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@centavra wrote:

@FreedoMAll those who aren't millionaires you think are idiots? But you can't understand your mind!


This is what you took from what i've said :dissatisfied:, i mean c'mon bro, you don;t drop any data, you don;t exploit it.

What you expect me to say, omg you cracked the matrix without any proof. Idk why i did write in the first place, sorry. :annoyed:

Have a nice weekend. :lovekiss: :inlove:

 

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If youre questioning the randomness on unibet poker, just want you to know youre not the only one. 59% roi turbo grinder back in the day, and cant find 1 winning session on this site against the worst players ive ever faced, caused by card outcome. For months sessions here and there.

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@FreedoM It really is pointless commenting in these sorts of threads, ( I'm just answering you ) but as you correctly point out if @centavra has spotted a flaw in the RNG all he has to do is play aggressively and he will always win. Simples really, don't know why none of us has come up with this before now. 🤣

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@GR1ZZL3R And where does it say that aggressive play leads to victory? I said kata comes better than when you play passively. And it is done not to win aggressive, but to make the game a gamble to those who introduce more money! Repeatedly in mtt there are bad players who collect a lot of chips doing all-in, naturally it ends and they lose. So don't be smart

 

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@GR1ZZL3R  smart ass. In that post I did not say that play aggressively and you will win, I said that the card changes which comes with aggressive play and passively. This can be verified by comparing your cards! 30-40 handouts when you only raise and when only call and pass

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@centavra 

I shouldn't really be answering this because it is just another thread adding to the probably thousands already discussing this subject, where those that don't believe the RNG is random will never be convinced otherwise. 

" I said that the card changes which comes with aggressive play and passively"                  How do you know it changed? There isn't a box there that shows what would have come if you'd played a different way, so that is just an opinion  which can never be proved or disproved. 

"This can be verified by comparing your cards!"                                                                           No it can't. You're comparing cards from different hands played differently that have no relationship to each other.

" 30-40 handouts when you only raise and when only call and pass"                                       An absolutely laughably ridiculously small sample size that has no statistical meaning whatsoever. 

" smart ass "                                                                                                                                       Name calling because someone disagrees with your opinion is an absolute 100% guarantee that your losing an argument. This has been verified by 7,056,231 statistical surveys, a sample size much larger than yours and just  about as reliable.

 

I don't know wether you're a winning or losing player, you haven't said, but poker can be a very frustrating game, and losing players tend to look for someone or something to blame rather than their own performance. Please don't fall into this trap like many before you, it's hard enough to play well and make a profit as it is, without being distracted by things we have no control over. Concentrate on what you can control and hopefully good results will follow. 👍

 

 

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@GR1ZZL3ROf course I draw conclusions on a lot more games. I agree that 30-40 is not enough, but even by this number notice patterns... You can play different days of 30-40 handouts, assign points to the strength of the card and count the amounts in passive and active games. I am not a lost player and I play in different rooms and in different rooms there are features, in UNIBET the one that described. And I believe that generators of ALL rooms should be tested not only by one and several independent companies issuing licenses!

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@centavra  I have to admit that I'm as guilty as anyone at trying to see patterns, but have realised over the years that they probably exist only in our imagination. My favourite You-Tuber of the moment is Mathew Parker, "Standupmaths" where he shows if you look hard enough at enough data you will inevitably find patterns, but these are statistically insignificant. We can all play 5,000 hands and never see AA then get them 3 times in 10 hands but these numbers are meaningless over the long run, which is the only way to look at poker results. It would be more surprising if we never saw freakish results from time to time and card distribution was perfectly even. 

RNG's are tested regularly, but where do you draw the line?  Even if they were tested by 5 independant auditors some would still insist all these companies were working with each other and fixing the results, so we have to accept things are fair or we just wouldn't play. I'm glad to hear this isn't a typical rant by a losing player, and can only repeat, think about what you can control and forget the rest, it's far less stressful. 👍

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@centavra wrote:

And I am not claiming here that UNIBET is doing so to steal money, perhaps their goal was to make the game more saturated with combinations and faster! But the impact on cards shouldn't be when playing on real money


Just want to confirm this is obviously not the case and we'd never get local licenses nor get the RNG verified by independent 3rd parties, if it was the case :)

Can only repeat what's previously been said in this thread.

- The RNG is on the providers end and it's tested by at least one independent company

- In order to get the game licensed in local markets, the game(s) will usually have to be checked and approved by the local regulator

- The provider doesn't benefit from a rigged RNG in any way, and neither do we - we make money from the rake/fee and don't care who wins

- Poker makes up 2-3 % of our gross winnings revenue (and Relax obviously make quite a bit of money on casino games and bingo as well). Why on earth would we risk the entire business - if we were found to have offered a rigged poker game for years we'd very likely lose our licenses - by not having a proper RNG in place? Again, we don't really benefit from a RNG that doesn't work.

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I expressed my point of view and for me it is more important than the opinion of the room which will speak software not they developed, and licenses will be issued by honest and independent companies. And always surprised "players" who protect poker rooms have several thousand posts, you what bonuses give for it or you employees of these companies. I wish everyone success and will be paid on merit.

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@centavra wrote:

I expressed my point of view and for me it is more important than the opinion of the room which will speak software not they developed, and licenses will be issued by honest and independent companies. And always surprised "players" who protect poker rooms have several thousand posts, you what bonuses give for it or you employees of these companies. I wish everyone success and will be paid on merit.


Sorry to sink to this level, but never has the below gif been more relevant.

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Licenses are issued by "honest and independent" companies? Why would the Danish, Belgian, Romanian, British etc. gambling authorities approve the games, if they were indeed rigged?

You believe more in your own personal feelings than facts and believe that anyone disagreeing with you is being paid by Unibet. I can assure you that neither @GR1ZZL3R or @FreedoM is on the Unibet payroll :)

I've already wasted enough time in this thread, so I'll leave it up to the "players" paid by us to "argue" against you ;)

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Licenses are issued by "honest and independent" companies? Why would the Danish, Belgian, Romanian, British etc. gambling authorities approve the games, if they were indeed rigged?

 


Why don't you have slovak, hungarian, swiss, polish etc gambling licence if you aren't rigged?

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haven't read all of this thread but c'mon it is dumb...

 

Whether taking X amount of time effects things etc, what on earth does this matter?

People complaingin abut the RNG just beacause are just plain odd

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@Stubbe-Unibet wrote:


@centavra wrote:

I expressed my point of view and for me it is more important than the opinion of the room which will speak software not they developed, and licenses will be issued by honest and independent companies. And always surprised "players" who protect poker rooms have several thousand posts, you what bonuses give for it or you employees of these companies. I wish everyone success and will be paid on merit.


Sorry to sink to this level, but never has the below gif been more relevant.

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Licenses are issued by "honest and independent" companies? Why would the Danish, Belgian, Romanian, British etc. gambling authorities approve the games, if they were indeed rigged?

You believe more in your own personal feelings than facts and believe that anyone disagreeing with you is being paid by Unibet. I can assure you that neither @GR1ZZL3R or @FreedoM is on the Unibet payroll :)

I've already wasted enough time in this thread, so I'll leave it up to the "players" paid by us to "argue" against you ;)


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