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@Merenitsu wrote: @DepchZ how did your players get 32 cards, if you were on top of the first 3 weeks. that it is hard to believe in this fact Everyone can check their own results except that player drafts D1-D4 & R1 are not visible to myself at least, but I recall I received no cards in the first days. Regarding the cards for example: Day 6: 4 yellow cards Day 14: 5 yellow cards Then 2 yellow cards etc. in many of the drafts. I am sure if everyone checked their own stats totals it might get surprisingly large. Also regarding that result with yellow cards: I acknowledge that I don't follow soccer that much at all in national league levels so that I don't know all the tendencies of the players nor did I have the will to go and research them that thorough so that has surely affected some of the results. I also many times just tried to play and pick players in a way that I tried to predict that the other ones are picking and try to go an alternative route and pick core players outside of them (many times average, but good if you hit the jackpot and I did get 2 wins in R2 & D10 and a total of 5 top 10 positions, it was a good approach for this payout structure). Sometimes I used some other means as well. There are players who are much more knowledgeable about their soccer. +++ Note to self: My biggest fail was the rest of the tournament picks for the 2 competitions. I went for the underdogs in a go big or go home way feeling secure with the points I already had and not taking in to account how much points others can achieve from them. Then not only I picked the underdog teams but also risky picks there and I did it in both of the tournaments for a double fail, when I perhaps should have just secured them or at least the other one with more safer and alternative picks. That is a good learning experience and a reminder to not get content even in longer competitions where you might feel secure with your points. ps. Merenitsu I also had 4 penalties missed + 1 own goal. =) ... View more

My expectations for tomorrow: Giroud is due for a goal and the best players will start if it's only a minor injury, it's the finals of soccer world cup, can't get much bigger in sports. In hockey players play through broken ribs and minor fractures etc. in the Stanley cup playoffs. Doctors can work miracles and postpone some pain for a duration of couple of hours if it doesn't hurt the performance. Personally: Need big games from Hloris & especially Pogpa & Giroud to get me to top 3+ in this FC comp and thus have a possible spot in top 10 total leaderboard with having a bit more or around 4k points. Looking at the positions the odds are that I will bubble out however (I actually thought of abstaining from playing once I received the big R#2 win getting me to around 4,3k points to secure a place in the top 10 total leaderborard but made decision to rather have fun and play it out courageously and try to achieve more than choose the cowardeous but perhaps smarter option). If I bubble out, it it was a conscious decision and happy about it, but staying positive and still trusting that the universe would rather credit the courageous act. Fun fact: I have so far received 32 yellow cards in all the player drafts combined so far and have no room to get any more tomorrow. I might not be the #1 on that list, but I'm sure there are not many who have received more. ... View more

Oh man, so harsh for Japan! Gl to those who have Belgium guys on their rest of the tournament teams. ... View more

Belgium panic mode engaged! Go Japan! ... View more

@WuDu wrote: @DepchZ wrote: Just to be blunt, the structure itself does nothing to add up luck to the equation of the fantasy manager part. What you think is fair or not fair has nothing to do with luck here. There's a better way to do it to have skill being more recoqnized in the points and we've pretty much all agreed upon that it should definately be at least looked at.   Sure it does, simply by rewarding lucky bounces in a rather excessive way. For the round 2 draft, your team scored 101,83 % of what my team scored (390-383). As a result, you received 175 % of my prize money (175-100). However, the structure itself rewarded you with 250 % of what I received (1875-750) in terms of leaderboard points. For every fantasy point your team scored more than my team, the structure itself gave you 160 leaderboard points.   Perhaps we have been discussing about different things and I misunderstood the post I first replied to. I just made a claim that the luck factor exists in the game of sports, not in the fantasy manager part unless you are totally clueless about the players you have picked. I also wanted to voice out there that there are more skills than knowledge, basic deductions, resources and statistical research, but those other skills might be deemeed as luck to someone who has no real concept of them in their own life. What you are stating here is what we can agree upon. The current structure does reward the luck factor in the sports itself more than a broader payout structure. We agree that there are better models to reward skill consistently in series of competitions.  So this has been just a complaint and feedback on what you perceive as fair and not, not about luck in the fantasy manager part. It just came off in a whiny way for me at start and that's why I misunderstood what you meant. Take care. ps. And yes the new competitions are very tough to figure out. ... View more

@Ray-Unibet wrote: @DepchZ, you are excluded from Casino and in this case I can offer you a Poker Bonus, would that be ok? No it's fine, the exclusion ends later today. We'll see if there's luck in the spins. ... View more

