Fredrik-Unibet Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 @Valkyrie @Sect7GHi, I've been in direct contact with Sect7G and discussed the matter. As I mentioned in other other thread suppliers sometimes ask us to take down content in certain markets and we have no choice but to cooperate. That sometimes means popular games go away for some reason but we try to find good alternatives both in terms of the games and the campaigns.KR, Fredrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Okay, I didn't know you already knew. 😃 But it might be helpful for other Canadians who are wondering about the same thing if it's mentioned here as well. Too bad they're missing out on the games though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 NetEnt has turned into pure scam.But i have a clear impression that all games are connected someway or another, and if you had a "big win" (wich has become ridicilous low in general), it does not matter what game you try to play on.RTP% is far off and there is probably someone hired by them that plays (or bots) (with different results of course) to get the RTP up so, for example, eCogra's stats will look normal from their side.You can get a small impression of this by checking often and take a note of recent winners, wich are always the same, just recycled.Unibet also made a mistake a while back and exposed the email address to a player, wich belonged to a football coach.I request an independent audit of NetEnt's entire codebase, and unibet too for that matter.I would suggest that more people step up against this, since it's far from fair play for the players overall.On topic: I like the style and the feeling of HTML5 games and i don't mind that i can't select paylines. The payouts however.....These are just my thoughts and impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushbie Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 To Playerke025: Maybe people play a lot. A lot more than you think. With low stakes and good will. Maybe there's people around the globe, who think the casino games are a form of good solid investment for the future. Then there are people, who just want to have fun. Exitement after boring day, or for whatever reason. Its never about the money. Fun comes usually with watching something random happenings with low effort, slightly dangerous 😉 The screenshots that people are posting, are nothing but enjoyable pics of beatiful moments. Rare as h..l :laugh:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIP Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Good point. But when it comes to gambling, or any game that involves money, it is about a fair chance to see something that actually IS random.If it wasn't about money, you could just as well play with demo coins, or do a game of solitare, since you already say "it's not about the money"...Thing is, if they actually admitted that the result is fixed, and not claiming it's random, fair play and all that, it would (kinda) be "ok".But that is not the case.Now, where is the fun when you can play for thousands upon thousands of spins without getting a damn free spin, and if something finally happens, the results are just laughable.No, i don't think gambling in general is an investment, i always think that what i play for is lost.Point is, NetEnt has became extremely rigged, and "NetEnt - Better gaming" should clearly be changed to "NoEnt - Rigged gaming".I've played online since 2005 and played on NetEnt since 2006, and from 2006 to 2008 / 2009 it actually WAS a fair chance to get random results. It was possible to actually get free spins, fun, randomness and fair play.But after 2009 I've just seen NetEnt gradualy evolved into fixed scam, not random at all.For a comparsion, Microgaming have much, much more actual randomness to it.Sorry if someone feels offended by this post, but I'm afraid this is the truth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onixx89 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Random chance at slots? 🤣🤣They are supposed to give 90-98 % of money back.Actually the percent is 2%.I tried 10k spins few years ago on 5 slots, so 50k spins.I deleted my data but I can remember that I had at the end 1%-3%of my bankroll left. So conclusions are yours.GL(you gonna need it) if you still playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 @onixx89 wrote:Random chance at slots? 🤣🤣They are supposed to give 90-98 % of money back.Actually the percent is 2%.I tried 10k spins few years ago on 5 slots, so 50k spins.I deleted my data but I can remember that I had at the end 1%-3%of my bankroll left. So conclusions are yours.GL(you gonna need it) if you still playing!I'm not really sure if you're joking, but in case you're not: the payback percentage means that every time you play e.g. 100 * 1 units, you should have 96-98 units left. If you play 10k units, you will theoretically lose all 100 units :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoV Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 @RIP, I'm very sorry to hear that you think NetEnt is rigged. But i have a clear impression that all games are connected someway or another, and if you had a "big win" (wich has become ridicilous low in general), it does not matter what game you try to play on.The games aren't connected to each other in any way and it's not like the slot game saves your history. The chance of winning is the exact same, regardless if your previous spin was a win or not - if this wasn't the case, it would have been rigged indeed.RTP% is far off and there is probably someone hired by them that plays (or bots) (with different results of course) to get the RTP up so, for example, eCogra's stats will look normal from their side.The theoretically RTP (Return To Player) variates for each slot game, and the majority of our slots have an RTP between 95-98%. Here is some of our popular slots listed with RTP:Bloodsuckers 98,0 %Starburst 96,1 %Zombies 97,2 %Lucky Angler 96,4 %Evolution 96,3 %Gonzo's Quest 96,0 %Subtopia 96,0 %Crime Scene 96,7 %Simsalabim 97,5 %Let’s draw up an example for one of the slots. If you place bets of €100, statistically you should get €98 in return. Obviously the actual RTP for each player variates – otherwise no one would be able to win on our slots.The theoretical RTP is calculated for a whole life time of the slot game including millions of spins. This means that you can have a “personal” RTP at 150% as well as 50% on a slot game. For instance, if your personal RTP is under 98% on Bloocsuckers, you are simply unlucky.I had a look at your activity on NetEnt games during February and March. You actually made a profit from the spins you had on NetEnt games in February. You've been been unlucky so far in this month, as the RTP% is only at aprox. 85% in March.RIP wrote:I request an independent audit of NetEnt's entire codebase, and unibet too for that matter.All our provider's products (including NetEnt's) are being tested by independent third party companies (eCogra for instance) in order to guarantee safety and transparency.Links:NetEnt licenseseCogra Former community moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Aloha is worst of them all :D Has anybody ever won from that game??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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