Poker SNG 5seat payout structure

[Chesas]

Hello Unibet community, as sng player I see, that payouts are really heavy structure, basically winner takes everything. Why not making something like that, for example 1eur. sng for 1st. 2.92  2nd.1.83 compare with nowadays 1st. 3.17 2nd. 1.58. These changes could reduce variance, downswings. In my opinion weak, recreational players has more chance to win.

[PunchFace]

I think top 2 for a 5 player SNG is the way to go

You'd prob get even more players going all in everyhand if you made it Top 3 lol 

[SkilfulPoker]

Hi, @PunchFace he's not asking to add an Extra payout, just adjust percentages to top 2 

[MathrimC]

I'm wondering what the impact of this would be on the winnings of the good and bad players. If I apply 60%/40% payouts instead of the current 66%/44% to my 1127 €10 SNG sample, my ROI drops 0,5% and I lose about €60 in winnings over a 1127 game sample (but it has to be said that my HU record is not very good at the moment, so this gap could potentially be bigger if my HU results improve). On the other hand, I would probably bubble a bit less, since flattening the payouts increases the ICM pressure which would decrease the amount of risks I take on the bubble and would make the mistakes of funplayers bigger, so that should give the good players a little more edge, but it's hard to put that into numbers. 

There are some downsides to a flatter payout structure for the fun of the game: the increased ICM pressure on the bubble would make people tighten up, which would make the bubbles more boring and last longer on average, and make bubbling more frustrating. It would also cause the heads-up to start on average at a higher blind level, making it even more of a crapshoot.

[jerry]

For one i would like double up SNGs. 4 people two double up or 6 with 3 people winning. As it is you just need to play the game always for win, not just to survive. I know its easier said than done, but for me when i play them for tickets im winning like 80% of them (no kiddin), when i play for money i usually make very little profit with a lot of 2nd places and that pretty much keeps me from attacking 10e sngs. That said with 1st. 2.92 and  2nd.1.83 the game is little less variant IMO and i would like that better. With this for 2nd place you are almost double up, so when you make this the next game is for free. Now, when you lose that next game with that 2nd place you are behind 0.5 of buyin which in 1e region is nothing but with 10e games is something you can feel. 10 games 5 2nd places 5 zeros and you are 25e behind 😠. 

[VikingsAF]

@MathrimC would love 66/44 aswell ;) but guess unibet will go broke then :p

But I actually feel like it's good now. There needs to be some profit in shipping it. If it's almost the same for 2nd as for first, then it wouldn't matter to win, no one would care about the heads up. 

I feel like you deserve a little extra for winning the heads up. I actually would rather opt for 70/30 in sit n go's. Make the number one profit even more for all the effort. 

@jerry  if you play 5 times 2nd and 5 times zero (so 3,4 or 5) then you should be a losing player. Because this aren't good results... 

[MathrimC]

Hehe. I meant 66/34 ofcourse. But yeah, 66/44 would be great :laugh: