False news

[Livertool]

@testuser1

Actually you gave me false information according to this so maybe not my bad anyways :)

 

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[BonusPater]

Hmm. I'll need to read up on this.
It's clear that he can book a player after the game has ended, and as far as I know, this also means in the dressing room, some assosiations do say that all players shouldn't have left the field though. I remember a case from 4-5 years ago where several players were booked after the game had ended and the ref and players had left the pitch. Think Bradford was one of the teams, but will need to check up on this.
For now I'd say that none of us were correct, if we look at the FIFA document. Players can be booked 10 minutes after the game has ended, however not if the ref has left the pitch. I'm convinced that if a player e.g. Verbally attacks a ref in the player tunnel after the game, he can easily book this player. Will try and find some examples from FIFA governed matches later today :)

I still believe that the referee can actually do it. If he reports to the the national federation that he booked players off the pitch after the game had ended, the federation certainly won't ignore this.

Maybe the rules changed in recent years

[Livertool]

Well if the referee left the field, he/she cant give yellow card in the dressing room like you wrote :)

I think in those cases he/she reports to proper officials or something and the possible verdict comes later.

Just little bit annoying that you give misleading information for a fact :(

[BonusPater]

Technically everything I wrote is correct :)

A card can be given 10 minutes after the game has ended, and a card can be given off the pitch during HT, according to FIFA rules. There're plenty of examples of refs booking players off the pitch after the game ended. I never wrote that according to FIFA rules, a player can be booked off the pitch after the game has ended :)

So I didn't give misleading information for a fact :)

[Livertool]

"My example has happened several times, and it is allowed according to FIFA and UEFA rules. Just Google occasions where cards were given in the dressing room after the game had ended. It's not common, but it happens several times a year"

Maybe i cant read but cards that are given in the dressing room or ten minutes after game when referee and players have left the field are not allowed under FIFA rules. Not according to picture what i showed.

Maybe i will stick to betting at 1x2, much more easy to settle :D

[BonusPater]

My example was that cards were given 10 minutes after the game finished. The next sentence is simply if you wanted some examples to prove the statement about the 10 minutes :)

Our rules for football are actually not that long:

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[Livertool]

Yes but that is just for football, looked up the general betting rules for finnish in your site and there is 66 pages, so it is quite hard to remember of them all and you have always the last word anyways so why bother.

And i dont mind that, if i leave a bet, i accept it. And personally do not have hadany bigger issues of the betting so i tired of arguing of this :)

You win, but i void the argue because of my rule 1 section 1.012 part 1.01 which is im an in flue :D

If i would not be i would have credited you with 1000 euros :D