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@Unibet-Cédrick ah okay this makes sense (clicking on it going back to the last visited page). Why was this changed, because the MTT lobbies remain open as tabs an you can just click on them if you want to check s.th.? But before I knew about this other shortcut, I didn't know how to return to the main MTT lobby. However, if this is how it's intended to be, then it works just fine. I guess in this case you dont need a logfile? regards

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Does this mean the Sunday Entitled will be replaced? if so, what happens to leftover tickets? looks very promising

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Thanks alot @DavidP_Unibet for your elaborate response. I was ofc purposely painting a very dark picture with my OP trying to get a discussion started (not trying to present Unibet/kindred as the impersonation of evil, nor start a conspiracy or anything). So far I have usually been complimenting on the things Unibet did that I appreciated a lot (their HUD-free approach, refundings at server downtimes or lately the big refund wave when that big 50K mtt was buggy), so I felt I should also express when I see a development that I don't like. To be fair, I missed out on your point of the betting freerolls for instance, which (can) get sports bettors interested into playing playing poker and yes, this way of cross selling players was there first (apart from casino hotlink on poker tables), so It's a valid point. About the whole milk the cow phrase, which apparently r ubbed you the wrong way: this was not only meant to be provocative (well, to some extend yes sry ) or stating a definitve truth. I was having the past developments of other poker sites on mind, when it comes to implementing more and more casino incentives into their clients, which I personally never liked. Partypoker underwent this way back in the day, and as someone who has been observing the development of pokerstars in the recent years, I might be hypersensitive when it comes to this. I know u can't really compare unibetpoker to stars which was poker only from the beginning, but watching this ship gradually sink from the POV of a pokerplayer was and is sad thing, and I simply don't want unibet to go this way and I'm happily being proved wrong. I mean ask me 8 years ago what the most trustworthy & ethical pokersite is and I am definitely saying stars. Right now I am saying that about Unibet also, and I know having a casino bonus as a poker reward once isn't gonna flip the script. But is it a one-time thing, is it gonna stay like that or is there even coming more stuff like that?! How am I supposed to know that, of course I don't. I just want the players to have second thoughts about changes and I love that Unibet has a platform where such topics can be discussed and where officials actually respond to the players concerns, if a paranoid freak like me comes around However, ''i ncluding Casino as part of the Poker client as a massive benefit to the growth of the platform'' i just dont see the logic behind it. How can you assure that? I see the cross-selling from betting to poker and vice versa through the betting freeroll, but there? You don't have to download the client to play casino games and i guess most ppl don't?! And I'm pretty sure you're gonna have a hard time finding the poker hotbuttons on casino tablegames, so how is this not going to be a one-sided thing?! Am I missing something here? Cheers, Tillus

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hey @Balonas I appreciate anyone who takes part in the discussion and you obviously have a valid point. If there weren't any winning regs, losing players would go broke less quickly and thus the poker site would make more money. As casino games are unbeatable anyway, we can leave this out. When it comes to betting you are a 100% right I guess (sites not likeing these players). By that I mean consistantly winning players or players who place surebets. Don't know how Unibet handles such players. Their sportbookreview.com rating went from B+ entering the rating in '08 down to C- in 2014 and has been upgraded to B early this year. Some operators set the betting limits super low or have a bookie confirm any bet (and mostly decline), or super hard cashout requirements are imposed (like clearing x-times the deposit amount with the new very low betting limits) or some shady sitessimply close the acc. and at times even seize funds (not saying Unibet does this often, but they seem to lack a bit of transparency when money is being withheld). I don't really do sportsbetting so somebody else might have a more profound evaluation of this. When it comes to poker however, I think your view is too one-sided. They obviously don't 'love' regs but they don't hate same per se, because they need them in a way. Especially a site like Unibet had to work a lot with affiliates at the start of their standalone client to get a decent player base. Not all of these players are winning players ofc but some are gonna be regs who are winning anyway and receiving additional rakeback in some form or the other. But these players help immensly filling the tables and we all know that recreationals don't like to wait for a game. Same goes for tournaments, where the funplayer has his eyes on the (top) prize and without multitabling regs some MTTs on unibet wouldn't even start and the GTD would be much lowever, which means the tournaments looks much less attractive to recreational players. As to all Unibet employees receiving huge bonuses, I doubt so. Obviously this depends on the rank of the employee in question. Generally, market-placed companies have some kind of a pyramid-system with regards to boni. That is, the lower levels of employees receiving little to nothing (maybe a watch or a mont blanc pen and sh1t) and the boni for high-ranked employees, esp. in the management being exponentially higher. I mean we are talking about a company that is on the stock market, so obviously their goal (or that of the management) is to increase shareholder value and thus increasing the value of the company, the money of the shareholders, their own boni and not primarily sharing with their fellow employees. Often it's exactly the opposite, increasing shareholder value by cutting personnel costs, dismissing/saving employees, lowering wagers, outsourcing etc.

