joebanan Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Hi guysI asked this question on a previous thread but didn,t get an answerI read somewhere that they do run on a random number generator but not sure oif that applied to all slots and sites.Normally when i,ve had a big win i tend to leave it and vice - versa - If i,ve not had a win for ages i think its more due but if its done on an RNG then this shouldn,t matter.ThxP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicadil Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 RNG yes and each slot has a certain payback %, which is the average you should be getting back over a large quantity of spins. I debateShould I smile like everything's good and pretend that life is greatOr should I let the world see the real me and not hide this painI tried to be like the rest of y'all, sorry I just can'tI'ma probably die this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushbie Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 @joebanan wrote: Hi guysI asked this question on a previous thread but didn,t get an answerI read somewhere that they do run on a random number generator but not sure oif that applied to all slots and sites.Normally when i,ve had a big win i tend to leave it and vice - versa - If i,ve not had a win for ages i think its more due but if its done on an RNG then this shouldn,t matter.ThxP @joebanan, I think you can find lots of interesting things to read and learn about slots on here 😃 https://bestnetentcasino.info/en/win/cycles-payments-netent-video-slots Useful stuff to know for others too :Wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik-Unibet Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 @joebananHi!All slots you will find on the site comes from a range of suppliers. Each supplier has certified their RNG in respective jurisdicition, for instance being Malta, UK or Denmark. Each individual slot is also tested and certified (by independant third party, there is several companies offering that service) before it is approved to go live. Each game has its own mathematics including aspects such as base game RTP distribution, feature hit rate and so on. However, each slot uses the same certified RNG (that sits on the server level) but the individual math in the game dictates the game's theoretical RTP.For players who might not be used to the terminology:RNG = Random Number GeneratorRTP = Return to playerIf you are interested in learning more about how a slot machine is constructed and how to think about the math aspect there are several guides on the internet. A basic one can be found here https://vegasclick.com/games/slots/how-they-workCheers, Fredrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebanan Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 Each game has its own mathematics including aspects such as base game RTP distribution, feature hit rate and so on. However, each slot uses the same certified RNG (that sits on the server level) but the individual math in the game dictates the game's theoretical RTP. Cheers Fred - it all sounds a bit complicating thoughbasically if i get a big win on a game - is it less likely to give another - more likely or the same ? on the next spinSo in poker for example i could hit a royal flush and i would have exactly the same chance of hitting a royal flush the next hand - is that the same for slots? p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsAF Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 @joebananYes it is :)The RTP is calculated based on all different aspects of the game. (Or better, all aspects are set to result in a specified RTP)So in the long run normally this RTP would be attained, but in theory, the RTP could be higher for some time period (or lower). I see now that the circumstances of ones birth are irrelevant... It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horacewood Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It is not an RNG as casinos claim, it is a PRNG, a Pseudo RNG. It is called a Pseudo RNG because the randomness is actually limited by the RTP, making it not so random anymore. Slots are designed so that players lose money and some really lucky ones win sometimes. Physical slot machines are rarely messed with, there is almost no need for that since they bring in tons of money. However, there is absolutely no evidence to support the fact that online slots cannot be rigged and paybacks changed at the will of the owners. Respectable casinos (the ones that use crypto currencies, mostly dice games) give you the possibility of checking the randomness of your bets which makes it provably fair. Online casinos like netbet, unibet, maxbet, admiral, etc however do not give you this option, therefore there is no evidence of the fairness (although we all should know casinos are as fair as politicians). Untill now, out of all online casinos that i mentioned above, Unibet and maxbet have the worst payback i've encountered. Hundreds of rolls with absolutely tiny wins on games that payback on other online casinos (at least in 500 rolls, you'll get a decent win, maybe a comeback) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Horacewood Thanks you for the laugh. You take home the medal for the stupidest post with most ridiculous and wrong statements 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @testuser1 wrote: @Horacewood Thanks you for the laugh. You take home the medal for the stupidest post with most ridiculous and wrong statements 🤣It wasn´t all wrong.... "Slots are designed so that players lose money and some really lucky ones win sometimes." Nose hit Sherlock :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horacewood Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @testuser1 Enlighten me, all knowing god of online slots, tell me what is absurd and stupid. Will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebanan Posted December 22, 2017 Author Share Posted December 22, 2017 I still think when you,ve had a few big wins or one big win - the chances of winning again in the next few spins are less likely than if you,ve not had a win for ages - It seems that way anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUnibet Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 This is the lowest paying site i`ve ever played on. over the course of maybe 5 months ive been doing weekly deposit of about 100$ and i only managed once to win over 200x. And i have cashed out 2 times in that time. once for 30£ and once for 90£. Last f***ing time i play on uni❤️♥️❤️Edit by Jeppe-Unibet: Removed baseless accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny2192 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 @FUnibetHi and welcome to the forum.You seem to have posted in the wrong section.We have a special thread for this type of conversationJonnys-and-Psrquacks-talk-crap-thread-so-we-dont-de-rail-other threads You can exchange UO tickets again all is unicorns and rainbows in Unibet land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XY Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Hi guys,last few days spended watching some twitch streamers plays casino slots.What I noticed is that there is some promotion going on,where when you wager full 200€,it instantly trigger bonus game (12 free rounds). Game is "white rabbit".What gives me to think is,how can system find and put out combo that includes 3 white rabbits? Isnt that "prearranged spin"? Doesn't that gives suspisious of fixing? Also,in some other games you have option to "buy a package" for x amount of money you get x spins. Example: 20€-5 spinsCan someone explain me what is the difference between that "package" than setting wager per spins by user and using auto-spin? Couldn't that "package" also be "prearranged" (fixed)? Do I see it completly wrong as I am not casino player?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------@testuser1 I know this is your territory. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayL Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Hi @XY, I had a word with the guys over at Casino and I am afraid that I couldn't get more info on the 200€ instant trigger bonus game question. Could you be more speciffic with it?As for the "Buy a Bonus feature", the initial first spin that grants you the 3 rabbits is more like a visual confirmation of the already bought spins. It will always contain 3 White Rabbits, so basically as soon as you bought the Bonus round you are set with the spins, what follows is only a visual reprezentation of the Bonus feature triggering :)There were some points that I didn't realy understand, sorry for that, so if my initial response does not answer your question please let me know and if possible give a bit more detailed explanation./Ray Former Community Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XY Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Yes,sorry about that extra job @RayL. 👼Forgot to mention that games are not played on Unibet,but other online casino site/s.Have no idea of the names.Understood about a "false spin". 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purps Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 @XY wrote: Forgot to mention that games are not played on Unibet,but other online casino site/s.Have no idea of the names.I've seen one guy play those on Twitch. He calls them "big bet machines/games".Monopoly is one, Jekyll and Hyde is another one... there's some more too but I can't remember more names either.... Not a huge fan of those slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 @XY wrote: Hi guys,last few days spended watching some twitch streamers plays casino slots.What I noticed is that there is some promotion going on,where when you wager full 200€,it instantly trigger bonus game (12 free rounds). Game is "white rabbit".What gives me to think is,how can system find and put out combo that includes 3 white rabbits? Isnt that "prearranged spin"? Doesn't that gives suspisious of fixing? Also,in some other games you have option to "buy a package" for x amount of money you get x spins. Example: 20€-5 spinsCan someone explain me what is the difference between that "package" than setting wager per spins by user and using auto-spin? Couldn't that "package" also be "prearranged" (fixed)? Do I see it completly wrong as I am not casino player?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------@testuser1 I know this is your territory. 😃@XY as Ray explains above, the White Rabbit feature is just about the visuals. They could also just start the game, without showing a spin, and tbh I don't really get why they've added that visual feature :) So yeah, it is a "prearranged spin" in the sense that you're always going to get the three rabbits, but you shouldn't consider it a "normal" spin.I'm not sure about the buy a package feature. Do you mean BB (big bets), or is there really something slot related I haven't heard about? :DI can't claim to know the mechanics for all of the providers, but for at least some of them, when you win a bonus round, it's predetermined how much you're going to win, and it doesn't matter if you pick chest/rock/ball 2, 3 and 9 or 1, 4 and 5 - Blueprint Gaming is a good example. I'm not really sure what to think about this myself. From a mathematical pov, I couldn't care less, but when it comes to the entertainment, it certainly doesn't do any good. I think a lot - probably the vast majority - of casino players believe their actions will make a difference, and who can blame them, when the providers actually present them with multiple choices :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XY Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Thanks for reply @testuser1,I see.Yeah,could be those "big bets".What is the difference between taking one of those than ones that we set up and play (by pressing or by auto-play),if we bet same amount? Is it,maybe,possible to bet more (higher the chip) with those than "usual stile"?I get you about "chose the card" actions,belive that it is psychologically.Like,they gave you a choise to get you belive you made decision,not system. Similar to,ohh that symbol was right there (close),but reality is that you were XY como far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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