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It's not a blog really, more of a story to introduce myself and possibly so that when I lose my mind I can remind myself who I am and what I'm supposed to be doing.

I wanted to do an introduction because there seems to be quite a few nice people on here (in my short time observation) that go out of their way to help people. Quite a few of those have introduced themselves and so I thought I would at least give a bit of background of the person bugging them for answers. Something that has always fascinated me is peoples willingness to help others become better at something that could ultimately end up costing themselves. Poker being one of the perfect examples. Why would you write a book telling people how to beat you or discuss strategy with someone you don't even know? You wouldn't go up to your enemy and tell them the best way to blow your head off, yet for some reason we do it in poker and I do it too, why! It's madness!

I first started playing poker in 2009 when i got roped into a pub game (I was brought up playing cards as a kid and the only game I had never played was Texas Holdem) and had a great time, made some friends and was hooked straight away. I couldn't wait for next week to play again and so joined an online poker site and 8hrs later I was $1500 better off after finishing 2nd in a poker tournament. By the time next week came I had lost most of it because I thought I was the greatest player in the world and could win every game!Sound familiar?

Next week came and fun was had again. By the end of the season I had qualified to play in a live tournament in a casino, along with 2 others. I had never even been in a casino before and found it all very exciting but overwhelming and I was very nervous. After managing to settle down I qualified for the finals and received a nice little trophy although I didn't do fantastically well in the final. After several more casino visits and several good results later I was addicted and decided it was the life for me and so it was. For the next 10 years I lived a large part of my life in casino's making a living from something I loved. It became a love/hate relationship.

When I started in 2009, the fields were huge and we often had to join a waiting list, the prize money was great too and I made a good living just playing local tournaments. I tried my hand online too but I just couldn't get away with it and never did well, really a losing player online. My main strength was reading people at the tables and online I was getting very little that I could rely on, plus I got bored easily without the interaction and conversation. I would play way too many tables just to try and occupy myself and therefore get even less information, so I stuck to live play.

After a while the game changed very noticeably in lots of ways. Not only was the style of play changing but the casinos were getting greedy, putting the fees up and the food prices up. But the biggest killer to the game was the introduction of rebuys, which then became unlimited with add-ons. Not only did I have to adapt my game (as did everyone) but the fields and the prize money were shrinking. Most of the recreational players couldn't afford to keep re-entering to keep up with the crazy deep pocketed players and stopped playing and so in the end the casino's shot themselves in the foot and I had to travel further afield.

My opinion of poker has changed many times over the years, just like most people I have spoken to and I personally have gone from thinking it is 80/20 skill/luck to 20/80 and everything in-between. There is certainly more luck than skill involved in the modern game in tournaments (cash is different). It's a fine line between making your fortune from tournament poker or just getting by. One lucky break and you can be set for life. I can still recall every single hand in every major tournament I entered that took me out( I have a condition which means my memory is failing so I won't have to suffer them forever). I won't bore you with them, especially as I have probably done that already, writing way more than I intended.

The Covid saga pretty much sealed my decision to give up live poker as my health already meant it was on the cards (so to speak). It's a hard life for most, glamorous to begin with but very hard. It's a different world all together and surreal. Money loses its value and time has no meaning and the outside world doesn't exist. And when you go deep in a tournament or bring a few £100 away from a cash game you feel on top of the world and it's a great drive home. But then travelling, sometimes hundreds of miles when you can't really be bothered. Sometimes being stuck in a tournament for 3 or 4 days. Grinding all night to bust on the bubble or play cash for 12 hours to drive home £200 down is the flip side. Are there any other jobs where you can go to work to come home with less than you started! Not to mention looking like a milk bottle because you never see daylight!

I expect I will return on a "just for fun" basis at some point, just as it used to be.

Anyway...my goal is to start at the bottom, try not to take it too seriously and learn to be disciplined playing online, which has always been my biggest problem with it(other than not knowing whether someone is thinking about a decision or just scratching their arse).I only deposited £50 so that I had no choice but to start at the lowest stakes(already overstepped my boundaries doing the July challenge and messing around a bit but managed to survive). So I have mainly been playing 4NL and almost trebled my BR and have 3500XP and on Level 3. I'm happy with that but i'm going to struggle to get to Level 5 before it resets on October 1st. I think level 5 is where I need to get to avoid dropping back to Level 1? I'm still trying to navigate my way around here and i'm not even sure how the multipliers work yet (i assume it's the rate you earn XP that is multiplied) but it looks like you need to achieve level 7 to earn a living purely on rewards?

