coconuts Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Been playing nl 25 and would like to know wtf is it with hit n run players who are on 1table and come on and stak you then run ,yes this is a rant but sick of the bs ,day 5 of the bs that goes on ,todays rancidness ,aq raise btn n get 3 bet from bb so call flop aj6 2 clubs ,bb leads and i raise n he shuvs ,77 hes got n guess what yes 7 on turn ,hes been on 5 hands and then fks off ofc .This garbage has happened 5 days in a row so either unibet is fkng me over with bots or something very strange going on .yesterdays was kk guy raise and a rr to 7 euro pre and small blind cold calls n flop ttj ,i bet n guy shuvs ,yes aj wtf n ace on turn ofc and he then runs ofc ,day before aa v kk n he flops k ofc and ofc runs .Tbh playing live cash for ten years and online and some of the garbage i have seen this week ,always favours the reg ,obvs the software pays the most raked players on table ,total bs and see the same players flopping sets v big hands day in day out ,seems like my 1st thoughts that unibet doesny operate the same bs as other sites but seems like they do ,The amount of 2 outer 22/1 shots against you is unbelievable and constantly in favour of your most valued players ,its so obvious but as usual the site treats its high volume players well,this might sound paranoid but it is not as i have made a lot of money gambling and when my gut and experience tells me something aint straight it isnt .Sites wonder why traffic is so low ,try and ask live players to play it and there answer is its bent. I know this spew wont change how operaters work but i want you to know people are smarter than you think and stop filling your pockets at the expense of a game that you know the odds are uneven and the setups that you create at the tables for certain players ,the amount of times you can tell who is going to hit what v certain players ,i only flop sets v low volume players n the regs flop it v me ,just such a pyramid system linked to rake .Have been watching videos of your sites winning players ,they are average players at best and tbh there play tells me that it has to be in there favour as they arent good enough to play this level and would be bankrupt in a week , try grinding 6-10 8 hours a day to win fk all as all your profit gets sucked off you by ???? amazing rungood regs and single player 2 outers ,brutal and sickening tbh ,yet your video regs run great day to day and suffer little variance ofc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hascorel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 aq raise btn n get 3 bet from bb so call flop aj6 2 clubs ,bb leads and i raise n he shuvs......why you raised here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 small bling called and he min raised from bb in 1st hand and sorry i 4 bet small pre then he dnk lead flop so i raise and he ships ,flush draw poss or worse ace so i aint folding 1st hand v 1players table . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hascorel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 This garbage has happened 5 days in a row........... 😃 i had in my poker carrer several 2-3 months downswings with only that ❤️♥️❤️ hapenning so 5 days is a joke i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hascorel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 how many hands you play a day ? and what is your winrate ? if you don,t know go to live chat and ask them to give all last months reports on nl 25 or watherver stakes you play .... then calculate your winrate .. i doo that every month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 play nl 25 6 table average 8 -10 hours a day ,its the amount of 2 outer v 1 table players thats criminal ,lost 8 buyins to such crap in 5 days ,not sure amount playing hands ,prob about 2k hands ?? win rate is ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 how can you survive months like that ? be broke ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hascorel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 you can go broke if you move down in limits when bankroll dictates ... if you play just nl 25 1 month likew this ,yeah you dont get the final of the month 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hascorel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 if you play 6 tables 8-10 hours a day it means that you seen like 600 flop a day with means like 3k hands a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hascorel Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 you dont know what WINRATE means ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkilfulPoker Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 hey I feel your pain poker can be brutal sometimes, i've excluded myself on ps for 3 years, because i thought ps was rigged. Truth of the matter is poker is a mentally demanding game. The mental game is as much a skill as knowing how many outs you have. So while i can relate to your crazy thinking at the moment (read above sentence)... you have to realise how floored your logic is if you sit and think it through."some of the garbage i have seen this week ,always favours the reg"if an outcome favoured a reg it would mean the best hand would win on average, a reg is not going to be getting it all in with a pair of 77's on an ace high flop like in your example... So that part of the consipiracy theory doesn't make much sense.Truth of the matter is poker is a tough game. You see a ton more hands online than live so you are likely to encounter hands in which you don't run so good, just like you will encounter hands where you do, alot more often. When you do , due to the nature of our memory and perception you'll be subjectively biased and remember the outliers more often (and especially the outliers where you have emotion invested, e.g. where you're running bad).Maybe time for a break, and refresh and come back with a fresh approach? Good luck on the comeback! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirahn Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 People very rarely remember the good outcomes from other peoples bad play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karagiozow1981 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Unfortunately, people no longer remember only moments in which other administrators are striving in their own tournaments. Unfortunately, so they have entangled strings that can not break even judge them. We can sum up: in tournaments Unibet is full of stooges. Of course they will deny, but that of course is not true and you all know it!Какви жокери обсъждате? What jokers discuss? What looked to people here? I am a member for many years and I see that even gets worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirahn Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 @karagiozow1981 wrote: We can sum up: in tournaments Unibet is full of stooges. Sorry but i dont understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 ofc i know what win rate means lol ,about 10.15 bb per hour on non reg table ,reg table -10/15 bb an hour .the hand i discussed wwasnt a reg obvs ,he was one of these 10 hand people who hit n run you after 2 outer you ,obvs that is the mentality of someone who likes to gamble ,thats my point who and what are these players ,they dont fit any type.When the same people are hitting 2 n 3 outers daily and flopping sets v big hands its makes you very suspicious ,i understand every maths equation in poker and odds of hitting trips and sets and straights and certain players run constantly ev + even when there play is average at best ,thats my point that these players would not survive without help at this level .they are more like 5c/10c level and they winning at 25nl.i can tell you who will flop what v who at a table ,its so set up .ye pstars is a rip once you start looking at graphs of players who suffer 0 variance ,brazil players now as new market and being coached by american pros how to beat pstars ,once they have sucked you out with 2outers a few times then you see there 45degree graph that tells you something ,i would never give that shower of rancid canadians a single dollar ,rather give to charity .usual problem is there is no control of poker sites operating in uk .transparency is not the name of the game . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTBC Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @coconuts wrote: usual problem is there is no control of poker sites operating in uk .transparency is not the name of the gameUK Gambling Commision*Drops mic* Have you read my blog HERE... It's long isn't it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 gambing commision lol .i am pro gambler in horse racing so that is funny but ty ,they have no interest tbc ,they are incompetent and bent as fook .They dont audit zip ,they just pretend to take part . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 there are people making a lot of money in horse racing illegally but who do the gc go after ,a jockey who had 10£ eack way on his horse ,thats just to show how much they look after the common mans integrity of racing 🆗 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTBC Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 If the Unibet game is so corrupt, don't play them.If you've just had a dose of variance, dry your eyes and move on. Have you read my blog HERE... It's long isn't it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 It's a shame I can't just link to the conspiracy thread on 2 + 2 from here.But let's just go with - poker is about 3% of Unibet's revenue. To rig the games and be found out would mean to lose all of our licenses in all of our jursidictions. We would be rigging to gain 0.5% revenue, but if we're caught we lose 100%. It'd be very stupid of us to do so. Not to mention you're accusing me of being dishonest, which I find pretty rude. Go read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias Former head of poker @ Unibet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtyMcFly Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @coconuts wrote: ofc i know what win rate means .How about "paragraphs"? I heard that using them leads to a better response than this one, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTBC Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 @ArtyMcFly wrote: @coconuts wrote: ofc i know what win rate means .How about "paragraphs"? I heard that using them leads to a better response than this one, but I'm not sure.+1 Have you read my blog HERE... It's long isn't it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconuts Posted November 11, 2016 Author Share Posted November 11, 2016 .Andrew this was not a personal attack so dont take it that way .Imo online poker on any site is no where near random equally with same volume of live hands .I know this about as an ambigous opinion as can be but that is my opinion .Been playing 10 years and read every poker book 5times over as well as 1millon hands online.A forum is for spewing off as well as long as its not attack on someone imo. As someone who is trying to make a living of poker my undeserved tilt gets better of me considering this is now my income so hopefully you can see was not a personal attack .Understand how you feel after working 8 hours on 6/8 tables to win 200 bb n then some randoms gets 2 outers then leave rinse and repeat for 5days Variance in these 200bb pots seems crazy v hit n run type and i am running :puking: tbc : i did say lol at end of ofc i know what win rate is /would have thought you would know that playing 8 hours of multabing 25nl that i would know about win rate , i meant as no hud didnt know exact and appreciate idea asking unibet so thank you for that.This week a wouldnt want to know :waterfall: Look on bright side will be in super dt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggasai Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hi ! fully totally agree. I mean, I generally belive people who play poker on unibet are on avrage more stupid then other sites, I have speculatet if the reason is that they win some money on odds and then perhaps thinking to give poker a go. The calls and shuvs that is going on there. It is so vommiting. And yet, most of them gets rewardet with miracle hits. It is incredible frustrating as we who actually know the game and how to play should be able to exploid this and be rich as fk.I have been writing down my pre shuvs where I am 60 percent to win. It currently states that I win 30 percent of those hands(89 shuvs). IT IS SICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimal Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 @Haggasai wrote: It is incredible frustrating as we who actually know the game and how to play should be able to exploid this and be rich as fk. are you preatty sure you know the game? you might also should know that the money / profit are coming from this kind of players? In my last few days i was almost crying but i was given up to blaime something or someone cause this is the profit are coming from.If you really want to play with much better players , make a deposit and move higher in stakes and you ll play with better players , but ohhh... i forgot something : when you loose there you ll come here again and you'll post same thing .If you know variance also you should know that is a limited promotion , everything in life has ups and downs and this in poker might happen a bit more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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