@WuDu wrote: The fantasy structure adds luck to the equation by paying out top heavy points for the leaderboard. With 85 teams playing, even if only a small fraction is competitive, you need to have hit it really well, to reach the top places on the leaderboard. When I decided before round 3, to ignore most players from teams that are already qualified or out of the competition, that's skill. If I realize Joshua Kimmich thinks he's a right winger instead of a defender and has a knack for drawing fouls during this WC, that's skill. If I have to choose between Lukaku and Hazard to play against Panama, that's basically luck. A guy like Wague scoring is bascially luck! However, for the top spots on the leaderboard, you need those lucky bounces to go your way (see Lukaku's replacement in the 59th minute). Just to be blunt, the structure itself does nothing to add up luck to the equation of the fantasy manager part. What you think is fair or not fair has nothing to do with luck here. There's a better way to do it to have skill being more recoqnized in the points and we've pretty much all agreed upon that it should definately be at least looked at. What you explain about the matters of skill in fantasy holds true. Being resourceful and knowledgeable of the sport is very important to perform well in any sorts of betting in the long run and if you have a head that can make some deductions will go a long way. While a small fraction of the players are competitive to your standard at the moment I must also say that there are probably a lot less managers who have no knowledge of the players and teams at all. This gives a lot of room for decent managers who know something about the sport itself and can use google and they are learning more as the tournament progresses. We don't know what made people pick Wague for example, was it from a dream/vision, hunch or just a risk of taking a cheap guy being most likely in the starting lineup and what I'm saying is that all of those are also based on some sort of a personal skill up to even having guts. Having Wague was only a lucky guess if you knew nothing of the sports and picked the player blind. In fantasy managers 'card luck' aka what happens in the field of sports will play a greater role than what card luck does in poker because poker requires more skill. We have methods and ideas to increase the recognition of skill however. But now when I start to think of it more, perhaps community competitions should be more like this and leave the heavy skill recognition part for hopefully upcoming real money plays. Peace out. ... View more

@DelProc wrote: Hi gues.  Tell please what is the date of the fantasy freeroll? When will the result for  Day 8 €100 Draft  ? Thanks. That competition was cancelled and the prize pool was doubled for day 9. Not sure, maybe they added something to the fantasy freeroll of that week as well. The only competitions that are now due for rewards afaik are Round#2 player draft, Round#3 player draft and the D15 comps. [edit] nvm. Not going to speculate about the freeroll. Perhaps sunday. ... View more

@WuDu wrote: @DepchZ Not taking your win away from you, so you don't have to lawyer up on me! Relax, buddy! The race was pretty, pretty close between you, lywyu and my team. Everybody deserved to win and you had some very lucky bounces going your way, I know it and you know it. All I'm saying is that for potential future competitions, and @BonusPater even agrees with me here, the leaderboard points should be distributed in a much fairer way. Just because it's top heavy for everybody, means that's a good thing... Haha, not lawyering up, we're good. I'm all relaxed, close to bliss level nowadays and put pretty much zip emotion level to any internet conversations.    I was bitten by curiousity how you thought the fantasy part has luck involved there. From my perspective you play it safe with expected performers, you have some insight and are knowledgeable of good sources about lineup changes, you take risky picks based on vision, hunch or some knowledge or just whoever out of lack of knowledge but willingness to participate. I think we all agree on that the only one based on luck in fantasy is if you can win without any knowledge of teams and players and that's a rarity. For possible future cups and these longer competitions a broader point distribution will be good, I support that as well. Can't make changes for this one as that would take the mat off from the approach some players have had for a couple of weeks now and I know, no one has requested such, just stated. ... View more

@WuDu wrote: @BonusPater wrote: Not sure what meddling you're referring to, as literally nothing was changed, apart from what's mentioned in my previous post?   I'm not saying the top 10 will be a perfect reflection of skill level - definitely not the case, and don't really think it should be either, as there should be an element of luck - but if you look at the top 15 vs the bottom 15, it's clear that skill is a huge part of the equation. I already said, that the payout structure should be different, so we agree on that Personally I'd have preferred to get completely rid of the pick'em and only have bigger drafts   Mini maniacs, double buy in daily, changing the points for goals scored, etc. The luck factor is already included in the game of football, no need to add to that due to the fantasy structure. In case Unibet and you decide to run something like that again (if it were better thought through I would even play for real money here), keep the fantasy part as difficult and skill based as possible and have a separate, more luck based competition for pick'em games.  What's been going on with the competitions as per fantasy part is no luck, it's set in stone. The point distribution has been what it has been the same for the whole time and competitions created added have been the same for everyone, there is no luck there. What has happened in sports is luck, like you said with the substitution, but I could say the same about some of my yellow cards in the round #2 player draft. Yesterday I had 5 in daily draft btw. talking about bad luck. I tend to do some risky picks, most of the time I do below average with them, but when I get a couple of the risky ones right I get good results then. This method would not make any sense in a point distribution that is more wide spread so I would do another approach as well. ps. One Finnish site actually offers this already, that you can play fantasy against other players in fantasy managers for specific single matches etc. I won't mention names to avoid any advertisement on a rival casino (I don't know would they even offer games in your market though). pps. Not to rush anyone, but talking about round#2 drafts the rewards are still due from that even though it ended before D12, D13, D14 which were given out today. Just mentioning that it has not been forgotten. ... View more

