Challenge for Belgians !!??

[Stubbe-Unibet]

I can't say when we'll have significant improvements ready in this area, but I really hope we can do something about it next year.

As I've mentioned before, rakeback/monetary rewards aren't an option, and if Stars are still giving chests, I believe this can only be because the Belgian regulator doesn't know - yes, that does sound really odd, but not impossible

Anyway, what we can do is lower the rake or have a sort of built-in rakeback in the shape of a game mechanic (like splash the pot). Next month we'll be having a promo with 0 fee/rake on higher stakes SNG's, which is something that works in Belgium as well - Belgium is one of the reasons we're not doing 100% rakeback but 0% rake.

[wwaanneess]

@Jeroenvg  give it up bro

btw: pokerstars with that juicy 2% rakeback you can exchange for giftcards where you pay another x % fee on ! that's really something alright!

[waffel]

Can we at least have the avatars when the month is over? Not that it's that important, but it's not a form of rakeback giving avatars.

[Lerre]

Still Nothing.

Just close your poker markets for Belgian players if you want to give us such a big disadvantage.

Disgraceful!

[iitztekto]

pffff i think i gonna switch to vpn!!!!  erverything in our country is blocked its not nice to be on the belgian servers......... why ????

[wwaanneess]

@Lerre belgian government is a disgrace, that's true, but stop blaming unibet, they can't help it, right?

@iitztekto probably the worst thing you can do

[iitztekto]

yeah i d ont blame unibet for it  its not their fault that our goverment is stupid even on csgo we cant open packages anymore its crazy ......... 

[Lerre]

they can find a way, just as they find a way to offer sportbook boosts or free tickets, just as bwin gives away free wpt tickets, ...

Even the weakest lawyer could find a hole in this ruling.

For example: poker does get taxed here as income, opposite to casino games.

This fact alone is more then enough to claim that the ruling does not apply to Belgian poker players.

they have dissapointed their belgian community, fair and simple.

[JeppeL]

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@Jeroenvg wrote:

@wwaanneess 

Unibet should do something: 

1) Give us a perspective when this will be solved

2) Talk to their community and involve us in the process what can be done with this legislation. 

Pokerstars is still giving chests, isn't the gambling aspect of chests much higher and more addictive then louter rakeback? Talk to pokerstars why can they still give some form of rake-back? 

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In the long-term I think no-rake-back/promotion is n't good for poker, this will kill the dream of poker and the network effect. 

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@Jeroenvg Care to explain a bit more on the bolded? Personally I love the idea of Stubbe and the Poker crew doing no rake SNGs for the next while, som am wondering why you'd think they end up as being bad for poker.

@Lerre It hurts to hear you say that as that's obviously never what we want to have happen. When creating promotions, we have to follow the guidelines of our Legal department as we have no interest in operating in a way that disregards local law and regulation, both because of potential fines as well as the fact that we'd like to have a positive connection with the different authoratives in all the countries we operate.

[Jeroenvg]

@JeppeL

What I mean about is that the true ambassadors of Poker are the people who are actually winning at the games. Without winning players the game will be destroyed.