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"The Kindred Group’s poker product is the fastest growing licensed poker network in the industry. The Unibet Open live poker series took place in Copenhagen in May and had over 1,000 entries, building up a total prize pool of over EUR 500,000. In June, Kindred won the “Innovation in Poker” award at the prestigious industry event EGR Operator Marketing and Innovation Awards." Sounds great, doesn't it? Much of this is due to Unibet's initially unique approach when launching their standalone network (no HUDs, rake policy etc.), marketing strategies & good value for small stakes players (low rake, deposit boni, rewards via missions) In the beginning of their launch Unibet did a lot to attract new players. While first deposit bonus has been lowered for a while now from €500 to €200 this isn't really the point, as small stakes players could hardly ever achieve the full amount of the prior bonus offer. Whilst the bonus was lowered, missions continued to offer great value for small stakes players (i.e. the foundation of any poker platform) Until recently. In the past months the value of missions has gone down continuously. I already posted my take on that matter in this thread: https://www.unibetcommunity.com/t5/General-Poker/August-poker-promotions/m-p/103681 Responding to a complaint from a player about the value of the Mission Freerolls, @Jeppe-Unibet stated the following: "Doubt it (making missions harder), unless we get the same sentiment from a bunch of players. Until then, the Poker team has set the criteria how they see it being best for most possible players and according to previous feedback" Until this month, I could still somehow comprehend how s.o. could justify these changes with the sake of considering 'poker ecology' in its broadest sense. But then they shot the sheriff imo this month with Mission2 ''You have received free spins, Hot Sync free spins''. First I thought it were free spins for this King Of Flips thing. But no, it's actually for a casino slot. There's just no f***in way you can anymore argue with poker ecology by replacing formerly poker boni/tickets with casino rewards. And I'm not talking about a loss of value here, which in theory probably isn't that relevant. Don't know if/how much decrease of value it is as opposed to a 1€ SNG/MTT ticket as these slots probably pay out about 92.5% when you bet in the smallest denomination. So, it might actually be the same value as Unibet gets fee back from the previous poker tickets. But of course we know this is actually about lureing poker players into the casino, getting them hooked on slots/casino games in general and letting them donk off their rolls in the online casino. This obviously tends to happen much faster than when playing poker, so lol@keeping the money in the system as long as possible (esp. that of losing players, which usually have tilt problems anyway and which is why they are doomed entering the casino from the getgo), with the benefit of Unibet reaping in all the profit and no winning players having a share of the money lost. This doesn't come as a complete surprise however, when looking at the current numbers of the kindred group: They are doing great since the past few years, all revenue numbers on the rise. Especially the quarterly % numbers of the poker branch increasing. Despite the revenue from poker constantly going up, the percentage share of poker revenue with regard to the entire revenue has actually gone down since Q1 2016. With 2% the poker branch is basically irrelevant for the company, except for its marketing potential (Social Media, twitch, UnibetOpen) and the poker player base being seen as potential future customers for more profitable branches as casino & betting. I don't know where these changes come from. Maybe the management is demanding more aggressive casino/betting marketing/advertisement within the poker branch to increase their entire revenue (as if the annoying casino buttons on the tables weren't enough already?!). But as someone who has been playing online poker for over 10 years now, this looks to me like ''we've now built up as solid base, let's go ahead and milk it for all it's worth'' Sure, some of you might think I am exaggerating and that this isn't as big of a deal. But these recent developments hint towards a direction which is troublesome to me as a poker player. Wouldn't mind a statement from someone of poker staff on this behalf. Please don't turn Unibet Poker into a 2nd Amaya! Don't screw up the trust of the players and the positive developments of the past few years. I as a player, would like to see Unibet Poker grow and I am definitely sure that casino games within the poker branch is not the way to go. What do you guys think?

