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Thank you very much :). Yeah, there was no big hurry, I just wasn't sure if the question had been noticed.

@P0kerM0nkYeah probably won't be writing out hand histories very often in the future 🤣 I think my aggro image worked in my favour (as well as the price). Villain probably thought I was for sure bluffing and decided to stab the river small because of that. But I agree it's a pretty strange play, also the 1/3 pricing on the river in an SPR of 1 was pretty funny.

Is it possibly refundable @Stubbe-Unibet or someone :)? Or should I ask/post somewhere else with this sort of thing?

I think it's sometimes impossible to avoid tilt when the bankroll takes a dip or mental game is otherwise not good. The main thing is to take a break, go do something else enjoyable (e.g excersize, social stuff that gets rid of some of the frustration/negative energy) and then return fresh to smaller stakes when you are no longer tilted. So IMO the main thing is being able to stop playing when things are going too badly. You will always get new and new chances to reach the higher stakes if you are a good player, so really you aren't losing anything except a bit of time (and you are learning stuff on the way)!

Bankroll is now 3229.94€ Yesterday I played a quick session of NL 100€ where I lost some funny pots like QQ vs villains A8s all in preflop. In the end it was a loss of 200€ and I wasn't really feeling it, wasn't playing great either. Today evening I played a 4 hour session which ended up breakeven after a rollercoaster ride of a session. I started off by losing a lot of pots and was over 500€ in the hole. Here's a somewhat complete list of all the biggest ways I was losing hands: Trips vs full house, trips over trips, top two pair vs straight on dry board, QQ vs AA, AKs vs KK all in pre, and one big over-bet bluff with 59 on AJ93A that was called by A3 (probably wasn't the greatest bluff but at least my opponents know that I have a few screws loose and might call me light later :D), one bad call with two pair vs straight and generally just not making any hands. There was also a big hand that I lost with full house vs quads where I had 97s vs 33 on a runout of 37734. Villain tank check raised the river. It seems if players tank check raise rivers they have it often and when they snap raise it’s way more likely to be a bluff lol Later on in the session I started winning a bunch of hands and was able to get back to even, so that was nice! Some things I have noticed so far while playing the cash games: -The longer I spend on a table the higher my EV is, mostly because I get reads on the other players and other players start calling me lighter when they realize that I play pretty aggro -I need to tighten up preflop a bit, I will study some more cash game ranges -I need to polish my game in some bluff spots especially (but also other spots) -A lot of players way underbluff -Lots of ratholers play. It annoyes me quite a lot tbh Today I visited family, and life goals have been going reasonably well so far! Anxiety hasn't resurfaced since the last time. Although today I will end up going to sleep a little later than intended. I decided to post some hands, there were a lot of interesting hands to choose from so it was a bit hard to choose, so I decided to choose some weird/questionable ones :D. I typed the hand histories by hand, I wish I could copy it somehow on the browser client :p. Hand 1: Unibet NL 100 (0.50€, 1€ blinds) Button seemed like a splashy aggro player who did a lot of donkbetting on flops Preflop: BU RFI 2.79€, Hero in BB 3bets with [Q:Diamonds: A:Diamonds:] to 8.87€, BU calls 75.64€ is the effective stack before preflop action for the players in the hand. Flop [3:Diamonds: T:Spades: 9:Hearts:] (pot 18.24€): hero checks, BU bets 9.12 €, hero raises All in, BU calls Turn [3:Diamonds: T:Spades: 9:Hearts:] [6:Clubs:] (pot 151.78€): River [3:Diamonds: T:Spades: 9:Hearts:][6:Clubs:] [2:Clubs:] (pot 151.78€): BU shows [A:Hearts: 4:Hearts:] and hero wins the pot This was the biggest WTF hand in the session, what’s going on here? Villain had been betting flops almost always so I thought the over-bet jam would be profitable. Hand 2: Unibet NL 100 (0.50€, 1€ blinds) MP seemed like a decent standard multi-tabling reg. CO seemed like a decent player that was tightish preflop but not super tight, and pretty aggro post flop. Preflop: MP RFI 2€, CO 3bet to 10€, hero on BU with [A:Clubs: T:Clubs:] 4bet to 21.75€, MP folds, CO calls 175.70€ is the effective stack for hero and CO before preflop action. Flop [8:Spades: 9:Diamonds: 4:Clubs:] (pot 47.00€): CO checks, hero bets 11 €, CO raises to 34.50€, hero calls Turn [8:Spades: 9:Diamonds: 4:Clubs:] [J:Diamonds:] (pot 116€): CO bets 50€, hero raises to 119.45€ and is all in, CO calls River [8:Spades: 9:Diamonds: 4:Clubs:] [J:Diamonds:] [Q:Clubs:] (pot 354.90€): CO shows [Q:Hearts: Q:Diamonds:] and hero wins the pot I think I played this pretty badly arguably even though it won me a lot of money. CO had been raising a lot of flops, and I thought that there is some chance that they were bluffing this. On the flop I thought that I’m in position, the price is really cheap, I have two overs and a backdoor draw, and villain could easily be bluffing so I called. On the other hand villain wasn’t that aggro preflop and the SPR is quite small. On the turn I went with my read and additional equity and decided to punt it off. It was well played by villain IMO, what do you think of my spew here :p? Villain seemed understandably pretty tilty after this hand and I won more than another stack in later hands from them. Hand 3: Unibet NL 100 (0.50€, 1€ blinds) CO was a multi-tabling reg who had been 3betting a lot before this hand, but was pretty new to the tables so I didn’t have many reads. Preflop: Hero on MP RFI with [J:Clubs: J:Spades:] to 2€, CO 3bets to 9€, hero calls 103.59€ is the effective stack for hero and CO before preflop action. Flop [3:Hearts: 9:Diamonds: 4:Clubs:] (pot 19.50€): hero checks, CO bets 7 €, hero raises to 14€, CO calls Turn [3:Hearts: 9:Diamonds: 4:Clubs:] [6:Spades:] (pot 47.50€): hero bets 8.50€, CO calls River [3:Hearts: 9:Diamonds: 4:Clubs:] [6:Spades:] [8:Diamonds:] (pot 64.50€): hero checks, CO bets 20.00€, hero calls 20€ CO shows [K:Hearts: J:Hearts:] and hero wins the pot Unusual line with JJ featuring small bet/raise sizes. I could 4bet pre sometimes. I could raise flop bigger, but against a player who auto-cbets a ton of flops small sizes work quite well, and also confuse many players. I could also bet turn slightly bigger, but I think OOP it’s ok to bet small sometimes too on a dry runout like this. My line arguably looks a bit weak/bluffy and fishy. What do you think?

Yeah that's a good point about the narrow UTG ranges and I agree that pool underbluffs that spot (and underbluffs in general also). What I meant by the script is a script where you can copy paste a Unibet hand history into (manually), and then that script converts the hand history to a format that a more popular poker site uses (and then you could paste the output into e.g hand replayer, solver etc. whatever you want). I don't really see how that would be against the rules? Basically, it would just be a Unibet dedicated hand history converter script. I'm not talking about datamining/web scraping the Unibet hand histories on a large scale, that I think would be against the rules indeed.

9 hour session! Pretty epic grinding :D, you deserve the holiday that you are planning to take after this double volume grind.

Great point about nature @P0kerM0nk ! It's so true, hiking is one of my hobbies so I have noticed the effect myself.

Yeah I think the check makes sense (probably bet would be default), a general rule I have heard is that the higher the pocket pair, the more checkable it is (for example AA is the least vulnerable to overcards and also blocks some A high calling range). I didn't realize you could copy HH, maybe only on the downloadable client (or else I'm an idiot and haven't found it yet :p)? Hopefully that sort of functionality comes soon to the browser client too. It would def be possible to create some sort of script that runs through the Unibet HH and converts it to a popular format (e.g stars format) that is recognized by all converters. Haha was me then in the KK vs QQ, yeah K22 sounds familiar, though not sure of it all came on the flop. I think you still had runner runner spade equity on the flop but I might remember wrong also. That hand was a bit of a setup admittedly, next time maybe you will manage to stack me :p Yeah I think timing tells might be one of my bigger leaks. Especially with 4 tables I have usually decided what I'm going to do on most tables before the action is on me, so I tend to act pretty quick, unless there is a lot going on on other tables. Of course it's still easier to act fast with very clear decisions like with the KK. I would 4bet bluff sometimes, I 4 bet AQo once during the same session. But yeah I have a lot of AA, KK, QQ, AK there, maybe some AQo or A5s type hands as bluffs ocasionally (or wider vs aggro 3bettors, I 4bet jammed 77 for value in yesterdays session vs an aggro maniac 50 bb shortstacker, though I ran into 99 that time lol).

