Elukka12

Thanks @Stubbe-Unibet

Thanks in advance for updating things in this thread.

One question for clarity: Is there a chance I cannot open an Unibet NL account in January? That I will have to wait until the regulation takes place?

Thank you @nightshopper

@Stubbe-Unibet - what is the status of Unibet / Online poker in between? Can I go to the Netherlands and open Unibet account in January and play normally until the reregulation takes effect in September?

This topic is coming relevant to me again now that the end of the year is approaching.

Does anybody know something about the new Dutch regulation next year?

PS: Thank you @wwaanneess
PPS Unfortunately easterdamn has not been active lately. Hopefully not broke!

I understand that Unibet Poker needs to make money, but some tourney rakes are simply outrageous and probably not good for the business either.

Example: I wanna qualify for 50EUR UOS Freezeout so I play a 10 EUR (9+1) satelite (4min level crapshot). If I am a breakeven player I will have to play that qualifier 50/9=5.556 times in order to qualify, on average. Thus, the ticket will cost 55.56EUR. Now, the 50EUR target tournament itself is raked at 45+5 EUR, so I will only get 45 EUR value for my ticket. Thus, as a result, I will pay 55.56/45 = 1.23 i.e. 23% rake for the whole thing!

Previously this didn't bother me because there were number of overlay satelites across the board for UOS. Now that they are mostly gone, it is simply not feasible to play these events.

Tournament rake structures also seem rather random. For example 3 min level Gargle Blaster
is raked at 22.5+2.5 whereas some longer structure re-entry tournaments are more modestly raked. I also find Supernova's 90+10 rather outrageous.

Like I said I am here not to complain 'rake is too high'. It just doesn't make sense how you rake things. A few things to consider:

1) more modestly raked qualifier paths would lead to more success for many new players - to get them excited
2) there should be a correlation between the required skill level and rake (crapshots are raked less)
3) the money you burn for overlays could be more evenly distributed as lower rake if you managed to avoid those overlays. Like I said overlays are already disappearing from the regular schedule so this combined with high initial rake just means that players will pay more.

Thanks @GR1ZZL3R

It is OK when you know it, but something so closely related to gameplay cannot be hidden like that. Escpecially behind an X that universally means leaving indeed. People are hesitant to press because they think it will close the table in an instant. 

First off, congrats for releasing 3.0 in schedule. Indeed, as @Stubbe-Unibet promised, the 3.0 came out before Euro 2020 was played.

This version is definitely an improvement. I have a few questions and comments (possible assessed before, do not have time to go through 33 page thread)
1) where is the sitout button for cashgames?
2) I would appereciated knowing the late reg ending time even before the tournament starts (know when to come home for games in advance)
3) the range of font sizes used is too wide imo. I know they are meant to imply hierarcy/importance but the difference is too much.
4) if you attempt to make the lobby narrower it does not scale properly (does not make Starts or Tournament columns narrower (which are too wide for what they contain) but instead makes everything in the lobby smaller and just adds some more rows).

Anyways, quite happy with this new version.

Thank you!

^ Very well understood.

Anybody outside Unibet any idea on the matter?

Thank you @ReCorpH for informative and quick reply!

Regarding 3) meant that countries such as Belgium and Sweden do not have any promotions anymore. I assume this is because those countries require their own country based licenses(?) that have gotten extremely strict. So basically my question is is there anything in sight that the NL is following the same path - making life increasingly complicated for both operators and players.

As we all know the situation for online poker is miserable in Belgium right now. Since it is a sizable side income for me, and since my other pursuits are treated friendlier there too, I am seriously contemplating the option of moving to the Netherlands.

Have a few questions regarding Unibet in the Netherlands. Maybe @Stubbe-Unibet or somebody else from the team can comment these things.

1) Is Unibet poker available in the NL (I assume so but you can never be too careful)
2) Are all promotion available for NL residents?
3) Are there some Belgian/Swedish type of restrictions in sight for the NL?
4) What is the policy of using Unibet NL account occasionally from Belgium?

I also have some questions regarding poker in the Netherlands at large - in case somebody knows

5) To my knowledge all major poker sites offer their services in the NL. Is this indeed true?
6) Is it true that winnings from EU-based poker operators are considered tax free income - compared to winnings from Holland Casino tax-wise?

Any help with these questions is greatly apperciated!

@Dinutz999

I am not sure if all pokersites should follow the bounty frenzy. Since bounty-pros have a massive edge, recreational players lose their money faster in bounty tournaments than in regular tournaments. This in turn creates less healhty poker economics and worse user experiences for those who actually pay everything.

Special bounty and a rebuy format? Speechless

@Stubbe-Unibet

Regarding the bounty size error I agree with everything you say. From the practical point of view that is. It should not be a big deal. From the juridical perspective, I am not sure. Unibet must have the responsibility to inform the player about all the aspects of the gambling event he or she is about to enter. Thus all the stakes should be off if the gambling event is any different. I would assume that your regulator also requires that. The player is and should be over-protected, compared to what is feasible from the practical point of view.

Back in the old days when I was poor and new to poker I always asked for a refund simply with the reason "the tournament did not run as advertized". Sometimes it was as little as 6max instead of 9max. Nearly always did I receive the buyin back. These days I do not bother doing this anymore. But this over-compensation is simply a smart business strategy because if players in large numbers dismiss the site or start contacting the regulator the site is in much bigger financial problems than the initial over-compensation would cost.

PS: Did not even play the event so no vested interest in the matter

Could not act in the 25EUR Deep Impact (or whatever it was today called). Lost connection with chips slightly above the starting stack and got back at around 20:26 CET with 4bb.

@Stubbe-Unibet

I am quite happy with the MTT compensation I received. It was a bit higher than my equity in the tournaments but I gladly take it because of the stress and annoyance the situation caused.

However, I also played some Banzai 1-2 and it was on and off the original night and the night afterwards. I feel I lost about 3 rounds of blinds (in separate occasions) because I was unable to act. So I would appreciate 9EUR from that.

Really hoping there is a solution to this in the future. Party/Bwin had issues as well but they managed to pause the tourneys for some 20 mins and continue. A similar solution would be great for Unibet as well.

Great news!

Two questions:

Are Belgian players allowed to win leaderboard prizes?

The original DSO ticket is worth 550EUR but the DSO online is only 300EUR. How does that compute?

Looking forward!

Yes! Banzai was on and off also.

Hello,

Is it possible to self-exclude from a particular game type? I woud like to be able to play all forms of poker except Banzai.

Same here.

50EUR Neptune rebuy deep, 50EUR comet deep, 25EUR Abyss deep and now this. I am starting to reach the end of my rope with these disconnections. Not only the aforemention games that I will probably get compensated by but this totally f==ked my game on other sites as well.

Been trying to reconnect for 20 min

^indeed!

When it comes to the tourney schedule, I feel that Unibet played this corona situation rather poorly. Instead of worrying about the guarantees, they should have just added more tournaments to play throughout the day (and night) and across all buying levels. People just wanna play.

@Stubbe-Unibet

Could the 1100EUR Unibet Open Tallinn ticket be used as seat only for later UOs? I currently have a trip to the states scheduled for UO Tallinn dates and therefore I am hesitant to play qualifiers. Of course the chances are my trip will be cancelled and UO Tallinn online will be just perfect.

PS: please add DSO online as well

PPS: please be aggressive in adding a lot more online tourneys to the daily schedule. Online poker is booming right now.

How about an online DSO? Or an ad hoc UOS starting next week? Now that everybody is stuck in their homes and willing to do whatever to kill time. Live poker is essentially at halt at this point. For example Holland Casinos are closed until the end of the month. Excellent time for online operators to strike.

@RayL

I won a DSO seat from the last week's qualifier but, contrary to what is promised in the tournament description, haven't received any info regarding the matter. The upcoming stops are clear-cut from the web page but I still have a lot of questions:

1) How long is the seat valid - do I have to use it this season or perhaps within a year?
2) Can I win multiple seats?
3) Can I use the seat for Belgian Open?
4) How do I register for a particular event?

Regarding the OP's questions I don't think there is ever more than one seat guaranteed. In fact, there tend to be a small overlay most of the time. This is of course nice and 550EUR headsup is fun to play!

Can I have my all-time Banzai results? Thank you!