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Poker not dead yet; I think this is my best or second best ever session of sng's, about 3 hours of play on Wednesday evening.

Sample=67
Avg buyin= €28.4
ROI=66%
€/game=€18.67
Total profit=€1251

A few 100s ran which is always nice, plus a decent number of 50s, and I ran incredibly hot.

Thought I'd start ranking the regs for fun, I think all these guys are probably making money in the games, so they can't be that bad. If you've got a name of a reg at 10 euros or higher that you want included in the rankings, let me know, I'll try to add to it each week, these are just a few names that I could think of today.  Any that you think I've got ranked in the wrong place?

1. MUL
2. N-B-A
3. Caladrias
4. IBringLight
5. IanSimpson
6. DownwithOPP
7. Kroll

MUL is far and away the best player on this list in my opinion, I'd rank myself second in the player pool just behind him, he only really plays the 50s and thankfully not every day.

IanSimpson has a really tough gig, obviously he can't change his screen name as part of his deal (why anyone voluntarily keeps the same screen name I will never know), and he streams so I can very quickly identify all his leaks. I do think it's great to have someone streaming sngs, but wow, you get to see some pretty glaring holes in his game (which obv I won't go into, really not in my interest). He's not a sng pro as he would acknowledge so fair play to him for getting involved. 

Kroll is a huge spot and it's great to have him at my table, but still he's probably making money (I hope so, he's been grinding the games a while now), so good luck to him.

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You're playing 22 games an hour?  What's your overall ROI with SNG10s and SNG25s? Ever played with the idea of reducing the # of games to increase your profitability and to stay fresh?

Great idea to rank some of the regs, looking forward to it regarding the SnG 10s.

I recognized NBA, kroll and IanSimpson, not impressed by any of them.What about Ashlee_2007 and hotted? :atisfied:

What about posting some of your used up aliases?

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@WuDu, ive not decided yet if I want to reveal my roi at the higher buyins (didn't mind so much with the 4s since I don't play them anymore). 

Ha, this is me reducing my table count. I used to play somewhere in the mid-20s when I could use other software on stars, and yeah it would burn me out after a couple hours session.  Im playing 12-14 on unibet, and I'm very comfortable with that, any less and I'd get bored.  It helps that the player pool is pretty small at 25+ so I can get reads on all the players quite easily, was certainly guessing a lot more in the past when I was adding €4 games to my table count.

ill try to add Ashlee_2007 if I keep seeing him, hotted is a gamer, so he's a recreational player, don't think it's very fair to put him on the list. 

I change aliases multiple times a session, I've never played under the same alias for more than a few hours, so not that interesting to post my old ones, I was bpm123 for a bit tonight. 

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A typical day on Unibet.

I play something in the region of 150-180 5max sngs. I only play €10+ games, and I multitable 12-14 tables. I've  cut this back from what I was doing , and I've seen a big improvement in my hourly rate as a result which is a nice surprise. Back in the day on stars I used to play around 24 tables, so this seems sedate in comparison, gives me a lot of time to get reads on players, obv this is important in the HUD-less Unibet environment. Also can play longer sessions, used to burn out after couple hours, regularly doing 4h+ sessions recently. Not bad for an old timer.

I probably play about 6 hours a day, almost always play Monday-Wednesday, take Thursdays off and play around my social life over the weekend. Evenings obviously are best, as the higher stakes games run, try to reg almost every game at €25+.

I do almost no study these days, maybe couple hours a week, usually running through a spot that I feel I've been getting wrong, or double checking a ludicrous play from another reg to make sure they've lost their mind and not me. Never have studied much, used to post in 2+2 STT forum a fair bit, that's dead these days. Joined a training site for a month, those vids helped me get to sleep of an evening. Had maybe 5 hours coaching lifetime. I'm slowly working through Tipton's expert HUNL, and just downloaded the free version of PIOsolver, anyone using this for sngs, worth buying?

