100€! and 4.From 4€ to 4.444€!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish8one Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Hi,What do you think " believers ", out of 100 million life (true random) hands , lets say 25 mill would go showdown...How would look the winning percentage between worst and best starting hands...?50-50 ??Am i quessing correctly that the result would be 50-50, or...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish8one Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 Of the 103 million-plus hands analyzed, the outcome was determined without a showdown in 75.7% of the hands, meaning no player at the table was able to see anything other than his or her own hole cards and whatever community cards had been dealt. Of the remaining 24.3% of hands that went to showdown, only 50.3% of those hands were ultimately won by the player who had been dealt the best five-card hand. In other words, in only about 12% of the hands analyzed did the player who had been dealt the best five-card hand actually go to showdown and win. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 honestly...recently the rng on unibet is probably one of worse i ever seen ! so it goes like this..you putt money in ahead on flop/ you putt money in ahead on turn ! you lost your money on the river loll gotta putt some money and effort for developing a better RNG that simulates an authentic card deal's...you just can't always hit on the river with any 2 !just make it less obvious..its a good start lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesDean Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 @pittpitt wrote: honestly...recently the rng on unibet is probably one of worse i ever seen ! so it goes like this..you putt money in ahead on flop/ you putt money in ahead on turn ! you lost your money on the river loll gotta putt some money and effort for developing a better RNG that simulates an authentic card deal's...you just can't always hit on the river with any 2 !just make it less obvious..its a good start lolHitting a 2 outer on the river, happens ~ 1:20 times. Hitting a 2 outer on the river twice in a row, happens ~ 1:400 times. Hitting it three times in a row, happens ~ 1:8.000. That’s not crazy unlikely. Winning the lottery, happens once in several million attempts (depending on the lottery) – and still, people pull that miracle off.Just because something is unlikely to occur, it doesn’t mean, it’s never going to happen.For comparison: Sometimes, I like to play Hearthstone. It’s a trading card game with a lot of RNG effects. One time I got ridiculously unlucky, so I did the math. What happened to me, happens 1:1.000.000 attempts (numbers are a bit off, afair it was slightly more than a million).So we have Poker, the lottery and Hearthstone. All three have something in common: Miracles do happen. On a regular basis. If you are 95% to win, you will lose 5% of these situations in the long run. You could win 95 hands in a row to lose 5 in a row afterwards – or you win all 100 – or you win 80 and lose 20, because you got unlucky. It all evens out, but it takes time and a strong mindset to overcome the inevitable downfalls. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish8one Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 only 50.3% of those hands were ultimately won by the player who had been dealt the best five-card hand.EXPLAIN THIS SOMEBODY PLEASE !!BTW HITTING 2 OUTERS ON THE RIVER IS NOT 1:20...1:25 INSTEAD...TWICE IS NOT 1:400, 1:650 I THINK...BUT JUST PLEASE EXPLAIN MR MATH, THE RESULT OF THE ONE AND ONLY HAND HISTORY TEST EVER MADE ( NEVER WILL BE AGAIN ).HOW COULD ONLY EVERY SECOND TIME WON AT SHOWDOWN..?!? EVERY ( 25MIL.)HAND WAS 50-50 PREFLOP...???LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR1ZZL3R Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 @fish8one wrote: Of the 103 million-plus hands analyzed, the outcome was determined without a showdown in 75.7% of the hands, meaning no player at the table was able to see anything other than his or her own hole cards and whatever community cards had been dealt. Of the remaining 24.3% of hands that went to showdown, only 50.3% of those hands were ultimately won by the player who had been dealt the best five-card hand. In other words, in only about 12% of the hands analyzed did the player who had been dealt the best five-card hand actually go to showdown and win.Looking at the bare facts you would appear to be correct, but of those that didn't go to showdown how many were won by the best dealt hand. If there's no showdown it's not possible to say, that 75.7% could all have been won by the best dealt hand, so you're comparing a known % with an unknown %, not really possible.:wonder: "It turns out that 75% of all poker players think they play better than the other 75%." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish8one Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 jeez..okcould have won by the worst hands in all non-showdown too...LOLThe known fact is : 25MILL SHOWDOWN RESULT: 50-50 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!EXPLAIN how??????????? ONLY IF COINFLIPS WOULD BE ALL OF THEM ( IM SURE THAT˝S NOT DA CASE )SO HOW THAN...?EXPLAIN PLEASE THE " KNOWN " FACT EVERY 2ND SHOWDOWN HAND WON THE WORST HAND....!!!HOW??? PLEASE DO NOT COMPARE THIS FACT WITH ANYTHING ELSE ( AS I DID NOT DO TOO ) JUST EXPLAIN THE MATH IN THIS FACT (KNOWN) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish8one Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 https://www.pokernews.com/news/2009/03/cigital-study-players-skill-determines-holdem-outcome-1302.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesDean Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 @fish8one wrote: BTW HITTING 2 OUTERS ON THE RIVER IS NOT 1:20...1:25 INSTEAD...TWICE IS NOT 1:400, 1:650 I THINK... Well – if you insist on specific numbers, I must say, you are wrong, too. You have a 4,55% chance to hit one of 2 outs on the river. That means, the exact odds are 1:22 to hit the river once. It’s 1:484 to do it twice, and 1:10.648 to do it three times. So, yeah, you got me – to be honest, I was just lazy, though, because I knew it’s around 5% but I never bothered to do the exact math. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish8one Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 LOL u r right. I did not checked, and dunno why but i tought is round 4% :))...SO ANYWAY, CAN SOMEONE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY WAS THE RESULT 50-50 ( ROUGHLY ) ON THE SHOWDOWNS..??THX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR1ZZL3R Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 @fish8one Please stop typing in capitals, it's looked on as shouting whether intentional or not. I'm just going out for a while, but I love these discussions so will come back tomorrow. "It turns out that 75% of all poker players think they play better than the other 75%." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 @GamesDean wrote: @pittpitt wrote: honestly...recently the rng on unibet is probably one of worse i ever seen ! so it goes like this..you putt money in ahead on flop/ you putt money in ahead on turn ! you lost your money on the river loll gotta putt some money and effort for developing a better RNG that simulates an authentic card deal's...you just can't always hit on the river with any 2 !just make it less obvious..its a good start lolHitting a 2 outer on the river, happens ~ 1:20 times. Hitting a 2 outer on the river twice in a row, happens ~ 1:400 times. Hitting it three times in a row, happens ~ 1:8.000. That’s not crazy unlikely. Winning the lottery, happens once in several million attempts (depending on the lottery) – and still, people pull that miracle off.Just because something is unlikely to occur, it doesn’t mean, it’s never going to happen.For comparison: Sometimes, I like to play Hearthstone. It’s a trading card game with a lot of RNG effects. One time I got ridiculously unlucky, so I did the math. What happened to me, happens 1:1.000.000 attempts (numbers are a bit off, afair it was slightly more than a million).So we have Poker, the lottery and Hearthstone. All three have something in common: Miracles do happen. On a regular basis. If you are 95% to win, you will lose 5% of these situations in the long run. You could win 95 hands in a row to lose 5 in a row afterwards – or you win all 100 – or you win 80 and lose 20, because you got unlucky. It all evens out, but it takes time and a strong mindset to overcome the inevitable downfalls.well said good point but it doesn't change what i stated...I would be surprised if you played less then 5 times the # of online hand I played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesDean Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 @pittpitt wrote: well said good point but it doesn't change what i stated...I would be surprised if you played less then 5 times the # of online hand I played Sorry – what is your point then? That you have some ominous feeling that the Unibet RNG is treating you unfairly? Well – I can’t counter that point in any other way I did. You can’t counter feelings. Instead, I will say this: You shouldn’t be emotionally attached to your hands, to the 95% equity you had three times in a row etc. If you are not 100% to win, you are not entitled to have the pot. In fact, you are entitled to have 95% of the pot but since poker sites don’t pay you in equity shares, there always is a winner and a loser. In the long term, you will get your fair share – and if you make decisions that are more likely to win than to lose, and if you beat the rake at the same time, you will be a winning poker player. Plain and simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 @GamesDean wrote: @pittpitt wrote: well said good point but it doesn't change what i stated...I would be surprised if you played less then 5 times the # of online hand I played Sorry – what is your point then? That you have some ominous feeling that the Unibet RNG is treating you unfairly? Well – I can’t counter that point in any other way I did. You can’t counter feelings. Instead, I will say this: You shouldn’t be emotionally attached to your hands, to the 95% equity you had three times in a row etc. If you are not 100% to win, you are not entitled to have the pot. In fact, you are entitled to have 95% of the pot but since poker sites don’t pay you in equity shares, there always is a winner and a loser. In the long term, you will get your fair share – and if you make decisions that are more likely to win than to lose, and if you beat the rake at the same time, you will be a winning poker player. Plain and simple.I dont know what to respond to your POV buddy ,there's no point's to counter my statement is final loll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EatMoreNaga Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 @pittpitt wrote: honestly...recently the rng on unibet is probably one of worse i ever seen ! so it goes like this..you putt money in ahead on flop/ you putt money in ahead on turn ! you lost your money on the river loll gotta putt some money and effort for developing a better RNG that simulates an authentic card deal's...you just can't always hit on the river with any 2 !just make it less obvious..its a good start lolIf your outcome is -ev the your opponent must be running +ev. How about you analyze how he plays and start using the winning formula. Sounds like a good starting point would be to put money in when behind on the flop, behind on the turn and then just reap the profit on the river. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triceraatopp Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I always wounder what ahead on flop and turn really means in this posts? I have noticed that its quite common to overvalue your top pair/two pair hands and undervalue the opponents draw. This combined with a minbetting habit will cause you to get sucked out alot since you giving them the price to see 5 cards.. not saying thats the case here but its way more likely then that the rng was doing it. @pittpitt wrote: honestly...recently the rng on unibet is probably one of worse i ever seen ! so it goes like this..you putt money in ahead on flop/ you putt money in ahead on turn ! you lost your money on the river loll gotta putt some money and effort for developing a better RNG that simulates an authentic card deal's...you just can't always hit on the river with any 2 !just make it less obvious..its a good start lolIf your outcome is -ev the your opponent must be running +ev. How about you analyze how he plays and start using the winning formula. Sounds like a good starting point would be to put money in when behind on the flop, behind on the turn and then just reap the profit on the river. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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