snufkins

Ok, I've never fully understood the division between CS and you guys in the community when it comes to inquiries on poker issues, but then I'll know for future reference.

Hi again, just checking if there is any update on this? 🤔 @Andy-Unibet @Stubbe-Unibet

Hi @Andy-Unibet , I was playing some SnGs the other day and came across these two players that I strongly suspect was working as a pair. They actively avoided trying to eliminate each other and (rather obviously) made several chip dumping plays to balance each others stacks out when we played three handed. Here is just one example of clear chip dumping with the hand ID number attached if you would like to investigate the session further? No fun playing against these collusionistas. Thanks //Snufkins Spel #1832906979: Bord €10 SNG 5 Seat - 100.00/200.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €47.50 - 23:14:21 2023/02/24 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: ME (3170) Platser 2: rakosgeci (4840) Platser 5: Hindusan (1990) *** Blindar och knapp *** ME har knappen rakosgeci lägger lilla mörken 100 Hindusan lägger stora mörken 200 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in rakosgeci Dealt in Hindusan Delat ut till ME [3h 5h] *** Innan flop *** ME lägger sig rakosgeci höjer 300 med 400 Hindusan höjer 400 med 600 rakosgeci lägger sig Hindusan vinner 1000 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 1000 Säte 2: rakosgeci: satsar 400 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -400 Säte 5: Hindusan: satsar 600 och vinner 1000, nettoresultat: 400

Hi, would like to report following two named players below for possible collusion/chip dumping. I'm not sure but why fold another 78 when already raised 400 and lowstack is all-in with 478? And he was pretty loose in his calls against others.. Saw at least one other similiar hand between them earlier as well.. Spel #1668803633: Bord €10 SNG 5 Seat - 80.00/160.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €47.50 - 20:07:49 2022/04/24 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: Malle16 (478) Platser 2: Player 1 (1956) Platser 3: Player 2 (1780) Platser 4: Adaaa6 (3514) Platser 5: Player 3 (2272) *** Blindar och knapp *** Player 3 har knappen Malle16 lägger lilla mörken 80 Player 1 lägger stora mörken 160 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in Malle16 Dealt in Player 1 Dealt in Player 2 Dealt in Adaaa6 Delat ut till Player 3 [8k 4h] *** Innan flop *** Player 2 lägger sig Adaaa6 höjer 400 med 400 Player 3 lägger sig Malle16 höjer 398 med 478, och är all-in Player 1 lägger sig Adaaa6 lägger sig Malle16 vinner 1038 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 1038 Säte 1: Malle16: satsar 478 och vinner 1038, nettoresultat: 560 Säte 2: Player 1: satsar 160 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -160 Säte 4: Adaaa6: satsar 400 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -400 @Stubbe-Unibet @Andy-Unibet

As I understand it (or maybe I missed it) data/statistics for Sit n Go games are not avilable in the Game Lab thing, are there plans to inlcude SnG's there as well in the future?

Hi, I haven't understood this thing either, other than that the sound thing scared the crap out of me first time it started in the lobby.. 😂 But am I right to assume that Swedish players cannot participate anyways, so no point learning how the point system work and so on?

Hi Howlett, I'm not sure what you are asking. As poker players we can all relate to your arguments, without bad beats we'd all be millionaires by now 🤑😉 but are you asking whether poker sites deliberately rig the games in favor of certain players, plays, situtations? Or are you asking if true random can really be generated artificially? I'm no mathematician or programmer or philosepher so have no idea. Maybe, maybe not 🤔🤷‍♂️

Okej great, glad to hear and that it was resolved quickly as well 👍 Yes I suspected more people reacted to them playing. Since it has been confirmed might as well post the names they used if anyone reads this and wondering whether they played against them last night. Villain 1 = MrMelk Villain 2 = AMCtoTH3moon

Played one more game and same two players at the table, collusion probability definitely went up some %. They played completely different towards each other than against the rest of us although Villain 2 seems to be the worse player and got knocked out first while I ended up playing HU (and won 😁 👍) against Villain 1. Probably explains why Villain 1 was the one doing most of the chip dumping and Vaillain 2 the receiver. Anyways hope you can look into it to be sure. Good night for now

