DonkeyHunter

I agree, it is not a fair comparison, but I did it anyway 😅 mostly because you compared to the bigger sites in other aspects. If you think adding tournaments will hurt the existing schedule don't do it. Do you know that it is 50x or is that a guess? I thought it was somewhere between 10-20x. Yes, I was talking about 50/50 (bounty/prizepool) buy-in split with 75/25 (bounty payout/progressive) which is what Ice Giant and Shooting Star used to be. If you want to do 50/50 (bounty/prizepool) buy-in split with 70/30 (bounty payout/progressive) instead I don't mind. I've seen Stars have this option (30% Progressive Knockout). Just any ratios that make bounties have a slightly less relevance late game basically. And at the same time make 1st vs 2nd payouts slightly closer. You choose. Examples that would accomplish about the same thing: 50/50 (bounty/prizepool) buy-in split with 62/38 (bounty payout/progressive) 40/60 (bounty/prizepool) buy-in split with 60/40 (bounty payout/progressive) 40/60 (bounty/prizepool) buy-in split with 50/50 (bounty payout/progressive) 30/70 (bounty/prizepool) buy-in split with 50/50 (bounty payout/progressive) My guess is that to only increase the bounty payout would be the most attractive option to players, however that is just a guess.

Ok, nice. MEGA Qualifier to Tittle Fight with 6-10 min level up time is tagged H, should be T right? MEGA Qualifier to Hundred with 6-10min level up time is tagged T in comparison. I think start time was 17.40. Unrelated question, do you know what happend to the flags in the hands of the Norwegian avatar?

Makes sense 👍. It's all good, and also I didnt win the ticket for it. Can you comfirm that it did actually run on Sunday? It's possible I was missing "-" when searching for it.

Appreciate the input. PKO's are slightly less about survival than regular tournaments and I accept that. Consider the extreme case where first place takes entire prize pool. That would completely change everything. Compared to regular tournaments PKO's have been a lot more top heavy, which I think is the main issue. The non-bounty part of the distribution has now been tweaked, a very good decision IMO. The min cash is still greater than buy in like you mentioned and I think that’s fair. PKO's will remain more top heavy but the difference is not that brutal. Because 1st win their own bounty, we are often still going to see 1st = 2x2nd. The only way to even it further would be to adjust the bounty % and/or the progressive % unless I am missing something.

Ok, so first of. I do think you did you great job on the new schedule. It does seem the site is more popular than ever. That example was just another way of saying there are only 7 reg-speed NLHE in that time window. In comparison, Stars has almost triple that in the same time window. It’s not the subset that only plays reg speed I have in mind, but rather they prefer and play reg speed for the most part. If players pick the most attractive tournament (highest GTD), does it really matter if there is an equivalent tournament with a smaller GTD. Don’t you think the higher GTD will be prio for most anyways? I think we agree that adding 10 more tournaments is too much, however maybe there is space for 1 or 2 more? Having said that, it’s not a huge dealbreaker if you don’t. The fact that you can re-enter might be a factor I didn’t take into consideration. I agree with all of that. The only reason I really brought it up is because I was worried "everything" would eventually turn into turbos. Very nice to see, I think that’s a very good decision. The top-heavy structure of 50/50 is the main issue I have with them. The bounty ratios are one way to change that and why I was arguing for 25% progressive. Interesting, which ones? I don’t see the contradictions. Maybe I have been unclear. I was trying to avoid my post turning into a book. I do play turbos, I just play less of them. My least favorite is the 9-handed turbo and I think I have made it clear why. However, I do think it’s a bit more reasonable when levels are 6 and 7 min (Yes 7 min is technically not turbo). I did for instance play the old 9 handed Unidentified Object with 6 min levels. If I wasn’t clear about it, I do think the 6-Max PKO's are great tournaments. The only reason for having one 9-Max is variety really. Nice, I assume you mean the €5 (not €10) at 20.30? It still has the "T" tag, dont forget to remove that. 99 entries on the first day is pretty good for a freezeout. Did you change the start time forward? Haha 😂, you are right. Ice giant was 25% progressive btw. Is this you giving credit to 25% PKO's? 😉 This wasn’t really a complaint. Was just pointing out that it can be possible to finish earlier by skipping like 1 or 2 tournaments, because most finish before like you said. Thank you for taking my feedback into consideration. I take that the changes you made means at least some of my arguments make sense.