Ranking the regs: In with a bullet, and at the very bottom of the rankings, the return of Mikink0. Haven't seen him for a while but he's back, he multitables a lot, usually all the 25s and 50s, and at the same time of day as kroll, fun tables. Wish I could say more about some of these guys but obv would harm me to do so and isn't very fair on them, just pay close attention, my top tip.

1. MUL
2. N-B-A
3. Caladrias
4. iamswen
5. IBringLight
6. IanSimpson
7. DownwithOPP
8. Kroll
9. Mikink0

 

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Planning on mixing in some Unibet MTT’s alongside the sng grind now that the new schedule looks very good value. I find this really hard to do, playing even one MTT takes a huge amount of my focus; they’re such different games I’m concerned that my sng play will be adversely effected.

I’m trying to calculate my hourly rate in the Sunday majors on Unibet, late regging to maximise hourly.

€100 Supernova; 20%ROI; 2 hours avg; €10/hour
€250 UO final; 10% ROI, 1 hour avg; €25/hour
€50+€50 Odyssey; 20% ROI; 1.5 hours avg; €13.3/hour

Maybe these numbers are off, I’m really not sure. I intend to cut my sng table count down when I’m playing MTTs, from 12-14 down to 6-8 to help my focus overall. Even so, should achieve a higher hourly rate this way.

I definitely make more mistakes in mtts, played the €100 Saturday Stack the other week and managed to go from chiplead with 12 left to bubbling in 10th in totally avoidable fashion, that was special.

SNGs went really well last month, only played about 3 weeks, results not including rakeback etc,

Abi €24.7
Number of games 2295
Profit/game €3.22
ROI 13%
+€7401

I’m down a few hundred so far in October, hot run can’t last forever.

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Off to Malta next week for a couple of weeks. Get away from the British weather, and I’ve got an apartment near the casinos so planning on playing some live cash, a handful of live tourneys, and some online sng grind in between.

The Battle of Malta series is on, so will be playing that, looks like a great tournament, €550 buyin, huge field expected. Been playing a few mtts on Unibet recently, no results worth speaking of but found a few common spots where I’m lost, so will do a bit of work on that before Malta. SNGs are a really fantastic training ground for MTTs in general; obviously I’m very biased but I tend to think a “good” sng reg is considerably better in mtts than a “good” mtt reg.

Still, things like how much antes change our range in full ring mtts, our opening range from EP full ring and how best to respond to EP opens are things I need to work on.

Been a great week at sngs, 100s are running a bit more often, games in general seem to have decent liquidity for an hour or so later in the evening than I’m used to. 

Considering doing a free coaching giveaway, not sure how best to coach on unibet without hh, if anyone’s got any ideas how best to do this, please let me know.

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@monkeyheaven wrote:

games in general seem to have decent liquidity for an hour or so later in the evening than I’m used to. 

 


At the SNG25s late at night? You're welcome...:laugh:

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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Awesome blog man. Really inspiring read. I have recently came to unibet after becoming sick of heads up hypers on stars which I've played on and off over the past couple of years with okay results at 7s and 15s most of my games were 7s though.

 

I intended to play only hu at unibet but I'm not a huge fan of the larger stacks which is essentially a turbo and not a hyper which in used too. Plus I have already fallen in love with the 5 max games now so planning on grinding up through the stakes if possible!

 

Coaching freeroll  sounds Awesome! Do you coach in general btw or is this just something you want to try out? 

What would you recommend for brm for the smaller stakes on unibet €4 games specifically?

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Thanks @UAC, if you’re planning on starting out at the 5max €4s, and you were a longterm winner at $7 hu hypers on stars, you’ll be the best player in that player pool. HU is probably the most important skill in these games, you’ll be getting hu much more often than in the usual 6max format, and you’ll be deeper on average, it’s very common to be 25bb effective or more at hu, which you’ll be very familiar with. Study ICM a bit and you will crush. 

I quite like the idea of coaching somebody up a couple of buyin levels, as a challenge for myself, but seems kinda tricky to coach on Unibet without hh.

