1st week of Daily Specials - How did you like it?

[Stubbe-Unibet]

Would love to hear your feedback in this thread. Vote in the poll and if you've further feedback, just write below 🙂

[100HourChallenge]

1 hour ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

Would love to hear your feedback in this thread. Vote in the poll and if you've further feedback, just write below 🙂

To be critical, I guess the stellar sunday was very much like any other sunday 😉 

[FeelsBadMan]

A better color scheme for the multipliers in Hexapro Banzai would be great. In classic Hexapro, unibet is probably one of the best to easily differentiate on the table which multiplier you are currently playing. In Extreme however, most multipliers look the same, it's especially problematic on mobile. The red is also very attention grabbing, probably too attention grabbing to be used on 1x multipliers.

[100HourChallenge]

Just now, 100HourChallenge said:

To be critical, I guess the stellar sunday was very much like any other sunday 😉 

The other days were fun. Only remember to turn off all rebuy on one of the days, I thought that tourney was gonna last forever 😄 

[Wizard]

Feedback:

1) Shortstack master: I like it, I think 10-20bb is a good BI level. I like that there is no ratholing, this is crucial IMO. It seems to bring in a bunch of action PLO players from a variety of stakes and IMO was significantly more action than 50PLO. I think this is gonna be good both for PLO regs and for recreationals who want a spin. The prize for making the biggest stack is cool, I like that.

2) Banzai Bonanza: Really rate this, I like playing B20 so B50 is just bigger and better. IMO it was a bit reggier than B20 but IDK if that will continue in the future. Obviously thats normal when stakes increase eg. 100nl is tougher than 50NL. There were obviously rec players in the mix as well. The table background is sick, love it.

The leaderboard kind of surprised me because the points overrate lower stakes and underrate higher stakes vs the actual rake that will be paid. It doesn't really incentivise B20 players to play B50 because the points are the same. The leaderboard is great for encouraging people to play banzai, but doesn't encourage people to play B50.

3) Hexapro Extreme: I played a couple of these and the multipliers with 5b or 10b stacks seem a bit silly. Regular hexapros are already pretty fast, when its 10 or 5 blind starting stacks this seems kind of silly and feels like a huge rake trap. I think 96% of the games are 10BB or less starting stacks with 1 minute blinds which allows for very little play. I would play the 10 Euro games if there is a 125x+ multiplier due VERY soon but otherwise they are not for me.

For the 1 Euro BI level the rake won't matter, its gonna get plenty of rec players I'm sure. At higher stakes eg. 25+ (and maybe even the 10 Euro level) I think there might be an issue if people think its unbeatable. Even recreational players often balk at the idea of playing an event that they perceive to be completely unbeatable. There are recreational poker players who lose money at poker but don't play blackjack or craps because they know its -EV, and would avoid casinos with high rake because it takes too much money out of the game. Its also very hard to have sufficient liquidity to make games run at mid-higher stakes without regs, especially when you are splitting an existing game (hexapro) into two pools. I might be overthinking this though, maybe flocks of punters will hop in the mix. I would suggest lowering the rake but honestly it might be better for unibet if its just a low volume of  punters playing what is not far off an all in tournament and paying 7% rake per game.

I didn't play the other days, I'm not really a huge MTT player and I don't play 2 euro BI comps or 0.05/10 cash.

Some humble suggestions:

1) A widget in the options to allow people to give different games different table backgrounds / felt colours. For example, red felt on 100bb games and blue felt on banzai / shorstack master. This makes it less confusing playing a variety of games simultaneously, so people can play more games.

2) Split the banzai leaderboard in two and have a low (B1 and B5) and high (B20 and B50), or make it 100% proportional to points / rake. 

3) Try a higher stakes version of the bubble burster / wild wednesdays. IDK if it will be popular or not but its gotta be worth a shout.

4) IDK if this a thing already, but consider running cards up replays with commentary for the big Sunday tournaments. This happens in big live events and other sites and is quite popular. It doesn't need a big setup, just a hand replayer and someone competent to talk over it. You could even get the winner / runner up on to commentate.

GL boys and girls.

 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2022 by Wizard

[Stubbe-Unibet]

@Wizard really good feedback once again 🙂

• Banzai leaderboard. Agree some changes could be made here and one option would be a split between "low" and "high" stakes.
• Bubble Burster and Wild Wednesday. Already has a €10 buyin which had a lot of overlay. €5 could maybe be an option for Wild Wednesday but we'll have to see how the games are in the coming weeks.
• HexaPro Extreme. Game is definitely beatable (we ended up charging 0.05% rake Saturday, on Extreme 😉 ). This might be due to an incorrect setup though as rake should be around 3%. The swings will be huge and it isn't really meant as a game super attractive to grinders, at least not directly from just looking at the mechanics. It'll be attractive for other reasons: JP Mania with low rake (less than half rake of regular HP) and softer pool.