Did you see this one @Andy-Unibet ? Never mind if this has already been mentioned. Unrelated question: Does Ten-Spot not run on sundays? I do think I played the satelite (I could be wrong), but couldn't find it in the client.

Thank you for the reply 🙂, here is another wall of text. 😂 2/3/7. 2 is positive and at the same time letting you know that I want a couple more tournaments to play. I guess large guarantees attract players and especially the weaker ones and therefore it makes sense from a business perspective to channel all the money into a fewer number of tournaments like you said. I don’t expect you to make decisions that don’t make sense. The downside could be that players who prefer to play many tables end up not playing at all. 2/3 I don’t think they contradict, because I don’t mind smaller fields. I’ve seen others mention this on here as well as the main reason they play on Unibet. One of the Classic tournaments yesterday had 72 entries, 8 min levels and finished in 3h 41min. Let’s assume I play every reg-speed between 17:05 and 20:05 in the range 2-25. That’s 10 tournaments, which I guess is reasonable. However, let’s say I don’t like Omaha for some reason, then its suddenly looking a little thin. 3. Could it be a factor that you receive more feedback from unhappy players, than happy players? I don’t know. You have the data. If most players want turbo, most tournaments should be turbo, I guess. But then again, its not like 8 min levels is some kind of super slow deepstack structure. 1. 1.1 It matters because it pushes regulars out of their comfort zone. They cannot just auto pilot apply the same standard bounty math or take advantage of their experience. I don’t think it matter much to recreational what the ratios are. 1.2 The payout distribution. Here is comparison between yesterday’s Ironman (370 entries, 11.89% ITM) in green and Title Fight (255 entries, 9.41% ITM) in red. I have calculated the payouts as a percentage of the total prize pool for positions 1st – 10th. Here is the distribution: As you can see the PKO's are very top heavy. And because of that you lose some of the survival aspect. Here are the percentages for reference. Ironman [20.46, 14.60, 10.73, 7.85, 5.86, 4.33, 3.18, 2.26, 1.63, 1.27] Title Fight [22.62, 11.66, 8.03, 6.48, 4.78, 3.19, 1.62, 2.66, 1.20, 3.14] 1.3 I don’t think you have to create a new payout structure. 1st win their own bounty + bounty of 2nd place finisher so there will still be a difference. However, on average 1st and 2nd will be closer. 1.4 My argument is not that PKO's should be 200bb++ deep. However, if bounties are bigger early it would give more incentive to loosen up a bit when stacks are deeper. Consider a €25 PKO. When bounties are 12.50 you win 6.25 (25% of buy-in) in the standard version. In the 25% progressive version you win 0.75x12.50 = 9.375 (37.50% of buy-in). Bounties are 50% bigger early (9.375/6.25 = 1.50). Maybe it would be interesting if one of the bounty majors were a little different? The majority can be 50/50 4. For the same reason hypers should be 6-Max. 9-handed turbo/hyper feel very push/fold. That's not interesting at all, when most all-ins is a flip and there is no post flop play. Why not just play a FLIP tournament? 9-Max play tighter than 6-Max, and because blinds increase more rapidly its most of the time a push. If you change Bullet and Session Saver to 6-max, you can balance it back by changing one of the bounty tournaments to 9-Max. 5. Fair enough. I’m not against 6-Max and I will play the tournament regardless. In fact, I don’t mind if majority of tournaments are 6-Max. All I’m saying is maybe one of them can be 9-handed, because there is no 9-Max PKO. 8. That makes sense. I guess I should probably add a couple thing I like about the new schedule. 1. The lower rake. 2. Tournaments finish before 1AM. I still think this is late for someone who have work in the morning, but I guess it’s possible to skip a couple tournaments and still finish in a reasonable time. 3. 6-Max Omaha. 4. Except for a couple things I mention in this post, I think the majors are fine.

