Hello Community, Although this is my first post, I have been reading this forum for a while and I know how "cheating report" threads usually look like. I also understand that collusion in poker may be difficult, if not impossible, to prove. For these reasons I hesitated before posting, but in the end I decided that this case is unusual enough. Even if nothing comes out of this report, Im looking forward to your opinions on these hands. For the record, I mostly play tournaments and sometimes add some SNGs. In 2020 I played a bit over 1000 of them, mostly 4€ ones. This month I finally decided to try 10€ ones and this situation happened in 6th one I played. I probably wouldnt notice it all otherwise. Hand #1 Game #1426795284: Table €10 SNG 5 Seat - 40.00/80.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prize €47.50 - 01:27:59 2021/02/12 *** Seated players *** Seat 1: TimonPumba (1408 ) Seat 4: Psychedelico (3226) Seat 5: ffrreezzee (5366) *** Blinds and button *** ffrreezzee has the button TimonPumba posts small blind 40 Psychedelico posts big blind 80 *** Hole cards *** Dealt to TimonPumba [4s 7h] Dealt to Psychedelico [Jc 6h] Dealt to ffrreezzee [Js 6c] *** Preflop *** ffrreezzee calls 80 TimonPumba folds Psychedelico checks *** Flop *** [8h 2d Kc] Psychedelico bets 200 ffrreezzee calls 200 *** Turn *** [8h 2d Kc] [7s] Psychedelico bets 600 ffrreezzee calls 600 *** River *** [8h 2d Kc] [7s] [Jd] Psychedelico bets 1800 ffrreezzee calls 1800 *** Showdown *** Psychedelico shows [Jc 6h], A Pair of Jacks, tied ffrreezzee shows [Js 6c], A Pair of Jacks, tied Psychedelico wins 2700 from main pot ffrreezzee wins 2700 from main pot This hand alone wouldnt mean much perhaps, but I was very surprised by the way they played it while I was short on bubble. Especially bet and call on turn. Because of this hand and couple others in which they played weirdly (like minraising back and forth), I assumed that they both might be a bit on "maniacal" side and so I decided to tighten up a bit, giving them chance to battle it out. Hand #2 Game #1426796749: Table €10 SNG 5 Seat - 60.00/120.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prize €47.50 - 01:32:56 2021/02/12 *** Seated players *** Seat 1: TimonPumba (1756) Seat 4: Psychedelico (4536) Seat 5: ffrreezzee (3708 ) *** Blinds and button *** TimonPumba has the button Psychedelico posts small blind 60 ffrreezzee posts big blind 120 *** Hole cards *** Dealt to Psychedelico [7h Js] Dealt to ffrreezzee [Jc 7s] Dealt to TimonPumba [Qh 6h] *** Preflop *** TimonPumba folds Psychedelico raises 180 to 240 ffrreezzee raises 240 to 360 Psychedelico raises 240 to 480 ffrreezzee calls 120 *** Flop *** [Kd As Th] Psychedelico bets 960 ffrreezzee calls 960 *** Turn *** [Kd As Th] [Ks] Psychedelico bets 2880 ffrreezzee calls 2268, and is all-in Uncalled bet returned to Psychedelico: 612 *** Showdown *** *** River *** [Kd As Th] [Ks] [Td] Psychedelico shows [7h Js], Two pairs, Kings up, tied ffrreezzee shows [Jc 7s], Two pairs, Kings up, tied ffrreezzee wins 3708 from main pot Psychedelico wins 3708 from main pot This is the hand that made me doubt it all the most. Pretty much all of it. Remember that its on the bubble and I had only 15bb. After seeing these 2 hands and reading my description, you may think that these guys were just crazy, decided to go against each other and by chance went hard twice while holding same hand. That wasnt really the case. We played 3handed for 57 hands and, despite them battling a lot preflop, there were only 3 hands between them that ended in showdown (2 of them you can see above, I will also post 3rd one below, just for the record). Hand #3 Game #1426797122: Table €10 SNG 5 Seat - 60.00/120.00 - No Limit Hold'Em - Total prize €47.50 - 01:34:14 2021/02/12 *** Seated players *** Seat 1: TimonPumba (1576) Seat 4: Psychedelico (4596) Seat 5: ffrreezzee (3828 ) *** Blinds and button *** TimonPumba has the button Psychedelico posts small blind 60 ffrreezzee posts big blind 120 *** Hole cards *** Dealt to Psychedelico [Ad Kd] Dealt to ffrreezzee [As Th] Dealt to TimonPumba [Jc 5s] *** Preflop *** TimonPumba folds Psychedelico raises 180 to 240 ffrreezzee raises 480 to 600 Psychedelico calls 360 *** Flop *** [Qc Ts 4h] Psychedelico checks ffrreezzee bets 900 Psychedelico calls 900 *** Turn *** [Qc Ts 4h] [4d] Psychedelico checks ffrreezzee checks *** River *** [Qc Ts 4h] [4d] [2h] Psychedelico checks ffrreezzee checks *** Showdown *** Psychedelico shows [Ad Kd], A Pair of Fours ffrreezzee shows [As Th], Two pairs, Tens up ffrreezzee wins 3000 I initally didnt even plan to add any comment to this hand and post it just so you can see all 3 showdown hands, but its interesting one too. Freeze's AT raise preflop might actually be argument against collusion, because why would he raise if he knew Psycho had AK. My question for this hand would be: why Psycho didnt reraise preflop with AKs if 80 seconds earlier he did with J7o and even got a loose call from another J7o? Again, 57 hands 3handed and only 3 showdowns. I played enough of poker to know that sometimes variance can be insane and produce unreal stories. Perhaps its just another case of it. I wonder what odds would Unibet put to two random guys deciding to both go for crazy bluffs and hero calls, on the bubble, with exactly same hands, twice, within 5 minutes. All while playing aggressive preflop and conservative postflop in remaining 93% of 3handed hands, keeping decent balance between their stacks at all times. Either way, looking forward to opinions on hands, especially 2nd. Maybe there is just huge skill gap between 4€ and 10€ and I have to adjust.
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