Do you overestimate your Poker Abilities?

[Magicadil]

Do you have a determining factor to how good you truly are? If this based on results/time spent studying/natural abilities?

Do you constantly seek advice, or look for ways to advance your Poker game?

Or are you self taught, & adapt to different game types the longer you play.

[jonny2192]

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@Magicadil wrote:

Do you have a determining factor to how good you truly are? If this based on results/time spent studying/natural abilities?

Do you constantly seek advice, or look for ways to advance your Poker game?

Or are you self taught, & adapt to different game types the longer you play.

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The bottom one for me, with the odd moments of realisation when watching the unibet twitch streams.

I find it easier to learn by doing.

[DaVitsche]

99.9% of all players on the globe overestimate their poker abilities :)

 

It is nearly impossible to quantify how good you actually are, and therefor you assume you're on the higest part of your estimation spectrum

[jonny2192]

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@DaVitsche wrote:

99.9% of all players on the globe overestimate their poker abilities :)

 

It is nearly impossible to quantify how good you actually are, and therefor you assume you're on the higest part of your estimation spectrum

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I assume that till I hear @Jamie-Unibet or you explaining poker than I feel I know nothing :(

[startelver]

I  do not seek a lot of advice , I just play the way I feel is right.

I'm a tournament player so patience is the key here. And to be able to read your players correctly, if you want to get away with your aggresive play.  I know I'm a winning player in the long run so thats good enough for me. 

[Valkyrie]

I can't say I overerstimate my abilities, but I trust my own instincts more than any expert advice. As long as my way of playing wins me the pot, I'm happy. :smileyhappy:

[Ramaraider]

The wonderful thing about poker is through practice, game selection and money management you only have to be good enough at certain times, in a certain situations to win. Winning in poker is ending up with more money than you started with at that particular session for cash games. Knowing when to quit your session will produce consistent wins and minimal losses.

The only ability I am concerned with is booking steady winnings sessions through discipled money management. Pick the right game and you only need a 3-5% edge like the casinos to make steady profit.

[Zipfil]

Have no idea about the topic but I prefer IRL Poker because then I can play the player also, it always up my odds of winning after some rounds xD

[psrquack]

I play at NL4. Overestimate? Never! There is no smaller limit.:smileylol:

[Amiga500DK]

Poker is based on self-deception. Someone at the table has to overestimate their ability. If noone overestimated their ability there would be no game.

[DaVitsche]

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@Ramaraider wrote:

The wonderful thing about poker is through practice, game selection and money management you only have to be good enough at certain times, in a certain situations to win.

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This is a very important point, you don't have to be the best player in the world, you just need to have a positive winrate on your actual table.

[ArtyMcFly]

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@DaVitsche wrote:

99.9% of all players on the globe overestimate their poker abilities :)

It is nearly impossible to quantify how good you actually are, and therefor you assume you're on the higest part of your estimation spectrum

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This.

The poker economy largely functions because of the Dunning-Kruger effect. It's the cognitive bias that leads 70% of people to believe they are "better than average" at driving, for example.

If you ignore the luck factor in poker, you can only make money by playing against people who are underskilled. Since most people think they are better than they actually are, there are always some soft spots in a game. Most of the best players in the world are actually quite humble, and recognise that they have room for improvement. The moment you think you've got nothing left to learn, you're toast.

[pirahn]

My problem is not so much over estimating my ability but under estimating gods ability to poke fun at my expense.

[daddy]

I think i underestimate my poker skills

[Magicadil]

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@nelutzu wrote:

I think i underestimate my poker skills

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That might be a good thing. Stay humble in victory, my friend. :smileyhappy:

[JokerKings]

There IS a very simple way to quantify skill.  

It is called winrate (usually calculated in BB/100) - The greater sample size you have the greater the accuracy of the calculation.

However, I do agree "99.9% of all players on the globe overestimate their poker abilities" :)

[JokerKings]

Yes!  

As soon as you stop learning it's over :)

[gillvs77]

Nope :smileyindifferent:

[Magicadil]

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@JokerKings wrote:

Yes!  

As soon as you stop learning it's over :)

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When learning it's important you're reviewing new & updated material, as there is a lot of false information out there as well.

[radge1]

McFly...i may be a crap poker player but I am a great driver...how dare you use science against me! :robotwink:

[FreedoM]

Yeah like everybody i have times when i overestimate my abilities but the nice thing about poker is like in life you get brutal kicks in your nuts to make u stay humble! And beside that it helps to work at your game outside the table, it keeps you more sharp! #praysthegodsofluck

[radge1]

I suspect I'm pretty average at poker...when I started playing online, about 10 years ago, I lost a lot (at Full Tilt mostly) because I assumed I was bound to be a natural and was just getting unlucky...over the years my game has improved through practical experience (I've never read a book on poker or studied concepts) and better management of myself ( ie walking away before tilting/not playing when drunk etc).

Since playing at Unibet I have consistently made small profits every month, I suspect this is because I play small stakes and max the "Unibet love" from Missions, twitch etc. 

I'm probably over cautious due to early setbacks but really enjoy my poker at Unibet and feel as if getting to UK Tour and Unibet Open tourneys is at least possible...thanks Unibet!       

[Magicadil]

The competition has gotten extremely tough online since everyone has access to training tools, & the average person is smarter than they used to be. For me personally, I find live a lot more profitable, but online infinitely more fun. It's very easy to overestimate your skills online. I would guess a lot of people are closer to 'average.'

[nutpeddler]

In hindsight, years ago when I played more I probably overestimated my skills at least a little.

These days I think a have a pretty realistic idea of my skills: I'm an average player at the lowest microstakes. In other words I'm actually pretty bad. :smileylol: That suits me just fine, though, since now I only play for fun. Consequently I no longer make a conscious effort of improving my game, perhaps I still improve a bit simply by playing, but that's really hard to try to evaluate.

In poker, it's deceptively easy to think that you're better than you really are, because short term results can be good simply by chance. For example I played a few sit 'n gos fot the first time and won half of them, so if I were fresh of the boat I might think I'm a natural in them. But when I actually think about the big hands that knocked people out, I put my chips in as a clear underdog multiple times and simply lucked out in a major way.

[Magicadil]

 Are you happy with the stakes you're at, or is it due to time restriction that you don't try to improve your game? For me personally, I have too much going on throughout the day that even if I wanted to pursue poker professionally, the studying aspect would force me to remove other things in my life. I might one day consider it, but for now I'm content being a recreational player :smileyvery-happy: