Ladies at Unibet Poker Freeroll

[MJB1874]

Bit sexist?

[BonusPater]

Not sure if you're joking? :)

[MJB1874]

Well if your gender excludes you then? Sexist?

[Magicadil]

Poker is like 99% male dominated. Let ladies have an event to themselves.

I don't think you know what sexism means.

[BonusPater]

No, nothing is ever that simple - if you go by the dictionary definition, it's not sexist either. As @Magicadil points out, poker is dominated by men to a pretty extreme extent.
If anything it helps with the gender balance - don't we all want more women in poker? :) As the description says, it's a tournament organized by our ambassador Daiva.

[MJB1874]

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@Magicadil wrote:

Poker is like 99% male dominated. Let ladies have an event to themselves.

I don't think you know what sexism means.

 

Well one defination  from quick google search- Sexism means discrimination against people because of their sex: anything unfair to males or females, just because they're males or females.  So a Poker tournameny excluding males?

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[MetalWolf]

There have been women only tournaments for years and I think it's a great thing to promote. Would love more women to get involved. My finacè has started learning this week so my excuse if ive donked anyone this week is that it's been her playing ;)

 

Let the girls have this one.

[MJB1874]

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@MetalWolf wrote:

There have been women only tournaments for years and I think it's a great thing to promote. Would love more women to get involved. My finacè has started learning this week so my excuse if ive donked anyone this week is that it's been her playing ;)

 

Let the girls have this one.

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So this blatant sexism has been going on for years?  /html/images/emoticons/Asset25.png

[FeelsBadMan]

Not really sure whom you are calling sexist. Is unibet sexist? Last time I checked, 99% of their games are open to males, so males are clearly not being marginalized here. Yes there are a few female only games, but it's not really about the gender here, more about promoting the game to a certain demographic, in this case, one that could have way more players than it currently has. It's the same thing as having Welcome freerolls for people that signed up during the past 2 months, or norwegian only tournaments. It gives certain demographics a chance to try out poker with less pressure in the hopes that they will continue to play and won't just quit after the first experience or before even trying. And more people playing poker is a win for EVERYONE. Even for the freeroller that only wants 1 extra freeroll, cause more money in the economy, therefore more promos, therefore more freerolls :P

[WuDu]

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@FeelsBadMan wrote:

Not really sure whom you are calling sexist. Is unibet sexist? Last time I checked, 99% of their games are open to males, so males are clearly not being marginalized here. Yes there are a few female only games, but it's not really about the gender here, more about promoting the game to a certain demographic,

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Well and 100 % of all games are open to women! 100>99. :lovekiss:

If it helps bring more women to the tables, I'm all for this promo, but @MJB1874 has a valid point. In sports, women are segregated because they are physically inferior to men at the top. But in poker?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to a future tranny freeroll, can't leave a demographic behind...🆒

 

[GamesDean]

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@MJB1874 wrote:

Well one defination  from quick google search- Sexism means discrimination against people because of their sex: anything unfair to males or females, just because they're males or females.  So a Poker tournameny excluding males?

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 Well – I can’t get pregnant. Is nature sexist now?

[BillyR23]

@MJB1874 your avatar here seems to be that of a woman and from your alias I can't possible tell your gender, can you let us know about it?

I just can't possible understand why anyone can complain about an women only poker tournament, like some guys already said, poker(I would say even gambling in general) is pretty much a men's game and IMO that's not ok; if a few exclusive tournaments will bring more women to Unibet and/ or to our lovely community I would say go for it... I'm not that old on this site(~6 months) and except @Ametrine, @Mynona, @Michelle293, @Valkyrie I don't see many women getting involved here or on Unibet's Twitch channels(there is @Darkangel7 on Iany and Lappin Twitch streams but she's stil new here)- maybe a few more promotions or even a community league just for women would be an idea for the future...

GL all and see you at the tables :)

[FeelsBadMan]

 

 

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@WuDu wrote:

But in poker?

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But in poker they are not segregated, just some promotions to make them play. Like a cash game promo where mtt players won't win from. Or like the Serial Knitting Bearded Bikers forum can have their own freeroll. Or community freerolls :P . 

[WuDu]

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@FeelsBadMan wrote:

 

 

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@WuDu wrote:

But in poker?

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But in poker they are not segregated, just some promotions to make them play. Like a cash game promo where mtt players won't win from. Or like the Serial Knitting Bearded Bikers forum can have their own freeroll. Or community freerolls :P . 

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Yes, but playing cash games is your very own choice, similar as to joining a forum. There's nothing a man can do to join this freeroll, not by choice but his own sex. Which, even according to crappy wikipedia, is their #1 definition for sexism.

