Tablet Advice

[WuDu]

Guys,

I'm thinking about buying a Lidl tablet (OK, not actually from Lidl but a Chinese one off Amazon) and I would like to hear your opinion about it.  

I recently discovered a nice online source of books and I would like to get into reading a little bit more, especially since most media nowadays is just hot trash. So when it comes to buying a tablet my main use would be to read PDF/epub files in bed before sleeping/while sitting outside. In addition to that I'd like to watch some youtube/rumble, listen to spotify and browse the internet. But that's about it.

I'm not planning to play any games/play poker via tablet; I don't want to stream any movies/Netflix (that's why you have a TV); shopping, emails and anything important related will be done through my laptop. 

Best case scenario would be if I could download Brave, Firefox with ublock origin and Opera with its free VPN as well. That way I could stream spotify via Firefox and youtube via Brave, like I do on my laptop.

So in your opinion, what kind of setup do I need for that? Can I get by with a Lidl tablet for round about 70 Euros?

Here's one I found so far:

I'm assuming the "HD" will be 720p, which is still enough for me. Do I miss something here?

[Livertool]

If it is too good to be true it is Save yourself from losing 70€ and headache.

Priceranges must be quite similar between our countries what comes to tech gadgets and if you compare what tablet you can get with 70€ from (somewhat) trusted brands answer is nothing or maybe some 7 inch tablet with 2gb of ram so that should trigger the alarm.

If you don't want to spend more then 2nd hand tablet would be my answer to be able to do those things. But minimum of 4 gb of ram for at all smooth experience

PS. Opera works well too with youtube imo.

[Purps]

Read a proper book.

With the time already spent in front of a computer screen, I can't even imagine reading a book from any kind of a screen right before going to sleep.

Better for your eyes and sleep quality.

[Livertool]

2 hours ago, Purps said:

Read a proper book.

Problem with proper book is that you have to limit yourself to either to what library is offering or use money to buy it. 

Dunno either about screen time, what does xtra half an hour mean if you already watch screen most of day.

So as i used to agree with you, nowadays really don't find reasoning for it anymore. That being said, if i have an option to read what i want from paper or screen i choose paper but that option is getting more rare every day.

[WuDu]

5 hours ago, Purps said:

Read a proper book.

Grandpa doesn't care about the environment it seems...

My mother owns a Kindle paperwhite, which is actually easy on the eyes.

7 hours ago, Livertool said:

But minimum of 4 gb of ram for at all smooth experience

Do you know what "virtual RAM" is about to mean and how it effects the performance? You often see something like 3 GB + 7 GB being advertized.

7 hours ago, Livertool said:

PS. Opera works well too with youtube imo.

I'm very happy with Brave as it blocks everything, I'll use Opera as backup in case Brave doesn't work on certain sites.

[Livertool]

1 hour ago, WuDu said:

Do you know what "virtual RAM" is about to mean and how it effects the performance? You often see something like 3 GB + 7 GB being advertized.

Someone with more tech expertise might have better answer, i just call it hoax that you only see in cheap crap to make specs look better.

I would just consider it 3gb, whatever that 7gb does (if anything) is another thing but most certainly it ain't the same as having 10gb as hardware.

[WuDu]

6 hours ago, Purps said:

Better for your eyes and sleep quality.

Played around with my PDF reader settings:

I like this newspaper style display. 

20 minutes ago, Livertool said:

i just call it hoax that you only see in cheap crap to make specs look better.

But from your perspective, 4 GB of physical RAM would be enough?

[Livertool]

21 minutes ago, WuDu said:

But from your perspective, 4 GB of physical RAM would be enough?

Yeah, ofc the more the better but if those things you wrote is all you do then 4gb imo is enough. Even 2gb can handle everything there individually and you are able to do some light things simultanously (like listening spotify while playing unibet poker) but if you switch between tasks or try to multitask heavier things, tasks on the background tend to close down and have to be loaded again.

So min 4gb is way to go.

[GR1ZZL3R]

8 hours ago, Purps said:

Read a proper book.

With the time already spent in front of a computer screen, I can't even imagine reading a book from any kind of a screen right before going to sleep.

Better for your eyes and sleep quality.

Totally correct, 

 

5 hours ago, Livertool said:

Dunno either about screen time, what does xtra half an hour mean if you already watch screen most of day.

Mmmmm. "I'm doing something that's bad for me, I know, I'll do some more!" Genius! 

 

3 hours ago, WuDu said:

Grandpa doesn't care about the environment it seems...

I thought you didn't believe in climate change so what do you care about the environment?

 

   The actual e-readers, Kindle etc are the best purely for reading, but even their settings are not as good for your eyes as natural light, you shouldn't be watching any sort of screen for at least an hour before sleep.  I've gone back to proper books, there's nothing better. I've also been through the whole buying on the cheap thing, you don't ever seem to get value from unknown names and will be more likely buying another in a month or two. If you insist on a reader why not go for one of the official refurbished known brands,  NOT refurbished from Amazon (scams.) 

[Livertool]

26 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

Mmmmm. "I'm doing something that's bad for me, I know, I'll do some more!" Genius! 

Yeah, i ain't afraid of nonsense whether it is of flu killing me or using my eyes wearing them out. It don't affect my sleeping either so don't see the problem. Naturally if it ain't for someone then it ain't.

Funny how you can hang around here, play poker, watch tv if you are afraid of losing sight, even more genius  

Having said that even if i would be worried of screen time, i also drink alcohol, eat red meat etc which probly also are "bad for me" but as the feel good part overcomes the possible negatives then it is +ev to me. 

[WuDu]

35 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

I thought you didn't believe in climate change so what do you care about the environment?

Man made climate change = hoax.

Nature and environment = no hoax.

You're welcome.

11 hours ago, Livertool said:

if you compare what tablet you can get with 70€ from (somewhat) trusted brands answer is nothing or maybe some 7 inch tablet with 2gb of ram so that should trigger the alarm.

Did as @Livertool suggested and currently there's a Samsung Galaxy A9 (9 inch) with 4 GB RAM and 64 GB space available for 111 Euro. Lenovo has something similar for around 92 Euro with 3 GB and 32 GB.

46 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

 I've also been through the whole buying on the cheap thing, you don't ever seem to get value from unknown names and will be more likely buying another in a month or two

I'd usually agree with this statement, but the question is how much are you paying for the brand name? In the end, they all come from China anyway. That's why I'm looking for input here. As I mentioned, this wouldn't be my go to device, so I don't need a gazillion apps already being installed and other stuff I don't use anyway. 

I usually try to avoid amazon and this bald weasel, but the good thing is that it's pretty uncomplicated to return the product in case it's just trash.

14 minutes ago, Livertool said:

It don't affect my sleeping either so don't see the problem

Some people are effected, some are not. The issue I see is more related to wasting time playing around with your tablet in bed instead of sleeping.

[Livertool]

48 minutes ago, WuDu said:

Did as @Livertool suggested and currently there's a Samsung Galaxy A9 (9 inch) with 4 GB RAM and 64 GB space available for 111 Euro. Lenovo has something similar for around 92 Euro with 3 GB and 32 GB.

Quaranteed more value for money than your earlier china webstore option. I would also go for Samsung too rather than Lenovo, not only for bigger ram but also for storage. 32 is quite small and android takes huge chunk of it on its own.

With black friday coming at end of month you could still squeeze some money off from it but do you feel lucky punk? 

PS. In Proshop.fi you can find that Samsung on sale for 99€ while proshop.de the price is 199€. And they say Finland is expensive compared to Germany 

[GR1ZZL3R]

12 hours ago, Livertool said:

using my eyes wearing them out. 

Funny how you can hang around here, play poker, watch tv if you are afraid of losing sight, even more genius  

   You still don't comprehend what you read do you. Not sure how you'll wear your eyes out if you used proper lighting etc. Point out where I say I'm afraid of losing my sight genius! I'm more concerned with the effects on sleep, if that doesn't affect you then fine.

