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VikingsAF Rank 21
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@GR1ZZL3R you can fold Tongue

But then it's maybe because he wants to be polite

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GR1ZZL3R Rank 22
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@VikingsAF I see that if your in the sb and your sleeper is in the bb you can fold your 1/2 blind but then the game would stay level-if it were HU and he was being polite, very unusual- but if there were three of you I don't see 2 very polite players waiting for a sleeper, ever. Smile

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Silver1 Rank 16
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@GR1ZZL3R That’s correct! He was raising all my BBs and other pots so I decided to let him win due to the sleeper guy had less chips then me. Suddenly the guy folded to the sleeper without reason. I had a slight chip advantage to the sleeper so there was no room from and ICM standpoint to make other decisions. I took a flip earlier against the active guy but then realized there was a sleeper stack. Was multi tabling so was not super awake in that spot. Any how everything maybe is legit but I have seen situations like these arise more and more. My sample size is not huge but recognized the behavior pattern more than just a few times.

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GR1ZZL3R Rank 22
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Thanks for the explanation @Silver1 I have seen a big stack fold to a sleeper but only very rarely and it can be annoying if that then gives the sleeper more chips than you, but I suppose it is a tactical ploy to maybe get you to commit your stack, get KO'd then he has the sleeper to himself. I do think this is more tactical than devious but keep an eye out. Geek

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Silver1 Rank 16
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True @GR1ZZL3R! Would obviously be a smart move by the Person who is huge chip lead. And thanks for charging your thoughts👍

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@Silver1 wrote:

True @GR1ZZL3R! Would obviously be a smart move by the Person who is huge chip lead. And thanks for charging your thoughts👍


Heard back from security who checked on this, said there was no collusion or suspicious play found in the SNG.

/Jeppe

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Bing__ Rank 17
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@Silver1in this example the big stack is letting the sleeper have the blinds purposely so that you yourself blind down (so you cash). He knows you have to fold to avoid bubbling so he gets you as short as he possibly can.

Its not 'sporting' as such but its not colusion or illegal either.

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WuDu Rank 21
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If the sleeper is in the BB and the chipleader who walks him is in the SB (which should be disallowed for unfair play), you can combat that behaviour by calling from the button. The chipleader will raise all-in, which eliminates the sleeper from the hand, so you don't lose any chips on him. Also, it's a great situation to double up if you get nice cards.

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Silver1 Rank 16
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@Jeppe-Unibetok, thanks for looking stuff up! GreatfulSmile

@WuDu& @Bing__ you got it, nice counter move!

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