[FreedoM]

@Stubbe-UnibetCan people that didn't play the first week and plan to play this week still give input on games they play?

[Turbo_Boy]

i played only Hexas extreme event. i didnt like THAT fast structure at 1.5x multiplier. 5bb games  its literaly push-fold. Not that interesting as its pure button clicking without any thinking almost. For my taste if 1.5x would start with 10bb it would feel so much better.  Also some big blind bugs, but u know them already i think

[Stubbe-Unibet]

2 hours ago, FreedoM said:

@Stubbe-UnibetCan people that didn't play the first week and plan to play this week still give input on games they play?

Of course 🙂

1 hour ago, Turbo_Boy said:

i played only Hexas extreme event. i didnt like THAT fast structure at 1.5x multiplier. 5bb games  its literaly push-fold. Not that interesting as its pure button clicking without any thinking almost. For my taste if 1.5x would start with 10bb it would feel so much better.  Also some big blind bugs, but u know them already i think

Don't think I can say it better than I did above: "The swings will be huge and it isn't really meant as a game super attractive to grinders, at least not directly from just looking at the mechanics. It'll be attractive for other reasons: JP Mania with low rake (less than half rake of regular HP) and softer pool.". I of course understand you and others would a much prefer greater skill gap 😉 

[JokerJames95]

Enjoyed all the days I participated in.

I think with the cash game leaderboards it could be good to see the top 10 stacks rather than just the leader. 

With hexapro extreme would it be possible to include an optional countdown of games remaining on the tables?

[Wizard]

@Stubbe Some more thoughts.

1) There are a bunch of options with the banzai and I'm sure people will come up with even better ideas than me. I think some people might be more motivated if they could see the leaderboard much like in rake races or whatever. If I am 11th in a leaderboard and can rake a bit more to get the prize for 10th then I will put in the effort, if I have no clue where I am then I wont bother.

2) Idea: get a crawler/ticker to go on the mtt lobby / main lobby showing comps with overlay where reg closes soon (not with addon comps). People (especially regs) like overlay and are gonna snap hop in last minute if they know about the overlay. If I am 6 tabling 200nl I have no clue that a random 25 euro comp has -25% rake due to overlay and reg closes in 60 seconds, but if there is a popup then I will just hop in. This would save unibet unreal money each year.

3) You are right about the hexa extremes: its not aimed at grinders and it doesn't appeal to grinders and thats completely fine. I suspect we see someone in the poker diary / challenges area of the community post some results at some point which should be good fun (prepare for swings). 

4) This isn't relevant to the daily specials but the Hustler livestream last night with the Youtube / Twitch stars playing poker was immensely popular. I would recommend it, its hilarious. Ludwig's Youtube channel has the stream as a video and it has >1M views 12 hours later. Already I see random people online who have never played poker before talking about the stream. I genuinely think that this stream is probably the biggest advert for poker that has happened in the last year, bigger than the WSOP or anything Phil Hellmuth / Brad Owen could possibly do. As an example: my gf has no clue who Ivey or Hellmuth of Negreanu are, but she has heard of Ludwig and Botez and Ninja. Streams like this reach a completely different audience to traditional poker content which is exactly what poker needs. 

If a new player sees a stream about how pio wants to play flops as SB vs BU in 3b pots they are gonna understand nothing and be terrified that everyone online is some kind of rain man type genius who will instantly beat them. If they see half a dozen streamers laughing and bluffing with 72 then they are gonna think 'this seems fun, maybe I should have a go'.

Has Unibet ever considered running a stream / event with famous non poker pros?

Its goes without saying that Unibet's roster of elite live mtt players are well worth their cost, but its not the only way to promote the site.

Just my 0.02

Edited May 2, 2022 by Wizard

[Stubbe-Unibet]

Leaderboards. Agree with both of you and we are looking into improving this aspect (easier access to leaderboard and showing more players).

Extreme not appelaing to grinders at all. I disagree; when you have a game with negative rake (or "low enough" rake) it's obviously attractive to some grinders as well; the ones with the bankroll for the swings. I just said the mechanics with starting stack and speed as well as the swings aren't a natural fit and game not targeted at grinders.

JP counter at table. Will check what's doable. Could be difficult and guess it might have been investigated already in the past.

Hustler game with MrBeast, Ninja etc. I agree it's amazing for poker (I'm 4.5h into the video now, as I'm writing this). We used to run some stuff with streamers, main thing being the "Battle Royale" as part of Unibet Open (just google it). Not something we're planning to focus on at the moment - the Battle Royales I were never personally a fan of (at least not the way it was executed) and don't think the ROI was great. Thereby not said there isn't potential in microinfluencers or bigger streamers/content creators 🙂 

Overlay alert. Have discussed this one internally several times. If we decide to push MTT's more, I agree it'd be worth looking more into.

