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@MathrimC wrote:

Total profit is now at €540, ROI went up to 21,6%

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Meanwhile I'm on a bad run in the UK Tour qualifiers.


"Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The Pokergods gave and the Pokergods have taken away; may the name of the Pokergods be praised. But probably not, because the Pokergods are evil bastards."

 

That SNG ROI is incredible. Did you notice any difference in play due to the promo? I played a handful of 1 euro games and literally everyone was terrible. Including me.

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@MathrimC wrote:

Total profit is now at €540, ROI went up to 21,6%

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Meanwhile I'm on a bad run in the UK Tour qualifiers.


"Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked I will depart. The Pokergods gave and the Pokergods have taken away; may the name of the Pokergods be praised. But probably not, because the Pokergods are evil bastards."

 

That SNG ROI is incredible. Did you notice any difference in play due to the promo? I played a handful of 1 euro games and literally everyone was terrible. Including me.


The pride of man will be humbled and the loftiness of men will be abased. Variance kicked me in the face right after my last post and sent me on a €75 downswing.

I don't notice much difference in the €10 SNG crowd because of the promo. I think the players going for the low reward in the first week play lower stakes. Maybe in the last two weeks, when the reward is more significant for players who play a bit higher, more players will come and play some €10s.

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@MathrimC wrote:

The pride of man will be humbled and the loftiness of men will be abased. Variance kicked me in the face right after my last post and sent me on a €75 downswing.


Ugh! I saw you mention the downsw0ng in Iany's Twitch chatbox. Brutal way to end the week. (The downswing, not the stream!) #StupidGame

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First of all, thanks for the ICM calculators. The 5-max sng version has made the Moving On Up promo a lot more fun and educational! One day I ended up running scenarios for an hour after a little innocent 89s button open as the middle stack in a 1€ sng bubble. 😏

Last night I found a spot to test the v2 calculator I had copied to my Google drive.

I was the short stack facing a SB shove in a final table.

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The payouts:

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I thought it was a snap call but wanted to run it through the calculator to see how wide I could actually call there. 

Aaaand the calculator said it was a terrible call. :laugh:

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 call qq+? :Cheeky:

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I fixed the numbers so that SB doesn't shove but raises me all-in and I think I found a bug. Villain's remaining stack disappeared and the needed equity changed.

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I had to go ask from the ICMizer what was going on. Put the same information in, and it suggested it was a clear call.

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Please guys, point out if you notice I made a mistake somewhere! Or is this a wrong type of scenario for the calculator? Or have I just copied a bugged version?

:Geek:

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Awesome to hear you're actively using my sheet 😀

Thanks for the feedback. I think you've exposed two bugs in the sheet:

1) When everyone is already in the money, the script doesn't take into account the money everyone is guaranteed. In your example it thinks you're facing a €51 payjump, which is why you would need so much equity to call. I think if you substract 4th place money from all the payouts that the result will be correct.

2) When someone puts you all-in while leaving chips behind, the chips he leaves behind aren't taken into account in calculating his chipstack in the possible outcomes. This error will also be present in the first version of the sheet without script.

The second problem I'll fix this evening, the first one might have to wait until later this week.

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The past 50 SNGs have been a rocky road, and the latest 15 have been just brutal, I went on a 12 game losing streak. I'm down €88 since the last update. But downswings are part of the game. I've had my overly fair share of rungood up until now, so I should deal with the runbad too.

Total profit after 300 SNGs is now at €451,7, the ROI is still at an amazing 15,06%, so no reason to complain overall.

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There's also some good news: I've got 3rd place in today's community league tournament, good for €55,44 and some nice points for the classification. And my UK Tour runbad seems to have ended, ticket value is up to €151.

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Shame about the runbad in the SNGs. I can relate a bit, as I'm downswinging hard in the satties at the mo.
While playing about with one of your spreadsheets the other day, I suddenly remembered I'd downloaded the infamous Pushbot spreadsheet (from 2010) several years ago and had never used it, as I was playing/studying cashgames at the time. Amazingly, it is still available for download.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/23/small-stakes-mtt/updated-pushbot-spreadsheet-1000-post-thank-you-824728/

It doesn't provide precise ICM values like your sheets - and the built-in ranges aren't ideal - but you can input a number for "bubble factor" to help it calculate solid push/fold/reshove ranges based on pre-computed equities, so it's kind of like a cut-down version of SNG Wizard. It seems like a decent learning tool. (It's quite eye-opening to learn how wide you can/should 3-bet shove with 15bb, for example).

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@goingfor2nd wrote:

Do you by any chance have an excel spreadsheet available to input results? I'm thinking of giving HUSNG's a shot and I'd like to track progress/ROI, but I'm an idiot when it comes to excel...