Interesting turn check, but I guess it's ok. I would guess yeah A2s, A3s (if villain calls those pre), AK (if villain is a nit pre), KQs maybe (if V makes loosish call OTF) or a backdoored flush with Ax of spades. Edit: I'm not sure if I would call river, it depends on my reads on villain mostly imo. With no reads I probably fold it. There are not many natural bluffs so villain has to be quite good/creative to pull it off. How did you get the hand history, or you wrote it by hand? Lol I won one hand where I 4 bet KK, I'm not sure anymore what my position was, I just remember villain was on the other side of the table. I called a jam from villain who had QQ and I hit a K on some street. Probably it was not me vs you but I guess it's not impossible :p

Bankroll is now 3430.45 € Some context for yesterdays post of frustration: I had some sort of anxiety attack while playing poker. The weird thing about anxiety is it makes your mind completely blank, it's very hard to concentrate and impossible to play good poker. Also when it hits I want to immediately stop playing and if it's an SnG this can mean (and usually does mean) punting off stacks. When you have a burst of anxiety it's possible to forget completely trivial things, like part of the number code for bike sharing that you have been using almost every day for the past month (real example). It sounds ridiculous, and it's almost scary how stupid anxiety can make you be (temporarily). Probably nobody could care less anbout the anxiety but it gives some context to yesterdays post. After calming down a bit, I stupidly returned to playing poker again that evening (25€ 5 mans, HU SnG). At first I was playing ok, but then the anxiety returned and I had to stop playing again. I was also running bad, and my bankroll went down to about 3150€. Earlier today I tried playing some 25€ HU SnG, but had some connection issues and I lost 75€ because of that. Don't know if I'm ever getting that back lol. My bankroll went down to about 3075€ from that, though I was able to win a bit back when the connection issues ended and I played some more 25€ HU SnG. Well, today I was feeling better, and I also went jogging with friends. It's remarkable how well excersize can calm the nerves, it's almost like natural medication. After that I was feeling my normal sharp and happy self and decided to play 100€ cash. I played for about 3 hours and I made a decent profit of a little over 300€ to get to where I am now. Given that anxiety is still an issue sometimes, I'm going to try and live my life in a way that minimizes the risk of getting symptoms, here are my goals: -No alcohol at all, ever, at least until New Years eve -Steady sleep schedule, I will try and stop doing any sort of work or hobbies around 2 am every day and start getting ready to sleep. Only exception is social situations -Plan out all my meals for the day in the morning, so I don't need to think about it later. I have heard low blood sugar can trigger anxiety... -Vigorous excersize, every day when possible, no exceptions unless I'm really tired -Some other short term goals regarding studies and social life Also I will try to force myself to take a break from poker whenever my mental health goes down the drain. Also given that I'm playing highish stakes nowadays and my swings are larger than the price of a decent used computer, I will probably get a Windows poker laptop for cash games and 5 man SnG, it can't really be too bad of an investment?

