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@MarcoV@JeppeL

Hi guys,

I have a few questions about your offers regarding the German elections:

1) Right now you're offering Over/unders on CDU, SPD, AFD, FDP and Greens. Are you including The Left as well? They finished #3 last time and will reach the Bundestag as well this year. Did you miss them or is that an intentional decision?

2) Some odds already moved, e.g. CDU over 38,5 is at 2,00 and the under is at 1,72. If more people bet on the under here, are you reducing the o/u to 38 or are you keeping it at 38,5 with even more reduced rates? Same for the other parties.

3) Is there a chance you add more things to bet on as we get closer to election date? Maybe h2h, coalitions or voting-% ?

Anyway, great that you're offering those bets, I haven't seen them at the competition the last time I looked. ūüĎć

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Can't give an official answer, but a bit of feedback:

2) Usually the case, and don't see why they wouldn't also do it here, if the difference between over and under gets too big

3) In my experience it's usually best to say exactly what you'd like odds on. Which H2H etc.

 

Looking forward to see your picks ;)

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@WuDu I forwarded this to the sportsbook team earlier, but was waiting a respone before giving information here:

1) The Left has been added for the over/under along with coalition.

2) I can't say specifically what will happen as those are trader decisions, but BonusPater's answer is a good reference point.

3) There'll definitely be added more closer to the election, there a request in place now for h2h, but please do post specifc request if there's anything else you'd like and we'll forward :)

/Jeppe

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@JeppeL

Thanks for the quick reply. ūüĎć

9.5 o/u on the Left is an interesting choice and already attracted some business...

Regarding the head to head:

I'm personally most interested in AFD vs CDU (with handicap, of course), AFD vs SPD (with handicap), AFD vs Left (with hc or w/o), AFD vs Greens (With hc or w/o).

In addition to that I would consider SPD vs CDU (with hc), SPD vs Left (HC), SPD vs FDP (HC) and SPD vs Greens (HC).

I'm sure some of the other combinations would attract bets as well, however probably not with me.

@testuser1

I already placed a 50 Euro bet, however this one already made the odds move, so I'll have to wait a little to publish them, in order for me to get my money in first. But if my thought process is correct, there should be value left for others to bet on. I already have my data set for some parties and over the next few weeks I'll start to write down the explanation in a word file. But the Unibet guys were pretty solid with the odds, no doubt about that one...  

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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  • 3 weeks later...

Hi @JeppeL,

I have some additional odds requests regarding the federal election in Germany in September you might want to pass along to your traders.

1) Voter turnout: It would be great to get an over/under for the number of people that show up to vote. It could be an o/u on the percentage or an o/u on the absolute number of people voting that day. Both would be highly appreciated.

2) Another request would be to add more "extreme" (for a lack of a better term) over/unders for each party: For example, the O/U for the Left is at 9.5 right now. Are you planning to also offer additional over/unders of 8,5, 9,0, 10,0 and 10,5 as we approach the election date? I'd be interested in those additional odds for the following parties: CDU, SPD, AFD and the Left.

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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@JeppeL

First and formeost I want to say thank you guys for adding all those options to bet on, even if some disappeared again...Really great to see that you can start a topic, make a request and then bet on said request. ūüĎć

I have two seperate questions since the election is two weeks away:

First, is there a chance we still get H2H with handicaps? If you'd offer SPD vs AFD (+HC) with good looking odds, I'd definitely place a bet...

Second, if I place a bet, send it to Unibet to be confirmed and parts of it are accepted and parts of it come back, how long do I have to wait to place another bet on the same outcome?

 

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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Thanks for the kind words, @WuDu. Deligthed to hear that you're happy with the bet request service :) I've forwarded the thread to the traders.

As far as I'm aware, we usually approve the maximum stake the first time you place¬†a bet, unless you send a part of it to manual approval - e.g. if you want to bet ‚ā¨20 but¬†only get ‚ā¨15 approved, you shouldn't be able to place another bet shortly¬†after. There's no specific timeframe in terms of¬†placing another bet on the same outcome, as it depends on different factors like odds change, turnover, etc.

It doesn't hurt to try and place a bet even if you already sent the first bet to manual approval, but usually the traders won't approve more than the amount they allowed in the first place.

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@MarcoVūüėÉ

Thanks for the answer. I can place my bets again after Unibet adjusted their odds. Also great to see that you're offering coalitions and h2h between the small parties now. I'm still hoping that you also make CDU/CSU and the SPD available in h2h versus some of the small parties with a handicap, similar to what you did in the Norwegian election. Come on Marco, SPD vs AFD (+HC), make it happen....ūüėŹ

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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Bad news, @WuDu :( Got a response from the traders where they said that due to the lack of reliable polling this will be impossible to offer.

Regarding the maximum stake, here's the comment I got from the sportsbook team:

As soon as you place the same bet, this will be send to manual approval and most probably get refused by traders, however there may be some occasions where you'll be able to bet more than the amount we approved first place. Here's how it looks like the first and second time you try to place a bet:

bet1.PNG.4acc49f460fd6dcfe290d3a7ce009b5b.PNG                bet2.PNG.b7ed1715e1fec174f4f055d9a372135c.PNG

 

 

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@MarcoV wrote:

 

bet1.PNG.6be714e70d5b8a77dbfae614cb5e5032.PNG               bet2.PNG.08fb9f15a7437ae67f1e3da277acf7ff.PNG

 

 


@MarcoV  Well, that's a pity, however it's not the end of the world. So are you going to add other options to bet on over the next week or is this the final line-up? My funds are "locked and loaded"...:Cool:

Regarding the max stake: The second pic is what I'm getting all the time over the last few weeks, however if you stay below the radar and bet 50 Euro or less, I have always got those bets through. The issue was that I wanted to bet 100 Euro and saw the first pic where you allowed me to place 11 Euro right now and send 89 to be approved. I did that and 40 Euro were accepted and 49 Euro came back (11+40=51, there's the 50 Euro threshold).

Since you declined those 49 Euro,  the Unibet system blocked me from placing another bet on the same outcome, HOWEVER I believe had I just placed 50 Euro to begin with, the bet would have gone through and I could have continued placing bets the next day or so.

Once the o/u and the odds moved, I received a new max stake and could place bets again. In the end, I got a little worse odds with a worse o/u, which I think won't matter in the long run (more on that when I publish my picks next week), however I believe you and your system can do a better job communicating that more clearly.

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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