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The Tournament Schedule - Ideas for Improvement

After Unibet introduced the new schedule a year ago the site is no more primarily cash-game oriented. The new tournaments are way more diverse in blind-structure, starting stacks, buy-ins, in various formats and are given witty names within a common cosmic theme.
The change were proven success and the players are increasing every month as well the guarantees.

However I have some suggestions which should provide even more diversity and I think will appeal to the other MTT grinders.
As a regular player of almost all €1-€10 buy-in tournaments and sometimes even the more expensive ones up to the €100 weekly Supernova my observations/suggestions are:

1.There are no 9 seat €10 buy-in tourneys except Sputnik which is R/A and despite the great structure is way too expensive for most players which usually play the €10 freezeouts or bounties.
So i propose few €10 freezeouts, bounties or even reentries(all 9-seat) to be implemented into the schedule.

2. As mentioned above Sputnik has great structure or at least an interesting and refreshing one. So I think the introduction of €1, €2 and €5 buy-in versions to be very well received by the lower limits players

3.The €5 buy-in tournaments are way more than this with €2 buy-in and especially compared to the €10 ones. And when their start is too close as with €200 Wormhole and €100 Deep Space Fireball(only 15min. interval) it leads to not enough players in one of them sometimes. This happens rarely but there should be 1 tourney instead of 2
or maybe different buy-ins.

4.After Cosmic Rays was replaced by the Exoplanet there is no 9 seat major except the Supernova while the players preferring full-ring are roughly as much as the fans of 6-max.

5. Another thing which seems strange is that there is daily €50 buy-in Sputnik, but no €50 freezeout. Considering the potential cost of R/A it often gets more expensive than the Supernova. The other problem with the lack of €50 daily non-rebuy is that a player with €50 ticket have to wait for the Milky Way in Saturday in order to use it properly.

These are mine observations, 3 and 5 were brought to my attention by posts of fellow members and I guess many of the players share the same opinion on some of these ideas.

I find the "new" schedule almost perfect, nevertheless there is always a room for improvement. Also it will be nice if the regular players here express their views on the subject, as Unibet is well-known for listening and often implementing our recommendations.

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Rank 22
Rank 22

I looked in the lobby this morning purely at tourneys with a buy in of 2e or less. I'm basically looking for tourneys with a deeper structure wher you're not down to 10bb in no time- or levels- at all, and there don't seem to be many of those around. Most of the turbos or normal you're down to 10bb- depending on not losing too many chips early- on level 8 9 or 10 after about 30-40 mins play, there are onl 3 deep ones in this price range but 8 or so at 5e or higher. I know sites want money turning over and don't want players in one tourney at small stakes for too long, but feel there ought to be a few more lower priced ones for us that don't like the bang bang style that seems to be increasing everywhere.Smile

Rank 18

@pinki  @GR1ZZL3R  totally agree that adding few €1 and €2 with better structure will be great.

I find the 8min. levels - and 3000 starting stack 15/30 4 at 1st level the best. It is not too shallow, but not too deep when only 3-4 players are left and especially in the heads-up which happens in these with larger starting  stack. 

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Rank 22

@GR1ZZL3R I know sites want money turning over and don't want players in one tourney at small stakes for too long,

 


But on the other hand you will have people who will be able to build abankroll more easily, and then you will see them on higher stakes.(5-25euro).  I know couples people :  when they have on Unibet 50euro+ on micros,  no decent mtts on 1-2euro  and they withdraw ... go on Stars:  big 1.1-2.2, bounty builders 1.1-3.3, even 10min levels 1-2$SNGs... they are not grinders with 10-12+ tables but they want to play a few tournaments for entertainment in the evening . 

Offer on nano, 1-2euro, 5-10euro etc. should be similar in my opinion,  now you have one or two huge gaps .

Rank 22

one thing :  Unibet should look for solutions to add to the field some decent players/no bingo players, do not scare those with a serious approach.  Bigger field, bigger prize pools but still small field and easier to get a final table than on larger pokerooms... Maybe the obstacle is technical problems/bigger traffic ... i saw many glitches during UOS ...  

Witout tagging players deeper stack/decent levels lets me meet players at the table. In this crazy nanos i can lose 1/3stack with crazy players on the beginning , i have more tme to observe them ...

That's why I think that introducing older nano's brothers on micros is good idea +  couples bounty MTTs with decent stack like Ice Giant bounty  or 5Euro Shooting...

Rank 22

I agree with all the above @GothMoth and @pinki It's finding the structure where your not down to push or fold too soon. Even in the UK qualifiers you can find the last 8 chasing 2-3 tickets with 10 bb average and I feel there's very little skill involved at this stage, except maybe knowing your push fold ranges better than the next guy. I'm not saying I'd be better in deeper tourneys, just that it would give players more chance to use that little bit more skill. I think slightly deeper nanos would be nice to have a go at, I know you're never going to get rich playing them but they might be a little better paced for an old plodder like me.Rofl

Rank 22

Maybe some changes  coming ...  who knows :Cool  

I think a few words in this matter  from @Leo-Unibet or  @Jeppe-Unibet would be interesting Jazzhands

 

 

Rank 22
@GR1ZZL3R Even in the UK qualifiers you can find the last 8 chasing 2-3 tickets with 10 bb average and I feel there's very little skill involved 

Agree Smile Destroy this flips !! start  decent quaifiers with 20.000 starting stack/10min level  and 0.25 buy-ins  Geek maybe a little exaggerated but you know what's going on Smile

Rank 22

I agree @pinki I know it's only 1e buy in but ultimately it is for a much higher stake tourney and seems to be the one that can fire more bullets will win in the end because of the quick structure, they bang their money all in and move onto the next one, playing 1-2 per day you're not going to win as many as someone firing 7-8 times. I feel as though commited to playing too loose or else you just run out of chips too quickly, and to me time isn't an issue, so slower build ups would suit me fine.Smile

Rank 22

@GR1ZZL3R  do not forget a lot of them playing for free (from flip).  It also has a big impact on the players' approach. this is propably similar situations to Nanos (money earned from bounties in freerolls) or Wormhole/Singularity after 18:15 Bounty Freeroll  Scared

Rank 22

True @pinki I had forgotten ther's a lot of ways to get free tickets which I suppose does make a difference in agression factors. Wonder

Rank 22

@GR1ZZL3R  I created a thread once about freerolls. In short: delete bounties from them, add  ie. 0.25e/0.5e tickets (even some places with 2x0.25 or smth - to consider ) . if you put in more effort in something then maybe the approach will be different. and you have a varied paid places ladder.  ITM pressure exists Smile 

Quaifiers: 0.25e->1euro MTT/UK/UO ... 0.5e->2euro. you can spent them in Nanos also...what suits you Smile

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@pinki @GR1ZZL3R @GothMoth

Thanks alot @GothMoth. I really appriciated that you took your time to give me such constructive feedbacks. Some of those suggestions were already on the way, they were on the to-do for the autume. Here's my answer to your bullets, the changes will take place with in a week.

1. €800 Event Horizon (6-handed)  will be replaced by €1,000 Dark Matter (9-handed)

2. €200 Wormhole 8:00pm UK will be replaced by  €400 Spitnik €5 buyin

3.  You are correct, the 15 minutes betweek Wormhole and Deep Space Fireball don't work good as one of them sometimes not start, that's bad. The "Deep Space Fireball" has to go, will be removed from the schedule.

4. You are right, Exoplanet will change to 9-handed

5 We will from Monday introduce a €50 freezeout at 6pm UK   "€2,000 Comet"

Rank 10

I want To add something to this brilliant analysis. All the low buy-in tournaments are in the end of the day, should be interesting for people who are more "day-player" to add some low buy-in tournaments during the afternoon. I would enjoy this so much!

Rank 18

This is great! Looking forward to play the new tournaments @Leo-Unibet  Smile

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Rank 18

If you find a spot for 1 more 9 seat 10 tournament it will be even greater  @Leo-Unibet  Smile

With the new €1,000 Dark Matter and the €500 Astroid(fix the description) 9 seat NLHE ones with this buy-in are only 4 and one of them the €200 Singularity(which I forgot to mention in my first post) starts at 1:00 CET which is a little bit too late as sometimes it doesn't start.

Maybe if the start time isn't at exactly at :00 it will be better as many players like to register at the last moment and the break prevent them from doing so.

Also there are 4 people needed for it to start and often there are only 3 registered. 

I think 9-seat €10 Shooting Star bounty(8min. levels 3000 starting stack preferably Smile) will be very popular, as there is no 9 seat bounty tourney with this buy-in.

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Also @Leo-Unibet about the name of the new tourney isn't Asteroid the right one?

I saw there is a term astroid, but it's a mathematical one Wonder

Rank 18

@Leo-Unibet  I have an idea regarding the Falling Star Bounty tournaments: the starting stack to be 100bb (3 000) as it was before. I realise that you want the Shooting/Falling Star to be distinctive, so 2500/600 , 6/8mins, 6/9seat is the current format. However with the starting stack doubled and often over 100 entrants the tourneys last too long. Considering the reduced min.cash prize it's too long for the money. And when HU it's simply boring with stacks ~40-50BB... 

Maybe bringing back the level duration to 4 min. esp. for the €1-€2 buy-in is another way to make those tournaments more attractive.

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@GothMoth wrote:

After Unibet introduced the new schedule a year ago the site is no more primarily cash-game oriented. The new tournaments are way more diverse in blind-structure, starting stacks, buy-ins, in various formats and are given witty names within a common cosmic theme.
The change were proven success and the players are increasing every month as well the guarantees.

However I have some suggestions which should provide even more diversity and I think will appeal to the other MTT grinders.
As a regular player of almost all €1-€10 buy-in tournaments and sometimes even the more expensive ones up to the €100 weekly Supernova my observations/suggestions are:

1.There are no 9 seat €10 buy-in tourneys except Sputnik which is R/A and despite the great structure is way too expensive for most players which usually play the €10 freezeouts or bounties.
So i propose few €10 freezeouts, bounties or even reentries(all 9-seat) to be implemented into the schedule.

2. As mentioned above Sputnik has great structure or at least an interesting and refreshing one. So I think the introduction of €1, €2 and €5 buy-in versions to be very well received by the lower limits players

3.The €5 buy-in tournaments are way more than this with €2 buy-in and especially compared to the €10 ones. And when their start is too close as with €200 Wormhole and €100 Deep Space Fireball(only 15min. interval) it leads to not enough players in one of them sometimes. This happens rarely but there should be 1 tourney instead of 2
or maybe different buy-ins.

4.After Cosmic Rays was replaced by the Exoplanet there is no 9 seat major except the Supernova while the players preferring full-ring are roughly as much as the fans of 6-max.

5. Another thing which seems strange is that there is daily €50 buy-in Sputnik, but no €50 freezeout. Considering the potential cost of R/A it often gets more expensive than the Supernova. The other problem with the lack of €50 daily non-rebuy is that a player with €50 ticket have to wait for the Milky Way in Saturday in order to use it properly.

These are mine observations, 3 and 5 were brought to my attention by posts of fellow members and I guess many of the players share the same opinion on some of these ideas.

I find the "new" schedule almost perfect, nevertheless there is always a room for improvement. Also it will be nice if the regular players here express their views on the subject, as Unibet is well-known for listening and often implementing our recommendations.


 

@GothMoth  Hi, I had a look at Falling and to some extent agree with you that some of them had to long run time, especially  the €200 at 18:45CET which with plus 300 players run +5,5h , I lowered the start stack to 4,000, this will help a bit to make is a bit shorter.
Many of the Falling runs about 4-4,5h , which I think it's a good runtime on a tournament, but I listen to you this time and adjusted.
Don't take that for granted in the future Smile

Rank 17

@Leo-Unibet  any chance for returning so-popular Survivor format after Easter day ? Secret

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