blog: from 50€ up

[taft]

Thanks everyone :) Yesterday didn't go too well, played several 4€ tournaments which I busted, most notably one very late in the tournament with a decent stack and AA, bet pre, bet random rainbow flop, other guy somehow shoved with his K6 (hit the 6) I called for 3/4 of my stack and of course the river was another 6, so I was crippled and it was uneventful after that, went out with a shove pre QT<Q2.

Cash didn't go too well either. I noticed I got into a disbelieveing mood and there was one girl at one of my tables who got several buyins out of me by simply going all in pre several times. I just couldn't resist calling her down with whatever semi-viable hand I had and she had AA every time :D Not once was it anything else.

So I was down to 21€ by the end of the night.

51 flops seen today, and am now at 30.17€

[kingngod]

try some lover mtt, without rebuys, rebuys are only if u have *solid* bankroll, always expect in rebuys preflop all ins, especially turbo. Try lover buyins with bounty deep, don t bluff there too much )

[kingngod]

Oh sorry its in cash huh... yes it happens a lot, its cash and all in preflop most times something good!

[kingngod]

Same mistake i did in double trouble, when opponent went all in almost every hand so i had A10 suited called, he had QJ, but guy next to me also called with AA, flop flush draw!, turn 10!, river 2 ((( heheh, discipline great thing!

[kingngod]

Dont give up! 😃

[taft]

Haha, thanks. Yeah, I'm not too worried, as far as the cashgames then I pretty much just played bad yesterday, it's looking up now again, I hope to be back up at 50 later today or at some point tomorrow, definitely don't intend to go bust. :) Trying to play a bit more tonight and strictly 4NL, except the community league tournament which I already registered.

[taft]

Well, didn't go bust with poker, am at 24-point-something euro theoretically, played some 4€ and 10€ tournaments, played some 4NL. PRACTICALLY I am at 0 euro because obviously bingo and slots, but luckily I took note of how much I had so plan is to deposit that same 24 tomorrow and keep going. 

Taking into mind the recent thread about how blogs should focus on someting other than bankrolls, here's how I have developed as a person at the tables recently: I've come to accept some of those players are obviously psychic because of the confidence with which midpair/mehkicker gets played and of course invariably hits trips on river. It's like ... somany times this has happened. :D I am cool with it, haven't really tilted, the bingo and slots stuff was just for a bit of entertainment, but it's annoying to have to keep track of the roll if I do this, easy enough if I take my roll and bust it, but when I win at slots/bingo but not a significant enough amount to withdraw, it gets confusing, so I pretty much deliberately slotted with the intention to go bust after I got it up to 100+€ and I guess that's silly. 

[Magicadil]

 Since bingo/slots is all luck, here's another strategy I thought of which you could try:

Take 1 or 2€ and instead of going to slots or bingo, place a sports bet at the end of your session. (Only if you've had a losing session. If winning, ignore). Place a bet on a sport that hasn't started yet or has started and the player/team currently winning is an underdog (Odds around 3.00 or higher). Since you're placing a bet without any analysis it will also be very luck based but I feel it's a better gamble then going to bingo/slots. If bet loses, you only lose 1 or 2€. If bet wins, you recover some of, if not all (Depending on odds) of that days losses.

Just an alternative to bingo/slots. Of course the best advise would be to stick with Poker but if you're drifting towards something else at least this way it's stil as exciting as casino games.

[taft]

Thanks , that's actually a very cool idea.

[MoreTBC]

Having a universal bankroll on the site is a nightmare for keeping track of results in a specific game. I would suggest not thinking of the games as having their own bankrolls and just have one big bag of tokens to play with. If you win at bingo or on the slots, you have extra poker tokens and vice versa. The same will then work in reverse, every time you spin a slot you're losing a poker token. That €100+ you won is a lot of poker tokens :) You can ask support for a monthly +/- in poker I think if you want to keep an accurate report of just the poker ins and outs I think.

An alternative to what Magicadil suggested would be to play 2 man €1 SnGs. They normally only take a few minutes and you either double your money (well €1.94 or something) or you don't.

[taft]

Ok, I was just thinking for the purposes of this thread it's better if I keep the bankroll just poker. I'll just try not to bingo or slot anymore. (Much)

About those psychic players though. Just now in the 10€ bounty, second hand: I have KK on the small blind, it goes limp limp limp decent sized raise, I 3bet 3x, get a limper to call and the original raiser calls as well, flop comes T3T, I bet out, limper folds, original raiser raises, I push, and he shows T4s. The f?

Edited to add, it probably wasn't limps though, I wasn't paying attention, the "limps" were all 60 so if it starts out at 10/20 they were actually raise and calls and the pre raiser already 3b and I 4 b him. So even worse.

 

[MoreTBC]

The €10 bounties have some of the craziest plays I've ever seen playing MTTs but you have to look at it this way. If you were in the same situation 100 times preflop you're going to win 83 times roughly. They just hit one of the 17. :( You made the correct decision and it'll be profitable in the long term.

General rule of thumb is to have 50-100x the buy-in for MTTs so it may be worth considering dropping down to €1 or €4 to keep more tokens in the bag :) It might not seem that exciting playing for a €20 top prize but you have to look at it as how many times the buy in you're winning. At the €1 level it can be +20x.

[taft]

Yeah, I'm afraid I can't get motivated to play 1€ tournaments much though, although at the moment I have so little left, I might just have to, also have a 2MTT ticket from the missions, so going to play that at some point. I'm a bit tempted to just add another 50 and call it an even hundred as far as the "starting" roll, but I guess I'll wait a bit with that, I can still do a few tables of 4NL and maybe some 1€ mtts or sngs at the same time with what I have now, so not too unmanageable a situation, and maybe I'll climb out without having to add, we'll see.