In villains shoes in the 5x quads hand I definately don't expect you to bet 22, I'm not sure what you would be trying to get called by, ace high? Seems unlikely in a 3 way pot but if you have 2 stations playing against you then why not :p. Even if you bet such hands though, I wouldn't expect you to call most of them against a shove, I think shoves look really strong and get called by 5x over 50% of the time. Maybe if villain has the image of a maniac they can get called really wide. In the 66 hand, I think a passive player would fold many draws vs a 3bet OTT anyway, so it's not much more value lost than if they check back river. I think someone active enough to bluff 4 way might aocasionally bluff the river too if you just call. And if they do make their flush on the river? Well, then you can be really happy :D. But yeah against loose passive opponents I guess the turn 3bet might be better. Yeah, I'm far from a GTO expert too, I've learned some things from solver explained videos on Youtube (Finding equilibrium, Alvin teaches poker, Bluff the spot is pretty good too) and by getting "inspiration" or trying to find patterns from some of the Pluribus hand compilations on Youtube where it playes really interesting lines. Like this one for example: or this one, like the hand at 2:06 where it flats QQ preflop and also on the flop to set the trap and backraise:

Well done on the profit! Some interesting hands here. That first reg seems a bit insane, quite fun :D. That's a pretty cool just call from the "nit", I think I like it actually because when 2 players call on a flop like that, it's very likely that one has a 5 (instead of two pocket pairs). Especially you in the BB probably have a decent amount of 5x compared to pocket pairs. You probably would 3bet TT+ or JJ+ preflop so 77-99/TT is only about 18-24 pocket pairs which I'm not sure you even bet OTR given that the other players might not call many worse hands, and then you have something like A5s,K5s,Q5s,65s,75s,85s,54s, A5o, K5o so 10-15ish combos of quads that you always want to get money in with. Also CO can have some 5x. Reminds me of a recent HU SnG hand where I limped about 15 BB effective with JJ on the button. I cbet a flop texture of 333 and a tight villain calls. I check back turn which was a 6 or something. River is an A if I remeber correctly. Villain checks river and I tank check back the JJ, villain revelas T3o 🤣. Last hand I don't like 3betting turn, I think you block most value raises (given that the pot is 4 way) with the quads, it's at least very likely that the raise is a bluff, or even if it's not they might put you on a 6 and fold something like AA. You might get some value from 78s though but I would let villain hang themselves. Take the analysis with a grain of salt I don't play that much cash :D

Ok, I did some testing. I decided to disable adblock, incase it had an effect. Unibet started working. Then I enabled adblock again, Unibet was still working even after re-enabling adblock, so I don't think it had an effect. Let me know if you want me to paste console screenshots from what the console looked like when Unibet was working again

Hey! I registered for 3 25€ HU SnG just now. The client then said "disconnect detected" so I attempted to cancel all the registrations. Seems that I was seated for all 3 SnG eventually, despite the client detecting the disconnect. I guess my multiple registration cancellation attempts didn't get through to the client, and I was never able to actually play these 3 SnGs even though I was charged the 75€. Here are the console logs: I'm not sure if it is a bug or if it is some sort of problem on my end. I notice that it says that some trackers have been blocked, however I haven't changed any browser settings recently and it has worked before. Is the 75€ refundable? Feel free to move this to the bug report section if you feel it falls under that category.

Good start for the upcoming upswing :D. I think I recognize that player just from the giraffe avatar haha. That player has been on almost every table that I have been on.

Good luck! I played against "notgreat" on many tables yesterday. I was using the "TorchDaChips" alias if you remember it.

Bankroll is now 3407.70€. Played some 100€ NL cash and 50€ HU, I broke even in both. Really not happy with how I played today. I had some random anxiety in the morning again and I slept badly. I started tilting especially in 50€ HU, I made some calls that I knew were bad and that's when I knew that I should stop playing for the evening. I probably should know not to play when I'm this tired. Would be so much ❤️♥️❤️ easier if my brain didn't decide to get ❤️♥️❤️ anxious for no reason when I'm trying to sleep in the morning. Just makes me angry that the anxiety is not under control yet.

@Dennis__Yeah those whales/maniacs/ICM fish are def the biggest losers, I think the super nit regs come after them in terms of how much they lose. I think it's often underestimated how much postflop actually matters in these SnG in the early stages. Having the big stack on the bubble has a lot of extra EV that ICM does not measure, because the big stack is expected to force so many folds/steal so many blinds. I might have understood wrong of course, I'm def not an expert! Anyway, I'm sure you know the strats better than I do :D. Just some ideas on what could be studied more still. If you a really good at ICM then maybe the logical thing to do is put more focus on postflop or early stage ranges when studying? But yeah I don't think you are bad postflop based on what I have seen.