Hi! 🙂 This is a long one. I’m just going to list everything by numbering. Please feel free to let me know if you agree or disagree. Use the numbering to avoid any confusion. 1. I miss the old tournaments with different bounty ratios (Correct me if ratios are wrong here). This was as far as I know unique to Unibet, at least the number of different of ratios. Ice Giant 50% bounty, 25% progressive Shooting Star 50% bounty, 25% progressive Space madness bounty 90% bounty, 10% progressive Dwarf Star bounty 25% bounty, 25% progressive Supermoon 50% bounty, 50% progressive Why? First, simply just because it keeps thing more interesting when every bounty tournament is not the same. Second, regular players study the 50/50 PKO format because its the most common PKO format and recreational players don’t. Third, in 50/50 PKO’s a too large fraction of the prize pool goes to 1st place compared to 2nd -9th. Fourth, in PKO’s sort of the survival aspect of MTT’s is lost. A lower progressive value means more fold equity in later stages of the tournament. It would be nice to reintroduce fold equity to PKO tournaments (yes, this is a joke …. sort of). At the same time bounties are bigger early and makes thing more interesting early when stacks are deep. 2. The thing I really like about Unibet is the smaller fields which in the end means lower variance and they are less time consuming. You can finish a reg-speed tournament in 4 and not 10 hours. Overall, the feel of the new schedule is that there are less tournaments overall, but guarantees are larger. 3. This might be an unpopular opinion, however there is too much turbo in the new schedule. The old 8-min level tournaments were like the perfect semi turbo compromise between players that like normal speed tournaments and turbo players. There are 2 non-turbos between 20:05 and 00:30. I understand and agree with the goal to finish tournaments before 1AM. With the smaller fields of non-major tournaments, I don’t see how this is not possible. I just realized Fofty was changed from Turbo to 7min levels, a change in the right direction in my opinion. So that makes it 3 tournaments. 4. I think everything, at least most tournaments with level-up speed <= 6 min should be changed to 6-Max. There is a reason most hypers are 6-Max. 5. What happened to 9-Max PKO’s? There is not a good balance between 6-max and 9-max PKO’s in my opinion. I’ve seen others mention this on here as well ever since all the old “Falling Star” was replaced with “Shooting Star”. I suggest changing the Battleground to 9-Max. The Battleground, Title Fight and Slobberknocker is essentially the same tournament with different buy in level. 6. In lobbies of R/A tournaments the Add on field is empty. It would be useful to know how many chips add-on is compared to starting stack. If the purpose of that field is for something else, please add this information to the description text. Does this count as a bug? 7. More filler “vanilla” or PKO non-turbo tournaments. If they are lower buy in (please not nano), hopefully they dont steal attention from majors. 8. Let’s talk about Fofty. It is 1 of the 2 highest buy-in daily tournaments. Edges are lower because it’s a turbo and the field is slightly tougher, which is why I think a slower structure makes more sense. This tournament was the only major tournament to never meet the guarantee I think. Maybe the guarantee was simply too ambitious? My guess is that most spend their 50 euro in The Title Fight and all the turbo lovers play Bullet instead. But then again, not every tournament can be a favorite. I do like all of the non turbo majors so far and will probably play most of them whenever I start a session.

One more thing. I think I have found a bug. There is a leaderboard promotion with the new major tournaments. Shouldn't the "Leaderboard" filter apply to major tournaments?

Thank you. I guess i spent more than 30 minutes in the editor, because there was no edit option. 1. I did actually consider making a post about blind level duration inconsistency in the old schedule, but did never bother. If you check the lobby and play the tournament, usually you remember til next time i guess. For example, there were both regular and turbo Singularity tournaments with the same structure. All "Shooting Star" tournaments from the old schedule were the same tournament with different buy in levels. If you know the structure of one of them you know them all. That was sort one of the suggestions I was trying to make with the "Classic" "brand". Anyways, lets just agree to disagree. Overall I do agree with you that the schedule is more consistent now. Its not really a big deal for me once I have played the tournament. 2. Fair enough, it's just a preference thing I guess.

Btw, how do i edit my own post?

Yes, you are correct Andy 🙂, I did not catch the two or more variable chance rule. Hopefully I don’t give the impression that I think everything is all bad, because I don’t. Anyways, just take these as opinions. My main point is, there could be a more obvious naming rule. If players understand the naming rule without much thinking, it's easy for them to know what to look for. If "Classic" is the base/default, shouldn't additional parameters come after? Therefore, "Turbo Classic" --> "Classic Turbo".