I've generalised my sheet a bit so it might be useful for you or other people:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Q6EsZPBVZrWvAhxmswrdBZDps3aDgcNSTJrRbAmbCck

You can make a copy to your own google drive to use it. You need to fill in the green fields: buy-in, payouts (maximum 2), and then for each SNG you play fill in the date, starttime and your finishing place. If you want you can leave date and time empty, it only serves to generate the additional ROI graphs per weekday or timeinterval. All graphs update automatically every time you fill in a finishing place.

There's some example data in the sheet, you can delete it by deleting the content of the green cells. I would advice not touching any white cells, unless your goal is to modify some formula's.

If you play different stakes or formats, you should make a different sheet for each format, otherwise the ROI calculations are going to get messed up.

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Got in a nice volume this evening to reach the next 50 sng milestone before I leave for Brighton 😃

I'm up €54 compared to the previous update. I've been running good heads-up while running bad in bubble spots, so it's kind of all or nothing in the payouts. I didn't have a 2nd place in the last 44 SNGs.

Total profit at €505,87, ROI at 14,45%.

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Tomorrow I'm leaving for Brighton to play the UK Tour. I'm playing day 1a tomorrow evening, maybe some cashgames on Saturday, and the community freeroll and/or side event on Sunday. I might post some stack updates on my pokertwitter: https://twitter.com/mathrimc

 

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Last night I played day 1a of the Unibet UK Tour Brighton. As usual in the UK Tour, I had a very loose starting table, which caused a swingy chipstack, but by the first break after level 3 I ended up with about starting stack. I was a bit unlucky with loose players catching the nuts in hands against me, and had to make some tough but correct river folds. But those interesting hands are part of what makes poker fun for me.

After that things started going well and by the end of level 10 my stack was about 75K. Then came a disastrous 20 minutes in level 11 (blinds 800/1600).

- 2 limpers, I have AQo on the button and raise to 5K, the BB shoves for 15k, limpers fold, I call. BB has QJ and catches a J.

- Couple of hands later, I have QQ in the BB. UTG minraised, 2 callers, btn squeezes to 15K, I shove for about 50K, it folds to the btn who calls with AA. I had him covered and had 6BB left.

- On the button I get dealt QJo. 1 limper, I shove, BB calls with K3o and holds. GG

Visited the pier and walked through the center today, and spent a few hours at the bookstore. Now going back to the casino to see the creative ways in which hensie and nmpfan punt their stack (Kappa).

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Hehe. Don't remember exactly, but this is more or less how it went:

I had QsQh in sb, I 3bet or isolated pre and got called by 2 people. Flop came KsQcJs, I bet out around 2/3pot and got one caller. Turn was 9s, I shat my pants, checked, other guy bets half pot, I call. River 10s. I shat my pants again, bet out between 1/2 and 2/3rd pot and he tanks and folds an 8 high flush.

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Just arrived home from the UK Tour Brighton, and I had a great time. I was planning on playing a cashgame on Saturday, but ended up talking with all the familiar faces all day and listening to the bad beat stories of people busting day 1b. On Sunday, Unibet decided to drag my ugly face in front of the camera for some comments on my UK Tour experience, you can see the result at 1:24 

 (fun fact: when I started grinding SNGs two months ago, I still had all my hair). In late afternoon there was a fun hyperhyperturbo community game in which I finished 6th and I also played the €46 bounty side-event, where I saw David P make a sick river bluff with 86o in a 5-way 3bet pot. Didn't get much going myself in the bounty, and busted when I got KQo in the sb and got it all in against the A5o in the big blind. After that it was back to the bar for drinks and pokertalk. I also watched the final hands of the main event. There was quite some girl power in the event, 3 woman made the final table, and in general I think the amount of woman in the field was higher than in any other event I've played so far. None of them could take it down, but the victory went to one of the regular online qualifiers, which is also great. Back to the online grind now, and hopefully I can win myself a package for the next event in Glasgow.

 

 

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Sounds like you had a good time in Brighton, too bad you didnt get the chance to try again on day 1b.

Its nice to hear there are more women lately in tournaments :)

Good luck at the tables for your sng grind again :)

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It was so nice to meet you in Brighton, I also had a great time! Hopefully we see each other in Glasgow :) Sorry for the bad beat stories though ... ;) 

Really interesting to read about your grind and I hope the SNGs will continue to go well. 

Some questions about the SNGs: What opening raise size do you use? Does the fact that there is no ante in play (until level 10 ...) affect your size and does it affect your frequency for steals? 

 

Regards Henning/Raegar

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In the first two levels, I raise 2,5x from the button and 3x from the other positions. From the third level on I raise 2,5x from all positions. At level 40/80 I start raising 2x from all positions. I might adapt this depending on the table. If the table is tight, I might start raising smaller sooner. If the table has a lot of multi-way pots, I might raise bigger.

By the time the ante kicks in it's often shorthanded so the total amount of antes doesn't affect the pot much. It doesn't affect my size and whether I steal a lot or not depends more on if I'm the bigstack or not and the behaviour of the blinds. I also push/fold as if there were no antes.

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