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I earned the "Hot Sync free spins" today via mission, but when i open this flipping table it says ''you are out of spins bla" What's up with that?! o_O

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these odds are pretty moist bruh, @WuDu simply can't except players who bet against the odds and succeed... unless it's if they bet on trumps presidency (hillary got more votes, cmon!)

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I've been to four UO stops so far, and yes I'm not autothrized from the staff and what not, but be reassured that Unibet is actually providing you a full package in case you've actually won one. In fact, I've even once somehow managed to not respond the mail where you pick the starting day and thus automatically was picked for Day 1A (obviously meant to play Day 1B). Had all kinds of problem at the hotel and casino because of that, but Unibet staff was always there to help me out. I can only give you my personal opinion, but i think that you can 100% book your flight and feel safe that you'll arrive at the hotel and everything will be pre-arranged. Just make sure you answered the mail where you pick the starting day, otherwise a ton of missunderstandings might occur i can tell you But even so, back then @DavidP_Unibet was there to help me out before he became head of poker. Thx for that david in case you remember, I was the lost german guy in copenhagen 2016.

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this is a tournament for the unibet staff so unfortunately, no!

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pretty common functionality ...now you're making me feel bad again. On the other hand, it eases me that I appear not to be the only person whose sleeping patterns are f***ed up atm

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mind = blown all this time playing on unibet i never noticed that. Thx alot @NMPfan now i feel almost stupid for reporting this However.. there might be a few more ppl as dumb as me out there (i know, i know..hard to imagine) but imagine a recreational player busting out of a tournament, trying to register a new one, not being able to. And moving back to spins on stars out of frustration. I JUST DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA!

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No honestly, cool you're joining the party. Good luck in the tournaments! Seriously, i mean it! l

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Since the latest update i am regularly encountering this bug. Clicking on the arrow that usually takes u back to the main mtt-lobby (marked in red on image) has no effect after all. It usually happens after playing for a couple of hours. In the beginning it mostly works fine, but sometimes also requires mashing the arrow 3-4 times before it actually works. Before the update I never had this kinda problem. Sucks for an MTT-player because I often can't keep regging MTTs ingame. Only thing that seems to be working is closing the client and starting it again (which is obviously not a solution at all). I use win7 64bit in case this is relevant...

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hijacked for the sake of hijacking! looking forward to some donkalicious action boys & girls!

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@Jeppe-Unibet I f*cked up as well today. Apparently missclicked when trying to change my alias to tillus and played under the alias ''6ixFtOver". Not in the 4€ one tho where i busted ootm, but obv in the 10€ version where i got 3rd lul

Tillus · ‎12-08-2017

You'd have to such a monkey to be willing to play over 200k sngs ...oh wait! Did you only play turbo sngs on party back in the day? Played a bit of regspeed sngs as well back then when wih tdan89 and the likes when two-figure ROIs were a certainty. Good ole times )

Tillus · ‎11-08-2017

it's only a freeroll mate and not some inherent necessity being taking away from you, keep calm and try not to be such a tool @liver ...oh wait!