EDIT: Can confirm there was an issue with JP Mania setup Saturday which basically meant the long-term rake would be negative 😅 Should be sorted for the next one, don't worry 😉 

[Stubbe-Unibet]

On the Banzai topic, bigger changes are coming, but not in the next couple of releases:

NB these are very early mockups and final design could be very different. 

[SupiDr]

Prize distribution for the Hexa Extreme where can be found?🤓

[Groggy]

These daily specials have definitely renewed my interest in the site. Only played the Banzai and Hexapro extreme one so far (only just found out about it yesterday) and really enjoyed them. So rake in hexapro extreme works out at 3%? Will likely end up dabbling in all of them, omaha aside.

Just a general question, will the hexapro 1000x promotion ever make a return?  One of my favorite promotions on any site, ever.

[Groggy]

Also agree with the point made about more  distinct colours on the hexapro extreme games.

[comanimal]

2 hours ago, SupiDr said:

Prize distribution for the Hexa Extreme where can be found?🤓

https://cf-mt-cdn1.relaxg.com/chew/rules/com/en_GB/hexapro_extreme/

[Stubbe-Unibet]

2 hours ago, Groggy said:

These daily specials have definitely renewed my interest in the site. Only played the Banzai and Hexapro extreme one so far (only just found out about it yesterday) and really enjoyed them. So rake in hexapro extreme works out at 3%? Will likely end up dabbling in all of them, omaha aside.

Just a general question, will the hexapro 1000x promotion ever make a return?  One of my favorite promotions on any site, ever.

The rake will be around 3% when the boost is active. However, due to an issue the rake this and last week is less than 0% - don't worry, will be fixed next week 😉

1000x JP Mania. Yes, at some point I believe it will, but I'm personally a much bigger fan of 100/125x and the players seem to prefer it as well, looking at the numbers for previous promos 🙂

We're also working on timed guarantees (so counter counting down from 15 or 30 minutes instead of xxx games) but not much I can share on that at this stage 

And happy to hear that you like it! 

[Groggy]

7 hours ago, Stubbe-Unibet said:

The rake will be around 3% when the boost is active. However, due to an issue the rake this and last week is less than 0% - don't worry, will be fixed next week 😉

 

I hope not, got  destroyed today with negative rake!

Is there any way to see multiplier distribution, like in regular hexapros?

[Stubbe-Unibet]

7 hours ago, Groggy said:

I hope not, got  destroyed today with negative rake!

Is there any way to see multiplier distribution, like in regular hexapros?

It's in the link comaninal posted above https://cf-mt-cdn1.relaxg.com/chew/rules/com/en_GB/hexapro_extreme/

The swings are huge in this one 🙂

[Groggy]

Glad that I've seen that, didn't realise how common the 125x games were, 1 in every 500 games on average vs 1 in every 20,000 games for regular 100x. That actually makes the Saturday promotion much worse value for money then I thought as the jackpots aren't dropping significantly more often than usual and you bleed so quick if you aren't hitting the jackpot games. I would definitely have preferred it if it kept the same payout distribution as regular hexa's but a more turbo variant. Still if it works out at 3% rake on Saturday's I'm sure a profit margin can be eked out, especally with rakeback and it'll be more exciting for recs getting in the big games more often. 

Could I please have a link that shows the % rakeback at each tier.  

[Stubbe-Unibet]

1 hour ago, Groggy said:

Glad that I've seen that, didn't realise how common the 125x games were, 1 in every 500 games on average vs 1 in every 20,000 games for regular 100x. That actually makes the Saturday promotion much worse value for money then I thought as the jackpots aren't dropping significantly more often than usual and you bleed so quick if you aren't hitting the jackpot games. I would definitely have preferred it if it kept the same payout distribution as regular hexa's but a more turbo variant. Still if it works out at 3% rake on Saturday's I'm sure a profit margin can be eked out, especally with rakeback and it'll be more exciting for recs getting in the big games more often. 

Could I please have a link that shows the % rakeback at each tier.  

I mean, it was still running with negative rake 😄 And it'll be around 3% going forward, as you say - or, it actually looks like I might make it 2.5%. The regular jackpot hits are not "disabled" while the promo is running so don't be fooled by the value in this vs regular HexaPro where you wont have the natural hits play much of a role.

And yes, with EV rakeback, this should be pretty attractive, if you got the bankroll for it 😄 As for the rakeback, search for new loyalty on here and you should get a few tables and some graphs. If you tell me how much you expect to rake, I can tell you exactly how much RB it'll be.