Hi, Was recently playing a 10 euro SNG and is quite possitive that two players were playing together and definitely chip dumping. This time I'm not as 100% sure as last time (more like 92% sure) so I will not out their name in the examples below (or do you need the names to check?) But there were almost certainly chip dumping going on so if you could look into that I would appriciate it. I'll post three examples below, this happeded several times between Villain 1 and Villain 2... Spel #1489828590: Bord €10 SNG 5 Seat - 100.00/200.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €47.50 - 22:40:52 2021/05/17 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 2: Ump4Lump4 (1500) Platser 4: Villain 1 (6340) Platser 5: Villain 2 (2160) *** Blindar och knapp *** Ump4Lump4 har knappen Villain 1 lägger lilla mörken 100 Villain 2 lägger stora mörken 200 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in Villain 1 Dealt in Villain 2 Delat ut till Ump4Lump4 [4s Jh] *** Innan flop *** Ump4Lump4 lägger sig Villain 1 höjer 400 med 500 Villain 2 höjer 600 med 800 Villain 1 höjer 600 med 1100 Villain 2 höjer 1360 med 2160, och är all-in Villain 1 lägger sig Villain 2 vinner 3260 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 3260 Säte 4: Villain 1: satsar 1100 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -1100 Säte 5: Villain 2: satsar 2160 och vinner 3260, nettoresultat: 1100 Spel #1489827912: Bord €10 SNG 5 Seat - 80.00/160.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €47.50 - 22:39:24 2021/05/17 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: Commodor3 (2620) Platser 2: Ump4Lump4 (1440) Platser 4: Villain 1 (3860) Platser 5: Villain 2 (2080) *** Blindar och knapp *** Ump4Lump4 har knappen Villain 1 lägger lilla mörken 80 Villain 2 lägger stora mörken 160 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in Villain 1 Dealt in Villain 2 Dealt in Commodor3 Delat ut till Ump4Lump4 [5h Kk] *** Innan flop *** Commodor3 lägger sig Ump4Lump4 lägger sig Villain 1 höjer 240 med 320 Villain 2 höjer 320 med 480 Villain 1 lägger sig Villain 2 vinner 800 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 800 Säte 4: Villain 1: satsar 320 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -320 Säte 5: Villain 2: satsar 480 och vinner 800, nettoresultat: 320 Spel #1489826926: Bord €10 SNG 5 Seat - 80.00/160.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €47.50 - 22:37:24 2021/05/17 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: Commodor3 (2540) Platser 2: Ump4Lump4 (2080) Platser 4: Villain 1 (3620) Platser 5: Villain 2 (1760) *** Blindar och knapp *** Ump4Lump4 har knappen Villain 1 lägger lilla mörken 80 Villain 2 lägger stora mörken 160 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in Villain 1 Dealt in Villain 2 Dealt in Commodor3 Delat ut till Ump4Lump4 [3k 2k] *** Innan flop *** Commodor3 lägger sig Ump4Lump4 lägger sig Villain 1 höjer 240 med 320 Villain 2 höjer 320 med 480 Villain 1 höjer 320 med 640 Villain 2 höjer 320 med 800 Villain 1 lägger sig Villain 2 vinner 1440 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 1440 Säte 4: Villain 1: satsar 640 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -640 Säte 5: Villain 2: satsar 800 och vinner 1440, nettoresultat: 640 @Stubbe-Unibet @Andy-Unibet //Ump4Lump4

If one feels they've had a bad beat one can always think that loosing with quads is probably worse.. :laugh:

Ah ok great, thanks for reply! Guess I was blind after all :laugh:

Hi, Am I blind or is there no "sit out" button/box at the tables anymore? If one has to go take a leak during a session..

Great stuff, glad to hear that. It is strange how they did not care about being obvious about their collusion. Don't know if they didn't know it is not allowed or if they just thought the rest of us is dumb enough not to notice. The hands I posted was just the most obvious examples, looking back at the game really everything they did had the strategy of working together to bleed the rest of us while shifting chips in between them both. Although I got really good hands that game it really made it impossible to play, although it was an interesting experience to see how much more difficult it was to play against two players working together. When I was the big chipleader early on I shifted focus to another table thinking they would knock each other out rather quickly given the way they were playing and just couldn't understand how the game could still be going on with blinds at 150-300. Now it makes more sence though 🤣 Glad to hear they got suspended quickly though! 👍

Just also thought of this hand, happened earlier in the game after I had just made "kudnc" a lowstack. At the time it just seemed like an idiotic/weird play from "Konsultti" but in retrospect after getting to know them it was an obvious chip dump from "konsultti" to "kudnc". Why re-raise to 300 but fold when lowstack moves all-in with 545.. Spel #1435180350: Bord €4 SNG 5 Seat - 25.00/50.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €19 - 17:11:47 2021/02/23 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: gr1mf4ndango (4048) Platser 2: kudnc (545) Platser 3: Konsultti (2524) Platser 4: -Bratwurst- (1850) Platser 5: veelgrip (1033) *** Blindar och knapp *** kudnc har knappen Konsultti lägger lilla mörken 25 -Bratwurst- lägger stora mörken 50 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in Konsultti Dealt in -Bratwurst- Dealt in veelgrip Delat ut till gr1mf4ndango [Ts 4k] Dealt in kudnc *** Innan flop *** veelgrip lägger sig gr1mf4ndango lägger sig kudnc höjer 150 med 150 Konsultti höjer 275 med 300 -Bratwurst- lägger sig kudnc höjer 395 med 545, och är all-in Konsultti lägger sig kudnc vinner 895 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 895 Säte 2: kudnc: satsar 545 och vinner 895, nettoresultat: 350 Säte 3: Konsultti: satsar 300 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -300 Säte 4: -Bratwurst-: satsar 50 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -50

Folding an all-in that's less then a small blind to call and the chance to play heads-up? But calling for all your chips with K high (K2) and A high (A9) which was the only two hands they were all-in against each other in the whole game and just happened to have the exact same hand and a guranteed split pot. At first I couldn't understand how the game could go on for so long, given how aggressiv and loose they were playing, expecially against us others but also against each other PRE-FLOP and then folding. I was running good and got a big chip lead early on and was basically just plying tight and waiting for others to knock each other out but nothing happened so game went on and on. They were loose with all-ins againt me and the fourth guy and always folded each other. But then it became more than obvious what was going on, not least three handed. Really took the fun out of playing that game.

Hi, Was playing a 4 euro SNG with players "Konsultti" and "Kudnc" who where definitely working together against other players, especially three handed against me. They where extremely loose and agressive but ALWAYS folded all-ins gainst each other while being very loose on their calls all-in against me. The ONLY two times as I could see they where all-in against each other they had the exact same hand as I will post below. Including a hand where I previously hand taking chips from "kudnc" so he/she went all-in with 818 left on small blind with big blind being 600 (so only 218 more for "konsultti" to call and possibly play heads-up with me when I was chipleader but instead folded..). This made it almost impossible for me as I where playing against two players working together against me, really boring to see, and I eventually ended up third place which should not have been the case if they played normal. I´ll post the hand where there should have been a definite call (especially considering how loose they where against me and others) and also the only two hands where they where all-in against each other and all suddenly called with K high and nothing and A high having nothing... The text is in Swedish though, hope that workds anyway. Spel #1435207313: Bord €4 SNG 5 Seat - 300.00/600.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €19 - 17:45:45 2021/02/23 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: gr1mf4ndango (4794) Platser 2: kudnc (893) Platser 3: Konsultti (4313) *** Blindar och knapp *** gr1mf4ndango har knappen gr1mf4ndango lägger ante 75 kudnc lägger ante 75 Konsultti lägger ante 75 kudnc lägger lilla mörken 300 Konsultti lägger stora mörken 600 *** Hålkort *** Dealt in kudnc Dealt in Konsultti Delat ut till gr1mf4ndango [4k Th] *** Innan flop *** gr1mf4ndango lägger sig kudnc höjer 518 med 818, och är all-in Konsultti lägger sig kudnc vinner 1643 *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 1643 Säte 1: gr1mf4ndango: satsar 75 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -75 Säte 2: kudnc: satsar 893 och vinner 1643, nettoresultat: 750 Säte 3: Konsultti: satsar 675 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -675 Spel #1435205676: Bord €4 SNG 5 Seat - 250.00/500.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €19 - 17:43:43 2021/02/23 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: gr1mf4ndango (3372) Platser 2: kudnc (3790) Platser 3: Konsultti (2838) *** Blindar och knapp *** gr1mf4ndango har knappen gr1mf4ndango lägger ante 50 kudnc lägger ante 50 Konsultti lägger ante 50 kudnc lägger lilla mörken 250 Konsultti lägger stora mörken 500 *** Hålkort *** Delat ut till kudnc [Kr 2r] Delat ut till Konsultti [Kh 2h] Delat ut till gr1mf4ndango [5h Tk] *** Innan flop *** gr1mf4ndango lägger sig kudnc synar 250 Konsultti passar *** Flop *** [3h 7r 4s] kudnc passar Konsultti passar *** Turn *** [3h 7r 4s] [8k] kudnc satsar 500 Konsultti höjer 2288 med 2288, och är all-in kudnc synar 1788 *** Sammanfattning *** *** River *** [3h 7r 4s] [8k] [Ah] kudnc visar [Kr 2r], Högt kort, delad Konsultti visar [Kh 2h], Högt kort, delad kudnc vinner 2863 från huvudpot Konsultti vinner 2863 från huvudpot *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 5726 Säte 1: gr1mf4ndango: satsar 50 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -50 Säte 2: kudnc: satsar 2838 och vinner 2863, nettoresultat: 25 Säte 3: Konsultti: satsar 2838 och vinner 2863, nettoresultat: 25 Spel #1435199810: Bord €4 SNG 5 Seat - 150.00/300.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prissumma €19 - 17:36:36 2021/02/23 *** Antalet spelare *** Platser 1: gr1mf4ndango (3681) Platser 2: kudnc (2315) Platser 3: Konsultti (2274) Platser 4: -Bratwurst- (1730) *** Blindar och knapp *** -Bratwurst- har knappen gr1mf4ndango lägger ante 25 kudnc lägger ante 25 Konsultti lägger ante 25 -Bratwurst- lägger ante 25 gr1mf4ndango lägger lilla mörken 150 kudnc lägger stora mörken 300 *** Hålkort *** Delat ut till gr1mf4ndango [Tk 5k] Delat ut till kudnc [Ah 9h] Delat ut till Konsultti [Ar 9s] Dealt in -Bratwurst- *** Innan flop *** Konsultti höjer 900 med 900 -Bratwurst- lägger sig gr1mf4ndango lägger sig kudnc synar 600 *** Flop *** [4r 2s 7h] kudnc satsar 1390, och är all-in Konsultti synar 1349, och är all-in Ickesynad satsning återlämnad till kudnc: 41 *** Sammanfattning *** *** Turn *** [4r 2s 7h] [Js] *** River *** [4r 2s 7h] [Js] [3h] kudnc visar [Ah 9h], Högt kort, delad Konsultti visar [Ar 9s], Högt kort, delad Konsultti vinner 2374 från huvudpot kudnc vinner 2374 från huvudpot *** Sammanfattning *** Totalpot 4748 Säte 1: gr1mf4ndango: satsar 175 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -175 Säte 2: kudnc: satsar 2315 och vinner 2415, nettoresultat: 100 Säte 3: Konsultti: satsar 2274 och vinner 2374, nettoresultat: 100 Säte 4: -Bratwurst-: satsar 25 och vinner 0, nettoresultat: -25 I would very much apprciate a review of this session/game as I am positive they where working together in some capacity. Thanks. @Andy-Unibet @Stubbe-Unibet