[taft]

Okay, update. Probably lost this week at poker overall, definitely at lost at 4NL but recouped some with the community freeroll bounties last night, I'm going to ask for my poker wins/losses this week from support tomorrow I guess, but overall, hasn't gone too well.

However. Present roll: 

Sort of hit 6 scatter with a 12€ bet on the Old McDonald minigame (insert eyeroll)

Since I want to play those 10€ tournaments occasionally, my new plan is to go forward from here with a 200 roll, I know it sounds short for some of you, but eh, I think with 200 I should be able to play some of them and then move down if I lose too much etc. Not sure what I'll do about the cashgames, since I had a losing week at the lowest stake I'm certainly no where near in a good position to play any higher, so I guess 4NL it will be for the forseeable future.

[Magicadil]

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@taft wrote:

Okay, update. Probably lost this week at poker overall, definitely at lost at 4NL but recouped some with the community freeroll bounties last night, I'm going to ask for my poker wins/losses this week from support tomorrow I guess, but overall, hasn't gone too well.

However. Present roll: 

Sort of hit 6 scatter with a 12€ bet on the Old McDonald minigame (insert eyeroll)

Since I want to play those 10€ tournaments occasionally, my new plan is to go forward from here with a 200 roll, I know it sounds short for some of you, but eh, I think with 200 I should be able to play some of them and then move down if I lose too much etc. Not sure what I'll do about the cashgames, since I had a losing week at the lowest stake I'm certainly no where near in a good position to play any higher, so I guess 4NL it will be for the forseeable future.

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Wow, nice hit! A 12€ is degencercy at it's finest though since I'm guessing it wouldn't have been just spin and could have wiped out roll. However, you came out with an incredible result.

Give the casino games a big middle finger and self exclude from them for life now please. You have a very nice bankroll for poker now. Don't give slots even 0.01 from now on.

[maryya62]

Good Luck:cash::cash::cash:

[Ametrine]

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@taft wrote:

Okay, update. ...

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It's clear that you enjoy playing slots/minigames, they're fast and fun, I totally get the drift. I think in your case it would be the perfect option if Unibet had the opportunity to have different bankrolls for different parts of the site, unfortunately it isn't so. You kind of reached your goal though: "from 50€ up" :laugh:

But on a more serious note, I really agree with you that it's best to stick at the lowest stakes in poker until you feel you're crushing them/until your poker bankroll proves you're ready to move up. It really can get boring there, but it will be good practice to your patience 👍 

Good luck and stay strong! 😃

[GotWhatItTakes]

Do you really have a >6k€ bankroll now? If so, congrats! Maybe give UO Qualfication a shot? 😃 

[jonny2192]

It sounds daft but the right tables of NL25 to me at least seem easier than NL4, Definetly less crazziness at that level IMO.

Maybe give a 50bb a shot as a one off trial and see if you feel you are doing better there.

Nice BR good luck with your next games.

[mateO87]

Good luck!!! :)

[taft]

Thanks everyone for the well wishes :) I'lLwait a bit with the 25NL , should get a ticket from the last week of Moving on Up for it, so about then I guess I'll start mixing some in. I still don't feel like I can't beat 4NL :D I've just been sort of playing bad a bit this week, and normally always chatting or having other stuff going on while I'm playing, so if I pay more attention to the tables I think I'll be fine, but we'll see.

I withdrew almost everything, left 200 on but then blew it at slots, so I'm now at 19 cents :D and the tickets I have accumulated. I'll deposit a bit back tomorrow I guess, maybe I'll see how much I can get with the tickets today and then deposit 200 minus whatever amount I have in the account, so it's an even 200 to start next week. Or maybe I'll just deposit the 200, doesn't really make that big a difference I guess.

Have been playing the 4PLO ticket from the missions today, 1t's at 17.35 at the moment, so going fine. Opponents seem pretty soft. Also doing some 1€ mtts with the tickets from challenges.

[taft]

Deposited 200€, self-excluded from casino and bingo for a month. Haven't had time to play too much today, did some 4€ and 10€ tournaments which I busted, played a tiny bit of 4NL semi-successfully, made a few euro anyway, but with the tounrament losses the roll is now at 191.01€ plus 170€ in Unibet Open sattie tickets (took the 50UO I won from the community freeroll Friday and exchanged it down to 10s, played those, won two, exchanged back down to tens, and have been playing those, so now have 2x50 again and the rest in tens, hoping to score a UO package at some point :D)

[Magicadil]

Glad you self excluded from casino/bingo. The Poker Gods are definitely going to reward you now for taking that courageous step.

[Ametrine]

Yep, good choice to exclude for a short time to focus only on poker. I really hope you get the UO package, would be super super nice! Good luck as always 😃

[kingngod]

Congratz! 😃 I remembered my times when i was quiet succesfull in bookies 3 card brag, i could been making 100-300 pounds UK, come to 1 bookie put 100 pounds make few bets and go with 120, go to another city make another 20 go, was been nice, i always was skeptic about slots, but than tried, started makin 50+, won jackpot 500 maximum amount available it sucks when made 30 pounds bet for 5 spins(extra game) and than all screen with wilds and only 500, but still was in plus,  than started putting in 200-300 to play new feature games like where u pay 20-50 pounds for wheel spin it gives 5 mega wild spins or something, than played more slots until lost all bankroll, also played online BJ  heheh

Focus on poker, go slow, dont rush! 😃