There are non-major tournaments with 3k starting chips without the Classic naming. 13.15 €0.50 Turbo Freezeout 17:15 €1 Freezeout PKO 20:30 €5 Turbo Freezeout PKO 23.30 €25 Turbo PKO There are freezeout tournaments both with and without the Classic naming. 10:15 €1 Classic Freezeout 17:15 €1 Freezeout PKO 20:30 €5 Turbo Freezeout PKO 02:05 €5 Classic Freezeout There are tournaments with Classic naming that are non reg-speed. 15:05 €2 Turbo Classic 18.45 €5 Turbo Classic 20:45 €1 Turbo Classic 01:30 €10 Turbo Classic + all other "Turbo Classic". In other words, "Classic" tells me two things It's NLHE It's not a Deepstack or Megastack. Yes, I understand the point about avoiding very long names, but I would rather have longer names than having to check every specific lobby. It is mostly players that dont play tournaments on a regular basis i have in mind here. Regulars will get used to the schedule and it doesnt as much. Please reconsider the meaning of classic. Here are two suggestions. 1. The first thought that came to my mind when I saw the new schedule is that "Classic" must be some kind of "Vanilla" reg-speed freezeout tournament. Make Classic a "brand" within the non-major schedule, like the old "Singularity". Every Classic has 3k starting chips, is reg-speed, is re-enter and can be 6- or 9-max. With no exceptions to this rule. That way everyone knows what they get when they enter a "Classic". The question is then, what to do with the remaining tournaments? Introduce the label "HoldEm" and simply follow your naming rule [speed] [stack size] [entry type] [name] [bounty] [Omaha] [short stack size] which can be simplified to [name] [stack size] [speed] [entry type] [bounty] where [name] is "HoldEm", "Banzai" or "Omaha". where [stack size] is "DeepStacks", "Megastack" or "10bb". where [entry type] is "freezeout" or "R/A". re-entry is the default. A few examples: €5 HoldEm Deepstacks Turbo Freezeout PKO €5 HoleEm Freezeout €5 Omaha Deepstacks €5 Banzai 10BB If the goal is to keep names short, you could argue that [speed] [entry type] [bounty] are unnecessary because all that information is already available in the info column, and therefore the naming rule could be simplified even further. But that’s not really a big deal in my opinion. OR 2. Have "Classic" mean 3k starting chips, which is the simple solution. That way, what you do is make sure all tournaments follow the naming rule.

Hi! I found some Inconsistencies in naming of filler tournaments. There are more examples, however I will provide one example for each type of inconsistency. Let me know if I made any mistakes. Based on scanning through a couple tournament lobbies it seems all tournaments have the same structure (they include all the same blind levels) and that the only difference are the number of starting chips and blind level duration. So, all good here. First, what does the "Classic" label mean? What is the difference between Classic, Deepstack and Megastack? The key words refer to the number of starting chips, right? Classic means 3000, Deepstack 6000 and Megastack 9000. Makes sense, except there are inconsistencies to this rule. Let's compare two tournaments. “17:15 €1 Freezeout PKO” has 3000 starting chips. “14:40 €5 Deepstack Freezeout” has 6000 starting chips. The “Classic” is missing from the first tournament. If the goal is to be consistent with naming it would make sense to rename "17:15 €1 Freezeout PKO" to "17:15 €1 Classic Freezeout PKO" The second inconsistency is the order of "key words" in naming of some tournaments. Again, I will compare three tournaments to show you what i mean. 18.45 €5 Turbo Classic, 03:05 €10 Deepstack Turbo PKO 12.40 €10 Megastack Turbo When a Turbo is a "Classic", Turbo comes first. On the other hand, when it's a Deepstack or Megastack, Turbo comes second. This is not consistent. The simple solution would be to rename to 18.45 €5 Classic Turbo. To keep things consistent, I think it would make sense for all filler tournaments to follow some general naming rule. Here is what I could come up with: First, start with the guarantee. What is the number of starting chips? Add "Classic", "Deepstack" or "Megastack". If Omaha add "Omaha", else (NLHE) add nothing. Level up speed? Add nothing, "Turbo" or "Hyper" If Freezeout add "Freezeout" If PKO add "PKO" If R/A add "R/A" Third, I would suggest also to consider additional chances to the formatting. Here are a few examples (Yes, I know the second option is common on other sites). a) 03:05 €10 Deepstack Turbo PKO or b) 03:05 €10 Deepstack [Turbo, PKO] or c) 03:05 €10 Deepstack |Turbo, PKO| or d) 03:05 €10 Deepstack (Turbo, PKO) I have some additional feedback as well, but I will probably make a separate post in the feedback thread at some point. Hopefully this was helpful.

I registered late for E132 and E133 yesterday. Eventually I blinded out waiting for the add on period which never came. It seems there was an error in the configuration of these tournaments allowing players to register after the add-on period. See picture below. Can I get a refund for this?

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