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@MadAdo wrote:

@Brocky  the most funny thing when I'm looking up at your results :popeye: is that I won once a while (2-3-5 years) the money which is obviously your single buy-in into hundreds of game per single day ! Ouch, I'm still nano (onano) player :geek:


You raise an interesting topic that I've wanted to talk about for a while tbh.  This isn't solely directed at you so please don't think I'm attacking/critiquing you but it's something I've noticed a lot in the community and I include myself in that!

Why do we play?

Please don't take this post as preachy or anything but since I've turned professional I've noticed my motivation massively decrease.  I guess there's something utopic about doing poker as a job as opposed to just grinding a few hours a night after work but the reality is seemingly very different, for me anyway.  This leads me to the question, why do we play?

Right now I certainly play for the money.  Grinding heads up doesn't give me any entertainment after 10-11 years.  However, 6-7 years ago I was grinding from the moment I woke up to the moment I went to bed, regardless of whether it was $1 stakes rebuilding my bankroll or $100 stakes batling any player that was online.  

Obviously some of us will play solely for entertainment but the next part of my post is for those of you who are wanting to make some form of income as well.

What is the opportunity cost of my strategy?

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A good example of this is freerolls, or a challenge involving building a bankroll from nothing, something I've tried many times!  If the challenge were to say turn £0 (using the £ symbol as I don't have the EUR one on my keyboard) into £1k, it's important to look at the breakdown of how the challenge may go.  I would imagine it looks something like this:

£0 -> £10 = 50-60% of time spent on whole challenge

£10 -> £100 = 20% of time

£100 -> £1k = 20% of time

It's often overlooked that we spend the majority of our time on the things that accomplish the least.  Obviously the logical solution to the above is to deposit £10 and cut out all of the hard work achieving very little at the beginning.  Without wanting to pry or assume finances of people on the community, I have often wondered why people that make money from the freerolls aren't grinding their arses off at the 1 euro SNGs/MTTs for example in order to not have to play the freerolls anymore.  As I mentioned previously, some will be playing for entertainment, but for those who are wanting to build a bankroll to move up, I would encourage you to do an assessment on what you're playing, how much time it takes, profitablity etc.  

Not really much more to add, you get the point of what I'm trying to say.  Here's a couple of pros graphs from bankroll challenges emphasising the point:

7 months to make the first $500, 2 months to make the next $9,500.

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Doug Polk:

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Anyway, if any micro players out there are struggling to move up then feel free to PM me and hopefully I can give some tips.  

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I don't remember the start of the challenge but wasn't that one when he sold play money to real money and boosted up his BR? I personally don't think playing the regular freerolls only he could leave freeroll level so fast.

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https://www.pokerlistings.com/online-poker-s-greatest-challenges-pt-2-jesus-turns-0-into-10k

Says here he won $22 in 150 hours at 14c/hour profit.  Then he won $108 from a $1 tournament which got him properly started.

An interesting quote though - "Originally Ferguson had planned to make it from zero to $100 within six months and then from $100 to $10,000 in another six months."

I think this highlights the point nicely that we should be playing the highest stakes we comfortably can.  If someone has the means to deposit $100 then they'd be making 20k+ in 12 months as opposed to spending 6 months just getting to $100.  

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Thanks for the link, that was interesting. Still no info about what he do after the first broke, but I presume the turned all the freeroll winnings to €1 tourneys till he won the first 100. If I'm not wrong 2 dollars was a min pp in the freerolls at FT those days, so yeah, BR management wasn't the most important thing. The selling play money guy was at PS.

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A rather pathetic 13 games today but profit of €368.50 (minus a €5 hexa!).

20th: +€610.65

21st: +€788.66

22nd: +€244.62

23rd: -€272.48

24th: +€124.58

25th: +€516.72

26th: +€394.44

27th: +€198.11

28th: +€363.50

Total: +€2,968.80

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Had a few beers, played 2 x €25 HU, 3 x €10 Hexa (1.5x, 5x & 5x), 1 x €25 Hexa (3x) and won them all. Poker is the easiest game in the world when things are going well. What a shame about variance, eh?
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Decent day so far.

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20th: +€610.65

21st: +€788.66

22nd: +€244.62

23rd: -€272.48

24th: +€124.58

25th: +€516.72

26th: +€394.44

27th: +€198.11

28th: +€564.50

29th: +€412.00 (so far)

Total: +€3,581.30

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Finished for the day.  Won another €138 playing HU then decided to register for a €25 Hexa while enjoying a beer...

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€775 profit to the end the day.  I hope the heater never ends :rofl:

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@RaulonY wrote:

Great results, keep up the good work!!!

When did you started playing HU SNG's?


Thanks.  I started playing around 2010 I would say but can't really remember.  It's been my main game since then but have not been playing flat out for 9 years, lots of breaks and experiments with other games.

 

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Before I start my grind for today I thought I'd do a review post on a first half of the year.  I haven't gone back and read the first page or 2 of the thread but I can remember setting all of these goals which quickly faded once I hit my first downswing.  The biggest takeaway from turning pro has been how hard it is to self motivate when you have distractions around, or even when you don't.  I often find myself spending far too much time on the PS4 or just browsing the internet.  I don't feel like I 'work' as such during the days which is good but when something becomes your job it's easy to lose the passion and interest that comes from it being a hobby or a dream.

I've pretty much failed in everything I set out to do 6 months ago.  My volume has been shocking at times, I've gambled far too much on things I shouldn't have and I've not been as disciplined with the stakes/games as I wanted to.  However, there was a $20k score on Stars and there have been some much needed confidence boosting results over the last week or so.  Without getting a report from the Unibet guys I wouldn't be able to say how much I was up on Unibet.  Unfortunately, high cost of living and spunking of money has prevented me from having a bankroll that would comfortably place me at the highest stakes.

All is not lost though.  I haven't gambled on sports/casino for a while now and other than the odd high stakes session here and there, poker has been solid.  I've talked about different methods I've tried in terms of the bankroll, starting with a few hundred in the account each day for example, but I think I've found one that seems to be working nicely.  I deposited €1k on June 20th and the plan was to just build the bankroll while withdrawing £100 per day.  This gives me £3k per month for bills + savings and allows me to see the bankroll grow should I be winning more than £3k/month.  One of the biggest issues I had before when I was withdrawing all of my daily profit and resetting the account at say €300 was that I felt like I was achieving nothing because I couldn't see the rewards of my work.

The bankroll in my account now is not my whole roll by any means so no issues if I bust this but will be nice to see how high I can get it to.  Currently sat at around €3.8k with around €1.1k withdrawn over the past 10 days and with the new quarter coming up, I am really looking to push to win a UO package through the challenge points this Q.

I'm not going to try and set goals around eating/exercise/volume again because it'll only last a few weeks (if that) but I do need to look at changing my lifestyle.  My sleeping pattern is the best it's been since I was working and I just need to ensure I am creating a healthy balance between poker/life.  

All we can do in life is keep trying.  Peace <3

Edit: Forgot to say that I love streaming but the negatives just far outweigh the positives unfortunately as I was making nothing from it.  I wish I could do it more often but the player pool at the 50s+ is so small that it's really not wise for me to give out any information.

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Couldn't get anything going today, going to register for the €100 LVSS high towards the end of late reg and just one table with a few beers. If I bust that it'll put today at -€257.50 which puts a bit of a downer on things but still leaves me with a decent account balance for the new quarter tomorrow. Will stream later if I get ITM/deep!
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