Twice now in the last week it has happened when I was gonna play SNG HU that when the game started my table was blank. I cold not see anything but the table, not my avatar, not my opponent, not the chips or the cards. The "open table" button came up o the side and started blinking but it did not work pressing it and the money had been drawn from my account. Only when I restarted the software and logged in again did the table automatically open, then the game had been going on because I was down chips due to blinds. It has only happened twice so not very often, but still something seems to be wrong and maybe needs looking into. @JeppeL @Andy-Unibet @Stubbe-Unibet

@Andy-Unibet I'm sorry but I just can't find any "Attache file" button, all I can see is add Picture and Video but no file? Triying to include a screenshot of what I see, not sure how that is working out though..

@Andy-Unibet - No, it occured late the evening before but something was wrong and I don't think it was my internet so would appriciate you looking at what it could have been. Yes I think I found it, a txt file with just a huge amount of text in it? How should I provide it, upload it here somehow? (I'm not to familiar with this community thing)

@Andy-Unibet @Stubbe-Unibet @JeppeL

Was playing a 10 euro SNG HU when the server crashed for me whilst my internet worked just fine. Lost connection several times making it impossible play. Posting hand number for when I flopped three 10's with A,10 when opponent had 10,3, got back just in time for panic call before autofold, otherwise game would have been over there and I would have won 20. Would like refund please, if not for 20 so the least get back buy-in... Hand number: #1304157100 Alias: jk_calavera Date: 29/8 -2020

Still don't think I've gotten any refund for server crash on the 18th, was playing two 4-euro SNGs around 4 p.m. when server crashed. Also someting happened now as well? Was again playing two 4-euro SNG when I lost server connection whilst my internet works just fine and could not get back in... This time I got the table ID: "sg6ce9b7" and "sg6ce9b8"Can you see Also, you can see what my unibet account is? I registred separetly for this community thing and regular unibet account?

I was playing 2 x SNG tables 4 euro buy-in each when server crashed today, wold like to get re-funded for that (so 8 euro). Refund from the 15th has been recieved tho.