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Dr_Yevskij Rank 9
Rank 9

Bad beat over and over again playin the hexapro. Will stick to plo cash, I reckon. Or I will quit UB too...

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freddies Rank 11
Rank 11

stars is so bad theses days.  

unibet donkeys are very lucky these days but our day will come.

 

Cheeky

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MeganW Rank 10
Rank 10

I have an opinion but might be judged for it ... so reserve judgement ...

Unibet like all other platforms is only a business ... and businesses only grow with new players joining and depositing ... 

Obviously there are pro players on all platforms and game for game new players will not be depositing if only the more experienced players win the tournaments and gather all the cash. If for instance the newby is allowed to crack the more experienced players cards with total underdog cards it might encourage him to make those extra deposits ... It boggles my mind that it is always "donk" player hitting the nuts and cracking a total superior hand when the "unofficial" standard play dictates that those hands must be folded. Really? ... calling or shoving a 3 or 4 bet with an All in? ... with a 7 5 or J 4? ... and somewhere inbetween the flop and river he hits the nuts ...

But if he plays like that and he does beat you ... He might make another deposit next time he loses with that play ... Unfortunately he already ruined your 3 hour grind and bust you just before the bubble ... 

Please understand that I am generalising over different platforms and do NOT implicate Unibet in specifically ... These software was written and developed for businesses to make money and somewhere in the code it says: "The best players must not always win" 

This opinion is based on personal experience over the run of about 10 years of online playing with some of the "top"??? rated platforms out there. I am only a recreational player and definately not a pro ... 

 

 

Veni, Vidi .... Amavi
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Brocky Rank 18
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I think the problem is people don't understand variance.  I doubt even 0.01% of the poker playing population truly understand variance.  I certainly don't understand it, but what I do understand is that people generally only remember the negative variance.  I'm fairly sure 90% of poker players expect the best hand to hold 100% of the time which is ridiculous.  Your AA is going to lose to 72 12.5% of the time, your KK is going to lose to AKs 33.6% of the time.  That's more than 1 in 3 times.  If you play enough hands, variance will even itself out to some extent.  You will always people who run above EV and people who run below, the poker sites don't have any say on this, their RNG's don't sit there and look at how much a player deposits or how long they've been playing.  

If you go on Youtube you'll see 100+ videos of ridiculous beats in live poker but people only ever attribute bad beats to online because that's the narrative they want to believe.  I hit a one outer on the turn at Unibet Open Dublin, did the dealer rig that for me?

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Silver1 Rank 16
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@Brocky wrote:

I think the problem is people don't understand variance.  I doubt even 0.01% of the poker playing population truly understand variance.  I certainly don't understand it, but what I do understand is that people generally only remember the negative variance.  I'm fairly sure 90% of poker players expect the best hand to hold 100% of the time which is ridiculous.  Your AA is going to lose to 72 12.5% of the time, your KK is going to lose to AKs 33.6% of the time.  That's more than 1 in 3 times.  If you play enough hands, variance will even itself out to some extent.  You will always people who run above EV and people who run below, the poker sites don't have any say on this, their RNG's don't sit there and look at how much a player deposits or how long they've been playing.  

If you go on Youtube you'll see 100+ videos of ridiculous beats in live poker but people only ever attribute bad beats to online because that's the narrative they want to believe.  I hit a one outer on the turn at Unibet Open Dublin, did the dealer rig that for me?


This!

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I don’t understand the variance either but have accepted that fact.

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DoktorAvalanche Rank 12
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Agreed. Not rigged. And human nature sees patterns which can make us think it is. But it's not. Smile
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GR1ZZL3R Rank 23
Rank 23

It is certainly true that most people tend to focus only when they are 1 or 2 outed and don't remember the times they do it back. I believe I don't focus on my giving bad beats because I just don't find myself in that situation too often. When I have a draw, generally open ended straight or flush, I try to look at the odds on offer and more often than not will fold if I'm not getting the correct or implied odds, would never dream of calling a shove with J4 or 93, therefore statistically I give far fewer bad beats than I get. We say it time and time again, how you played the hand is so much more important than the result, although it never feels like it at the time. If you could look back over all the hands you've played you might be surprised how often you do win with AA or KK, it's just the recent losses tend to linger longer in the memory, especially if it's at a crucial time. Rofl

 

It Is What It Is
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MeganW Rank 10
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@Brocky ... Agreed ... Like I said ... Only an opinion.

Those stats remain if all hands play all hands every hand ... How do they call with that specific hand at that specific time and hit the boat or set?

I was playing a hand 1/2 hour ago ... 

Villain flat calls UTG ... action folds to me in small Blind with AQ ... I raise 4 BB and he ships full stack which I have easily covered ... he has J 9 ... And he flops a SET on a hand I could not improve ... 

J 9 for Tournment life?

If this happens once ... no problem ... but how many times a day???

That why I have my opinion and personally if someone can explain why the one hand out of the 5 others ships and kills your hand ... I might change my opinion ...

I am not looking to challenge you guys ... you have much more experience than I do ... and if this post offends anyone please remove it ...

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Veni, Vidi .... Amavi
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Brocky Rank 18
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Nobody is offended but you're going to lose 38 times out of 100.  That's not far from being a flip, so is it really as bad of a beat as you're making out?

odds.PNG

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DoktorAvalanche Rank 12
Rank 12

People play all sorts of different hands for all sorts of different reasons. Cards they have a preference for, they're drunk, not concentrating, they're a terrible player, they're playing lower limits than they usually do and are just having a bit of fun, they suddenly need to leave. Many reasons. All you can do is concentrate on doing the right things as much and as often as you can. 

I'd say the villain here likes suited gappers and thought they might either shove you off the hand or get lucky with the flop. Unfortunately it was the latter. Disappointed

 

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