So @MJB1874 is correct. Just imagine the reverse situation, Unibet explicitly offering a "No women allowed"-freeroll, just for men, oh the outrage...

 

[FeelsBadMan]

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@WuDu wrote:

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Yes, but playing cash games is your very own choice, similar as to joining a forum. There's nothing a man can do to join this freeroll, not by choice but his own sex. Which, even according to crappy wikipedia, is their #1 definition for sexism.

So @MJB1874 is correct. Just imagine the reverse situation, Unibet explicitly offering a "No women allowed"-freeroll, just for men, oh the outrage...

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I'm pretty sure you can legally change your gender in some places if you want to, seems like a hassle for a freeroll but hey, you can. 

And you talk about things being choices ... for me it is not a choice to grind high stakes cash to win in the high stakes cash promo, I  would lose all my money before the end of the month. If a forum has affliate linked tournaments and I already have an account on the site, it is not my choice anymore to have that site as an affiliate and therefore access to it's tournaments. If I am not norwegian, it is not my choice to be norwegian to participate in the norwegian tournaments (okay I technically could but again, the too much hassle thing)

As for the definition, it's prejudice and discrimination, and I see no prejudice against males on the site, and no treatments against males on the site, no males are directly losing money in favor of a woman though the site's intervention. Only though their own skill and luck.  Again, just targeted promotions to make people play, the only difference with all the other promotions is the word woman. 

As for male only freerolls, I don't see any outrage for something like that, probably the same as here, a freeroller that can't enter but feels entitled to have access to all the freerolls, because I want moneys. Guys night tournaments, maybe something for Man's day (a silly "holiday" we have here manufactured by beer companies for them to have advertising content). The only problem for that is the lack of incentive, guys already play and make up most of the field, you're not encouraging anyone new to play, just the same people that would have been in a open tournament..

Also btw, I'm only arguing against your arguments, not against you. We've already established that we both agree that getting more women to play is cool. I just like debate :)

[Darkangel7]

i wish males could get pregnant. lul 

Do you realise how hard it is for us women?  You men have got an easy life in comparison. Do you also realise how difficult it is for a woman to enter a casino to play poker without feeling uncomfortable and men either looking at her like she is a piece of meat or a fish? The times have moved on from the stone age and yes women can play poker as Maria and Katie proved, but it is still a male dominated area. Women have more things to sort and do and dont really have that much free time. If you want to get more women into playing poker then why not offer a freeroll women only? Thay way new women to the game can have a chance to play and see how they feel about it. Tbh I really think women only tournaments play more aggressive than the normal tournaments but that's just my opinion. hat's off to Davia for doing something just for us women.

[WuDu]

@FeelsBadMan wrote:

As for the definition, it's prejudice and discrimination, and I see no prejudice against males on the site, and no treatments against males on the site,

More freerolls (or targeted promotion as you call it) for women than for men on this site ---> clear advantage for women. And no it's not about the country you live in, the amount of money you lost or the games you played; you can write novels about it, but in the end it's only about your sex and that my friend is sexism. But hey, men get the short end of the stick here, so it doesn't matter, right?

So what about players that don't self-identify in traditional binary gender-roles? You leave those guys out in the cold as well? What if @MJB1874 suddenly realizes that he self-identifies as gender fluid and on the day of the women only freeroll he feels more feminine? :Rofl: You and Unibet wouldn't want to discriminate against LTBGQxxxxx people and let him play, would you? 

@Darkangel7

Respect or special treatment, you can only choose one.

[Darkangel7]

women have always been discriminated against, fact. Always been a mans world, but now it's changing and the boot is becoming on the other foot. This thread is making me not want to play poker TBH with you. If it's making me feel this way how do you think women who are reading this thread are feeling?

[BillyR23]

I agree @Darkangel7, like I said I think this thread shouldn't exist (maybe it started as some kind of weird joke as @MJB1874 has a woman avatar)... IMO we should open threads that are welcoming women to the poker world and to our lovely community.

 

[BonusPater]

If this is sexism, then it must also be national origin discrimination and in some cases even racism (if you go by Wikipedia definitions as mentioned above) when promotions are exclusive for certain countries or a group of countries, or in some cases certain countries are excluded. So we're basically a racist and sexist organization because we're running targeted promotions. A tournament can be exclusive to Danes in the celebration of a national holiday just as a tournament can be exclusive to women in the celebration of a new Facebook group for women in poker.

 

Trying to simplify thing like this and say if it's sexism or not, by a Wikipedia or dictionary definition, that simply doesn't make sense to me. Can we all agree that poker is dominated by men, that we want more women in poker and if this freeroll can help with that, then it's good after all?

[BonusPater]

Closing the thread now, as I don't think further discussions will bring anything constructive :)