12 hours ago, Livertool said:

Yeah, i ain't afraid of nonsense whether it is of flu killing me

12 hours ago, Livertool said:

i also drink alcohol, eat red meat etc

   Nothing whatsoever to do with the current conversation but only shows what a big brave soldier you are. 

 

12 hours ago, WuDu said:

Man made climate change = hoax.

Nature and environment = no hoax.

You're welcome.

   Again not part of the original conversation but you two do like to sidetrack and take tangents. There is actually a huge debate to be had on electronics and the environment, I won't give an opinion as you'd both probably automatically jump in the opposite direction. 

   As for the tablet the best idea is to do your research and shop around, I would't put you off the Samsung, I always used to buy them in the past and no bad experiences.

[Livertool]

50 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

You still don't comprehend what you read do you

I don't???

What part of you quoting my sentence gave you impression that i was worried about sleep? Sentence that i replied purps to about books being "better for eyes and sleep". Did it occur to you that i was referring to possible harm to eyes instead of sleep?

20 hours ago, Livertool said:

Dunno either about screen time, what does xtra half an hour mean if you already watch screen most of day.

Thou you can be mistaken for my great reading abilities at poker tables that i can also read everyone minds here is spoiler for you:: i can't So if you were talking about sleep factor you can easily write, right?

If i may suggest, you can reduce your screentime and way more than half an hour cause quite obviously you are just bored and frustrated for lack of interaction and someone to talk to when you feel like you have to jump in just to be cute and wiseman when all you do is look like retarded.

[GR1ZZL3R]

    And they wonder why forums are dying. 

   I can see that before long this forum will consist of Dumb and Dumber name calling each other about anything and everything because they'll have no-one else to name call and ridicule, having driven everyone else away by simply ignoring reasoned discussion and beating everyone who doesn't agree with them into submission.  

 

 

Well played, you win again.

   

 

 

 

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...no, I can't think of any either. 

[Livertool]

Classic. First you come in to run your mouth and when duck bites back you are victim.

[GR1ZZL3R]

   Even classier from you, don't understand math, then not understanding the written word so resort to name calling. When someone decides to disengage for name calling, (I didn't say you were calling me names but you obviously missed that,) you decide that's not the reason and make up your own, proving once again you may be able to read but have great difficulty in comprehending. 

 

 

 

[Livertool]

[WuDu]

On 09/11/2024 at 23:22, Livertool said:

32 is quite small and android takes huge chunk of it on its own

That's a good point.

 

On 10/11/2024 at 10:48, GR1ZZL3R said:

As for the tablet the best idea is to do your research and shop around, I would't put you off the Samsung

Noted.

On 09/11/2024 at 23:22, Livertool said:

PS. In Proshop.fi you can find that Samsung on sale for 99€ while proshop.de the price is 199€.

Checked it for myself, however I think that shop has a different colour on sale in Germany. 

I'll continue to shop around a little as I'm currently torn here. So if someone of you sees a nice offer, feel free to post it here.

Obviously you cannot trust amazon reviews if they're insanely positive. From my experience, amazon reviewers are either retarded or bought, likely both. 

[Livertool]

On 11/11/2024 at 23:42, WuDu said:

Obviously you cannot trust amazon reviews if they're insanely positive. From my experience, amazon reviewers are either retarded or bought, likely both. 

Worth to read some of the reviews, good and bad, to see what they are praising/complaining about. For example if someone is whining about tablet missing nfc that is quite useless thing to have in tablet and you can check those things before buying device rather than whine afterwards.

On 11/11/2024 at 23:42, WuDu said:

Checked it for myself, however I think that shop has a different colour on sale in Germany. 

Never used that proshop myself, just used it for comparison as it has pages for both of us. 

I think it is legit operator thou ain't impressed with their ai doing translations. While ago they sold this dog toy as "latex 47 cm big dick (kyrpä)" when obviously cock should have been translated as rooster and not dick 

[WuDu]

2 hours ago, Livertool said:

Worth to read some of the reviews, good and bad, to see what they are praising/complaining about.

What I'm doing now is finding reviewers who uploaded videos of their tablets, so that I can see how fast certain programs start and so on.