Difficult to say about brm, depends on your roi, and how much risk you’re prepared to take. There’s software out there that can model it.  I don’t play the 4s anymore, but was getting about 12% ROI, and based on my results in other games, was probably running a few % below ev in these games.

Good luck in the games, sure I’ll see you at the higher games once you’ve grinded your way there.  

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Been in Malta for a week now, nice place, beautiful weather, a lot of St Julians seems to cater to lowest common denominator drunk brits abroad which is unfortunate, and also probably quite hypocritical since I’m a Brit and I’ve got drunk on every night I’ve been out.

Got an Airbnb in St Julian’s, had to move since they were demolishing the building next door to mine, my apartment was literally shaking from the work every 7am.

Played 3 live mtts, about 5 hours live cash and maybe 7 or 8 hours online sngs. +€200 live cash, +€700 sngs, -€900 live mtts.

Some interesting spots in the mtts, interesting to me at least since I don’t play too many mtts so I’m always questioning my play. Having seen the standard of play I’m very sure I’m in the top 5% of these fields, in spite of possibly butchering a few hands each day:

Redbet €200; mid final day, I’ve got about 90k, bit below avg. MP fish opens to 5.3k off 40k stack at 1k/2k/200, I 3bet to 15k with QQ from CO, villain flats. Dry ace high flop, he checks, I shove for 25k effective into 34k pot, he calls AJs. Definitely messed this up, think my 3bet should be a little smaller to induce more flats and shoves. Flops a clear checkback, was just so baffled in game when he didn’t get it in pre, and figured at time I’m probably never folding if he bets. If he ever bets it’s never with worse as I block a lot of the broadways he might peel and attempt to bluff, and his mid pocket pairs just try to get to showdown and I don’t need to protect my equity here.

Redbet €200, bustout hand. MP nit minraises and I shove 20bb on btn with ATo, he calls AJo. I’m happier with this hand, villain had been openshoving all his nutted hands (he’d shoved 40bb with QQ earlier, apparently was doing similar with AA on day 1), so we can take those hands out of his range. Minraise looks very weak from this playertype, think I found the only hand he plays this way that has me in bad shape. 12th/71 for €0.

Played €550 Battle of Malta day 1A yesterday, late regged half way through level 3, very first hand I’m dealt into big blind with 25k starting stack at 100/200/25. Utg limps, good aggro Italian (I played with him in a tournament earlier in the week) raises to 625 from co, btn calls, I 3bet AKo to 2500, utg shoves 14k, back to me, I fold. Think it’s ok, my 3bet possibly should be a little bigger. Think I run into AA here a lot.

BofM, down to 16k, utg opens to 800 at 150/300/25, I 3bet utg+1 with JJ to 2.5k, he shoves for my effective stack. I fold. Probably should flat pre, no reads on player he just sat.

Bustout hand BoM, I open 99 utg to 900 at 200/400, the good aggro Italian 3bets CO to 2.6k, I shove for 30bb total, he calls AA. This seems close, he definitely has bluffs here, dunno.

Battle of Malta day 1B in a few hours, lot of tough spots, second best hands and failed bluffs yesterday, hopefully a bit better luck with card distribution today, tournament seems very soft overall. Any thoughts on those hands appreciated.

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Hey ,am, thanks for the response. Yeah I played around 5k 7s heads up on stars with a decent(ish) win rate, like 53% itm... Intended to play hu on unibet but idk don't like the structure and prefer the 5 mans now I think. Agree with you completely on hu in these. People play pretty bad and stacks are often deep enough for a lot of play for someone with my experience hu.

ICM is definitely something I need to look at, as I think 3 handed is probably where I am making my most errors after my first sample of games. I seem to be pushing too hard and seems people have really tight shoving ranges 3 handed, so i am just playing almost every hand lol.

Well, if you can come up with a decent way of doing it (no ideas mysef right now either), I would definitely be up for some coaching as I am looking to take these games seriously and move up the ranks with the vieww of making some decent money at the higher levels if possible.