@Nestabear wrote: @BonusPater wrote: @Nestabear, still having this issue?       I am still having issues... When I log in to the Fantasy lobby, I get this...    Then when I click on any of the 2 to enter, I get a blank screen... I have tried in chrome & explorer. I've clear my cookies & rebooted... but still no love. Yesterday was the first time in the competition that I couldn't post my entries  I've had no issues the entire competition & now this, anyone have any ideas or had the same issue & got it fixed ? What if you click on 'login' next to help in the upper tabs? What do you have? You cannot enter the competitions unless you are logged in from there. ... View more

@BonusPater wrote: @DepchZ, I'm with you on most of the things - Technical issues. Everything should have been tested, before launching the promo. Unfortunately there was no time for this (it was a sort of last minute initiative, as I had some spare time before the world cup and thought I could contribute with a great fantasy setup), so it was either doing the usual (pretty boring, compared to the fantasy) thread prediction contests or take the chance with the fantasy plugin. The plugin has been on the market for more than three years, and it seemed pretty professional, so I honestly never anticipated the many issues. I had expected maybe a couple minor issues, which I thought would be okay. - Payout structure. 100 % agree with you on this one. I do want to say that because of the many contests, the leaderboard is a very good reflection of skill level, so not all that bad. Definitely something to change if there'll be a next time - my current situation is a bit special, and I won't have time (nor the desire tbh) to do something like this in the near future. - Point differences. I'm not sure what you mean with this tbh. The payout structure has been the exact same since day 1, the structure being slightly different for pick'em, small drafts and big drafts though, but that's how I think it should be, as the buy-in is different. Sure, there was the double entry one, which was a mistake, but as mentioned above, it was essentially only a single entry, in terms of the prize pool. The buy-in for round contests has been 100, maniac has been 60, daily pick'em 15-25 (depending on no of games) and daily draft has been 30-40 (with the exception of today which I made 50). The point differences in competitions might be a misconception on my behalf then. I picked that up from looking at the 'past entries' and prize pool for each daily draft there as there has been some variation even in relation to the buy-ins. If the total pool is always in relation to the actual bought in points to the competition, then I have no point to make. Anyways thanks for the work put in. ... View more

My honest opinion is that as much fun as the fantasy is, the competition itself feels like it has been a bit rushed in, like an idea that was felt great but wasn't thoroughly tested through. The criticism must not rest on any one sole member as one person particularly has done so much work to keep it together at the moment, so let's be gentle with that. But my criticism is for the following. For the total leaderboard there have been some incosistencies in ways the total points have been given from different comps a few times and for few there have also been questions from the total distribution of them with being so top heavy, which for example has allowed me to be so high in the leaderboards for now for getting lucky a few times instead of being a stable good performer like regularly in the teens (then again I have taken the risky approach more often than the safe stable one), that however is a matter of opinion and it's just something for future discussions. For the overall sensation of the competition we can also add in some experiments and variations within the competitions and the experienced bugs in the platform, which now seem to be behind though. There has also been more yadayada from the competitors as of late because of this overall sensation in the chat thread as there has been more of a culture for mutual feedback. For the company I must emphasize that fantasy manager is great and even this competition and especially this one holds a great promotional value for the future. Fantasy managers have been huge hit in a smaller bubble of sports followers and to make them known and interesting for the more casual sports fans might require some work. My guess here is that the word 'fantasy' might be raising up some eyebrows that it might get totally overlooked as might give an initial sensation of mumbojumbo for some, which might explain some of the lack of the initially expected numbers. But doing a nice recap of all this should be good advertisement for the existing community members as well to attract some new members when the word slowly gets out of this, especially to those who have been to fantasy managers and while a small bubble, still numerous. And tbh. as a member of community it's not about the numbers but the quality of the people. Final word I just hope everyone stays patient as the staff has a lot of work and they're also launching the other big competition in Wimbledon etc. ps. And let's just have fun with this and respect everyone etc. and thanks for all the work. ... View more

@cris1285 wrote: The overall leaderboard is updating automatically, or manually? If manually, i dont wanna rush anyone, im aware its heavy load of work. It's manual work. I'm pretty sure jerry would be top of the leaderboard now with amassing 2,7k points from the double entry D13 daily draft. ... View more

Haha, 4 Yellow cards so far, my personal record for one game day so far. We'll see if there is yet more to come! Well done Sweden & SK, Germany was not itself in this competition. ... View more