Tillus · ‎11-08-2017

This has actually been an issue for over a year at least... as much as i love unibet, but this is becoming ludicrous. Has been reported about a gazillion times

Tillus · ‎10-08-2017

This depends highly on your winrate imo Here's a good read about it: http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/03/nlhe_6m_pros/ Also bare in mind the rake on unibet increasing as you move up in stakes as opposed to many other sites (or the past): https://www.unibet.eu/help/products/poker/poker-rake-and-fees Obviously you (usually) can't simply convert your winrate to the higher stakes as the games become somewhat tougher. Let's say you go from a pre-rake 10BB/100 winner on NL4, to being a 4BB/100 winner on NL10 you're actually gonna make less money. So it'll only make sense if your winrate isn't decreasing too much as you move up in stakes. I would recommend calculating your winrate over a decent samplesize and then think for yourself how much risk your willing to take considering standard deviation and your willingness to move back down in stakes if it goes wrong, because otherwise disaster is bound to happen. GL mate!

Tillus · ‎09-08-2017

This reminds me of the good ole days, when I used to spin up rolls from nothing as well. However there were freerolls all the time on every site (huuge fields tho). I remember making it HU in a partypoker freeroll with over 12k players. Software wasn't made for these fields in those days so we both had over 200BBs hu lol because we had reached the last blindlvl the software provided. Battled for over an hour still and of course i would get 2nd. Outlasting 12k ppl payed a whopping 20$ or sth Keep the grind on the mind i guess, seems like u got what it takes GLGL!

Tillus · ‎04-08-2017

hehe I would not like this change

Tillus · ‎04-08-2017

Hard to say if this is actually better from a 'poker ecological' standpoint for rec/losing players than the old format of the missions. I don't really think so, but I understand why Unibet is taking this route. I sometimes have the feeling some of you guys tend to forget that Unibet's purpose is not to provide maxEV for ambitious small stakes grinders who hardly ever deposit anyway, but to make money as a company. I mean someone mentioned January of this year, where they gave away 18€ value in Pts/tickets if you completed all 5 missions. Sure I'd prefer this as well obviously, but simply compare it to this month rewards: 3€ in pts, and ~6,50€ per player in freeroll value. That's cutting almost 50% costs for Unibet, plus Bonus points have the benefitial effect that it encourages players to remain with Unibet and amass more points in order to convert it into a more benefitial Bonus let's say. So unless the number of completed missions goes down significantly thus showing costumers are not anymore encouraged to play more/certain games to complete the missions, I see no reason why Unibet should change their marketing strategy on this.

Tillus · ‎04-08-2017

Oh man what a bummer, I feel with you Sadly, despite spending way to much time in front of the computer i actually have hardly any clue how these frickin machines work. So I guess all there is left for me is to wish you good luck and that you find a solution eventually. Stay strong mate!

Tillus · ‎04-08-2017

Highly agree on this as well. Especially now that you can observe any table and say the shortstack ist all-in being called and is behind pre/on the flop, you can just snipe insta-reg and take advantage of the situation. I guess the only way to solve this, is to disable regging on the bubble, while a player is all-in. And even this won't solve it entirely but may reduce the profability of snipe-regging. Still, a player could wait for a shortstack to be heavily commited postflop in a multiway pot or sth, but thats not as useful as the complete information one gets when he is actually all-in pre and the cards are flipped over. Reminds me of the frustrating situations in €250UO Final Qualifiers. Different topic tho, yet very annoying. When on final two tables let's say with a moneyjump from a €250ticket (buyinback) to the 2Kpackage (i mean this is a 1.75k money jump after all) there was no hand-for-hand. Extremely unfair if you were on the table will lesser players and maybe even the shortstack. Has been reported many times i think, anyone know if this has been fixed?

Tillus · ‎02-08-2017

How do you even whisper in twitch?

Tillus · ‎01-08-2017

'' In case of a Tie, the winner will be drawn on stream'' just wondering.. so in case 2 players tie for 1st. How would this work, loser of the draw shifts down to 2nd place prize, 3rd place to 4th prize etc?! i mean surely you don't just lose the draw in such a case an get nothing?

Tillus · ‎01-08-2017

I'd like to get my all time SNG/MTT results if that's possible thx in advance!

Tillus · ‎27-07-2017

lul did he river set KK or what? Cant see him cback flop too often with double gutter QT mhh I'm paying off like a slot machine here

Tillus · ‎16-07-2017

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