On to the hands from Malta, pretty much agree with your thoughts. QQ hand could maybe 3b to 11/12k, but having said that the hands these players cal with doesn't really change much with sizing, so getting him to call a little more pre with a strong ahnd isn't such a bad thing. But yeah, once you get to the flop you must check as they're never folding any A and never bluffing there either, so may aswell try bink your two outer.

The ATo hand is close I would say, depending on just how nitty he is, but again most of these players are folding to resteals way too much even thogh they are probably opening tighter than we thnk it is still good. Especially if h has like an awkward stack size of 30-40bb where your stack is a big chunk of his chips.

Ak hand is wp imo, sizing is okay too. Once UTG limp shoves he always has you crushed.

JJ hand 3b fold or just flatting is okay with your stack size I thik. Hard not to be results orientated, but 3b here wins the pot a lot of times and stops you going 4-5 way to the flop alot too. 

99 hand is another close spot, tough really, I guess it really depends on how he percieves you. Although he is aggro and getting in 99 with 30bb can't be too bad, if he sees you as decent he will know you UTG opening rnage from a 30bb stack is strong and a lot of those hands you will be prepared to 4b jam

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Think that’s me done with live mtts for this trip. Battle of Malta day 1B went better (or worse, if you value time, which I do) than 1A. Still bust last level of the day.  Was a 12 hour day and I was pretty exhausted by the end of it, probably wouldn’t have played if I knew how many levels they were fitting into one day.  

Folded for about 3 hours straight to start the day, just terrible starting hands and 10 handed poker. Pulled a fairly ridiculous double barrel bluff for all of it with king high because I figured my image was worlds biggest nit at that point, I was correct, got villain to fold aces face up.   Then ran into some great spots that played themselves from my perspective and got up to 3x average.  Didn’t get much more go my way from then.

Bustout hand, last level of the day, blinds 1.2/2.4k/300. I open utg to 5k with AQs from 100k stack, btn new to the table 3bets  to 17k from 100k, I shove, he calls AKo.  This seems like another tough spot to me, I think it’s either a very standard shove vs some opponents and a very easy fold vs others, or a call?!?   Readless I just don’t know, have a tough time with these early position plays, I just don’t study mtts at all, don’t run into these spots in sngs.  

Next, Playing Manchester Unibet UK tour in December as I’ve got a ticket.

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Gonna do a coaching freeroll.  

Conditions: you need to post your interest in this thread including why you want to get coaching, and you need to PM me your 5max sng results for Oct 2017 (go to the help thread and request your results from unibet).  You need good spoken English. 

What you get: teamviewer sessions where I watch your play and give you feedback, all the secret sauce.  Available on whatsapp for any specific questions. Im not the greatest ever, but I’m the biggest 5max sng winner on unibet, so I don’t suck.  This is coaching for 5max sng’s only.  

Mainly doing this as a challenge to myself. 

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I’m the biggest 5max sng winner on unibet


😏 How do you know with anonymous tables and without sharkscope?

 

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Fair question.

Historically I’ve been the highest volume player on any site I’ve played, it’s definitely no different on unibet, I doubt anyone else is close. It’s quite possible I play double the volume of the number 2 player on unibet. 

I know my results, I’m crushing, am I winning more per game than anyone else, I don’t know, but I play in these games every day, I see the skill level of the other regs, I am probably the biggest per game winner. 

Yes, the site is essentially anonymous but a lot of players don’t change names, and those that do are easily identifiable through their play style if you play with them often enough, which I do. 

If unibet reported data to sharkscope, I would be leading the 5/6max turbo sng all stakes 2017 board.  

I wouldn’t make a statement that I wasn’t very sure of,  I really don’t think the number 2 is even close. 

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@monkeyheaven wrote:

Fair question.

Historically I’ve been the highest volume player on any site I’ve played, it’s definitely no different on unibet, I doubt anyone else is close. It’s quite possible I play double the volume of the number 2 player on unibet. 

Might very well be.

I know my results, I’m crushing, am I winning more per game than anyone else, I don’t know, but I play in these games every day, I see the skill level of the other regs, I am probably the biggest per game winner. 