As much as it's been an uphill battle with my teams monday, tuesday and today it's nice to see some new names in top of the scoreboards in the live updates though. ... View more

@Nestabearthat screen comes when you are not logged in to the fantasy lobby. Go to fantasy lobby and log in, if it says you're logged in, then it's a problem with your browser. Aka delete cookies, restart browser, go to fantasy lobby and log in again. ... View more

I also don't support the double entry and hope it's only a test for one day now. Has created some confusion for people now. At least I will execute my right to only use 1 team in the daily drafts as it's also smart for me as double entries on consecutive bad days would eat those leaderboard total points down relatively fast. ... View more

@GODJUSTICE@polarbear @BonusPatermade a change so that you can enter the daily draft with two teams if you will for D13. You can read about it in the chat thread. The change makes it so that you still have the 'enter' button there even if you did enter the competition already instead of the 'edit'. Apparently it also gives an error message if you try to enter more than two times. You can edit your team(s) if you click the 'upcoming entries' tab. If you click on the entries button you can see that you are both already signed in twice. ... View more

I think I should avoid playing early weeks as well, hehe. One penalty missed and an own goal so far. But like I said yesterday, you win some and you lose some. It's all good. @gyepedroThe budget changes for every daily draft and so do the positions, same goes for number of players from a team. It's not set on stone, just try it out each day. ... View more

Good luck for round 3. ... View more

@maruni wrote: Maaaan how unfair is that! No prizes for round two pick'em! So you guess 13-14 out of 15 games and you get some fantasy points for leaderboard.I even don't know how many points i have. The leaderboard is where it's all at. That's where the big prizes are for the top 10 as it's a total of €2500 of worth. You can see your balance approximately from transactions tab. For example I was at 1,4k earlier this week, but after getting some luck for a couple of competitions I'm now at 2,2k and making a jump to over 3k to be in a good position. Things can change fast still, even for new players coming in. ... View more

I'll take that good luck and run away with it. But honestly I also had like 13 yellow cards in daily player drafts alone this week, it was pretty crazy early in the week. Have 2 yellow cards in the round 2 draft. :P You get some and you lose some. It can't rain all the time. :] ... View more

@jerry wrote: How many players i could pick from one team for daily 100e yesterday?   Cause i see people with 6 or more picks from one team and i thought there is 4 at most  . Is this changing from competition to competition (im sure i remember there was 4 before)? With 5 players i would surely pick Stones  It's been changing. Some days it was 3 even. Now it seemed like there was no limit (did not try to get more than 6). :] ... View more

@AndreiBN wrote: @BonusPater wrote: @AndreiBN wrote: @BonusPater , All day today,when i try to access the fantasy contests it just gives me a blank page.I can only get to the lobby, afterwords everything i try to access gives me a blank one. Is it only me or is a known bug? @AndreiBN the provider seems to be having some server issues. I experienced the same 2-3 times, but worked after a refresh. Afraid there's not much to do, as it's weekend, but looks like it's working better today Still not working for me today , can reach only the lobby, after that everywhere i wanna go  gives me a blank page, but no worries, it's not like i was fighting for top 10 or something like that  Are you logged in? Delete cookies etc. Because for me it was always just gray and "blank" when I wasn't logged in and tried to get somewhere from the lobby. That you see the lobby also indicates that you are getting data from the server, but after that something goes a miss. ... View more

Realistically I think Pinki has a chance as well, has 4 players playing today so if Kane slips the wrong way and his guys deliver to the fullest he'll surpass me. But in sports anything can happen, even 5 goals from Shibasaki.     ... View more

@Lywyu wrote: Ok, but we don't use FIFA stats? It won't matter. They've been close enough imo. Kane will get 60 points today, but also Mane will get 50+. Your d guys will get total of ~30p. So from my magic hat I'm saying Wudu will be first, me second you third. ps. Should it be real close and up to those 3 points perhaps we can work something out. :] ... View more

@Ray-UnibetI was tied for the 5th position for a long time, but it wasn't the final update after all. In the final update the other 2 pulled 2 points ahead. So I'm out of the prizes with that structure on sole #6. ... View more

Shaqiri with the goal to put me on sole #4 position in daily €100, then yellow card to fall down to split 3 player #5 position, hah. Can't complain anyways, good day for me. Regarding the prizes as we have 3 players on position #5, I suggest that the prizes 5, 6 & 7 are split between us evenly, makes for €15 for all. (Or maybe they will still update, we'll see) ... View more

That is some hefty prize pool for something free & so much fun. GL for everyone, everything is still available even for new entrants and even more so as they start with a clean 2k leaderboard balance and some of us who have played it in the first round and just started the second are way below 2k. :] ... View more