That's a really brutal run! :wow: IMO the biggest losing play styles in those SnGs are probably either big nits or underbluffers that are rarely able to win enough chips to cash (at least vs regs who quickly recognise to avoid calling bets from these players), or super aggro maniacs/calling stations (usually with no ICM understanding) that manage to donate all their chips before cashing. I think quite often also SnG players neglect studying post flop too much and spend all their time studying ICM preflop ranges and all in spots. Maybe occasionally playing some cash games for a shorter stack (and studying the hands afterwards) at stakes that hardly matter might be an undervalued way of studying. Anyway, I doubt any of this applies to you, but just in case. Probably just really bad luck, hopefully the luck turns for the better soon! :popeye:

@Dennis__ Yeah I guess my way of comparing doesn't make that much sense anyway. 1 more SnG win and I make double the profit. 1 less win and I break even. Would be interesting to know if any data on some sort of winrate divided by variance has been published on either cash games or SnG. I guess that could be roughly figured out by variance calculators and researching the highest attainable winrates (in bb/100 or ROI) in different game formats.

@Dennis__ Ok :D. I think I remeber the screenname now that you mention it. 2 seats to my left or something? I don't think we played many hands vs each other. Yeah I guess it's a bit difficult to compare cash and 5/6 man SnG (and also to find the most comparable stake level, maybe comparable stake levels would be the ones with the same bankroll requirements?), but my impression so far is that cash tends to be more profitable per table played at comparable stake levels, though either can of course be quite profitable if you are good at the format and are playing high enough volume/stakes. Since poker is a zero sum game I guess that would mean that the worse players also lose more in cash games (if my opinion happens to be "correct" by some metric).

Hands from a few days ago are still findable/displayed? Not in the browser client 🤣 I guess they have made the hand history system better for the downloadable client then.

Bankroll is now 3436.30€. I was a bit tired today. Somehow my body doesn't like even 1 beer and a few hours of delaying bed time, and it decided to up the anxiety for the night, so I didn't sleep very well. I decided to play some cash games for a change, earlier today (mid afternoon). I figured that if I played cash when the player pool was so small, the tables would be more short handed and 4 tables would not feel like too few. The stakes that had players playing at the time were 100€ NL and 25€ NL. I chose the 25€ NL because of my fatigue. I ran quite well and I thought I also played reasonably well. In the end I made a profit of 155.86€ after 4 tabling for 90 minutes. This evening I decided to 4 table some 25€ 5 man SnGs for about 90 mins. I thought I played well enough for the most part, though perhaps a bit overaggressive 🤣. The aggression was working for the most part though (with the exception of 1 or 2 punts that ended up being called by the other players). Running well in all ins helped! In the end these were my results: 16 played, 5 wins, 2 second place finishes (profit 75.01€) It's funny that I played the same amount of tables of cash and SnG - for the same amount of time and same "buy in" - and I ran about as well in both (or maybe slightly better in the cash). But I made double the profit in cash games (and the variance in 25€ SnG is much bigger than in 25€ cash games). I can kind of see why the 5 or 6 man SnG format is dying in online poker. It's not as exiting for recs as the Hexapros/spins, and it's not as profitable for pros as cash games (or maybe I'm wrong?). Still, a shame that it's losing it's popularity like this.

Yes! Great idea. I think being able to copy a limited amount of hand histories per day (e.g 10) for sharing or personal hand analysis (e.g in a solver or preflop analyzer) would be the way to go. This would keep the amount small enough that it wouldn't be a concern for datamining. It used to be that you could simply copy hand histories from the HTML in the browser version but it seems they have patched that loophole, I haven't found a simple way to get around it yet in the new version. Other problems I see with the current system: -The hand replayed option goes away very soon after the hand has happened (at least in the browser version), so if you want to replay a hand you have to do it soon. I'm not sure why this is, I don't see how disabling the replayer so soon does anything positive. -You cannot search by hand type (e.g "K5o" or simply "K5", and you wouldn't need a different search bar for it in the GUI) or filter by minimum and maximum pot size or the time when the hand was played etc. I think this would be much more useful than searching by hand ID which is possible in the current system.