Having a higher ROI than anyone else is a statement you cannot make since you only know your personal ROI. In addition to that, you haven't published your personal data and stats in contrast to let's say @MathrimC.

Yes, the site is essentially anonymous but a lot of players don’t change names, and those that do are easily identifiable through their play style if you play with them often enough, which I do.

As a reg at the SNG10s and SNG25s, this statement doesn't really make sense. I'd wager some money that the guys not changing names are not among the best players. The other regs like you and I and many others you simply don't even recognize.  

I wouldn’t make a statement that I wasn’t very sure of,

 


I'm not saying that what you say isn't true, however you're making some pretty lofty statements based on assumptions. I agree with you that you're often seeing moves that make you scratch your head. And if your blog helps promote those games to other players, it's even better...

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We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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@VikingsAF common man be serious you really think that smarta** can replace almighty me ....heh i mean he tryin but thats so lame and he is more like some douch then real deal and i can bet he doesnt even know what gym it is!

So please dont compare me anymore with that bag full of estrogen cause i am real man!

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@WuDu, I did say I was “probably” the highest per game winner, based on what I know of my results, but you’re right there could be some higher per game winners, It’s all about that hourly though .  I understand you play 10s and 25s, where at the 10s at least, the player pool is quite large, and players could frequently change their sn and I probably wouldn’t notice.  But probably the biggest winner on the site isn’t a SNG10 reg, right?  I mean maybe, but they would have to be crushing whilst putting in huge volume. Every site I’ve played on I’ve been the highest volume player at 6max turbos (apart from stars.com, I played there early in my career when mum multitabling skills weren’t as strong as they are now). So this mythical SNG10 player would have to be putting in a lot more volume than me, and we are talking a few thousand games a month whilst smashing it to have a shot at beating my overall sng results for the year.  We can only make educated guesses here, but probably this player doesn’t exist. 

So, probably the biggest winner plays high volume, including at the higher stakes, and here’s why I can be confident that I’m the biggest winner this year; I am literally the only player that fits that description.  But, but, but, name changes, how do you know?  A typical afternoon I will reg a SNG50 and SNG100, whilst playing as many 25s and 10s as possible. Usually the 50 and 100 stay at 1/5 for the duration of the afternoon.   If IanSimpson is playing, a game or two might run, with me Ian and 3 non-regs.  In the evening some higher games run, but we know that those regs are only playing in the evenings, because the games have stayed at 1/5 all afternoon.  I can also tell how many games each higher stakes reg is playing, because I’m in every 25+ game.  Most are playing about half the number I am.   So, this theoretical higher stakes reg has to be the biggest winner, whilst putting in maybe half the hours I have, and multitabling half as many tables as me.  Again, educated guesses, but sounds unlikely.  

Now, if you, or @VikingsAF don’t believe me, that’s a different story, but no one here has published any independently verifiable data, there’s nothing anyone can do about that.  I will say, many players have some financial incentive (twitch streams, sponsorships, paid coaching) to exaggerate their results, I’m not suggesting that any of them do.  I am giving something of high value away for free, I have no plan to profit from this in anyway (I just got PM’d regarding paid coaching and I’m going to turn it down because I don’t want to coach people who are in my games), this will actually cost me time, and therefore money.  

 

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@TarotPower, why would you attack anyone personally like this on a blog? There's literally not a single reason why this blog would be less credible than any other blog on the community forum. No idea why also @WuDu and @VikingsAF are such disbelievers. I don't think anyone would just make up for fun that he grinds the 5-max SNGs, make up some imaginary results and brag about it. 

Also, he managed to rank some of the regs - including myself - in the SNGs, something which can only be done by grinding heaps of the 25+ games in my opinion. I personally recognized all these names too, so no, they are not made up names. 

I really don't understand why you guys are being so toxic about this thread. I feel like everything that @monkeyheaven states in this thread is very well possible. I am a pretty big winner myself in these games, and I'm not at all a professional. So it's very well possible imo that someone who has been playing poker for several years as a pro, can get these kinds of results. I don't see any reason for all the disbelief. 

 

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