It would be interesting to know what others think is a sustainable and worthwhile level and how they achieve it. I don't want to be living poker 24/7 anymore, just putting in as many hours as I can without burning out and making a few £ at the same time. Also, how do people keep track of win rate, P&L etc on here because I don't think they allow any tracking software? Live was easy using poker journal on my phone but that was just 1 table at a time obviously (although there were occasions where I played more than 1 table at a time).

Ok well if you're still awake,,,,(was only going to be a 2 min intro sry) thanks for reading.

 

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Really nice introduction! 🙂

6 hours ago, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

Anyway...my goal is to start at the bottom, try not to take it too seriously and learn to be disciplined playing online, which has always been my biggest problem with it(other than not knowing whether someone is thinking about a decision or just scratching their arse).I only deposited £50 so that I had no choice but to start at the lowest stakes(already overstepped my boundaries doing the July challenge and messing around a bit but managed to survive). So I have mainly been playing 4NL and almost trebled my BR and have 3500XP and on Level 3. I'm happy with that but i'm going to struggle to get to Level 5 before it resets on October 1st. I think level 5 is where I need to get to avoid dropping back to Level 1? I'm still trying to navigate my way around here and i'm not even sure how the multipliers work yet (i assume it's the rate you earn XP that is multiplied) but it looks like you need to achieve level 7 to earn a living purely on rewards?

 

Regardless of level reached, you'll always start at level one the following quarter. However, the multiplier is carried over if you reach level 6 or 7.

The multiplier is basically rakeback in bonus points which are constantly paid as you play. So you get both these BP and then the tier rewards when reaching a new level (for instance 5-3). If you're level 4, you'll be getting 4.5% of your rake paid in bonus points, as you play. When you reach level 5, this is increased to 6.5%. Level 6 comes with a really nice bump up with 12% in addition to the carry-over for following quarter.

Check out the graph in this post if you want to see how much you get in total at the different levels: 

 

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On 7/25/2022 at 4:01 AM, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

It would be interesting to know what others think is a sustainable and worthwhile level and how they achieve it. I don't want to be living poker 24/7 anymore, just putting in as many hours as I can without burning out and making a few £ at the same time. Also, how do people keep track of win rate, P&L etc on here because I don't think they allow any tracking software?

Nice intro and I can agree that living poker 24/7 (or anything super close to that) is not healthy. As for "sustainable and worthwhile level", it's hard to say, depends on a lot of things. I was able to build a decent bankroll in early 2020 playing for fun, mostly with HU SNG, but everybody has their favorite game, and my guess would be that the more you enjoy a game type, the more likely you are to also profit from it.

I don't really keep track of winrates, but probably you could do it manually in a spreadsheet if you felt like it. I also remember that there used to be a thread on the community to request your results of games that you played in the past (can't find it anymore, I wonder where it is).

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12 hours ago, CuteRaven said:

I found it now @UAC

This is said on the last page:

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Hi all,

This thread will be locked from now on.

Going forward, please submit your results request via Customer Support/Live chat

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Ah this is great, thank you

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A little update while I try to de-tilt myself....

So I deposited £50 with the goal of learning to be disciplined online. It was rarely a problem for me when I played live but the last time I attempted playing online I really struggled with it.

Apart from messing around with these mission things (because I like a challenge) I have been sticking quite religiously to NL4, which I have to admit seemed like a big step down but something I knew I had to do, especially with such a small deposit. I must say that the standard of play I have encountered (generally) is really bad. I think you could actually make a decent living even at that level with enough patience. The problem is that I would never even get close to hitting the higher tiers for rakeback/rewards.

Over the last couple of weeks I had built my bankroll up to just under £220 (euros, cant find the euro symbol) with grit and determination and releasing about £20 in bonuses. Despite losing about £15 playing PLO at silly 'o' clock in the morning trying to complete a mission ( i hate that game really) and going on what can only be described as "monkey tilt" a few days ago. What is it about those damn emotes that wound me up so much. I would like to request a new "dick head" emote please.

So you got it all-in with a gut shot and make it and now you tilt your cap at me and laugh...

 

Ffs Lol GIF by Xtreme Fitness

So after realising I was in tilt mode I decided the only way to get it out of my system was to make a new ID and play like a lunatic, blast some emotes out and generally be an idiot. I had no idea just how addictive it is. Playing without restraint or any care for probability, odds or the fact that the card I need has as much chance of turning up as Elvis. It was so addictive that even when I figured I had done enough to convince the tables I was a lunatic, at a cost of around £20 I struggled to get out of that mode. I had to take a quick break to snap out of it completely and then managed to get it all back plus a small profit before calling it a day.

This was me in full swing....

Hot Shots Idiot GIF

The thing is that during my "spazout" I bust a few people getting really lucky when I had no right to be in the hand. of course I lost it back again, usually to someone else. But that's the thing. Idiots get lucky and destroy your hours of work, only to then go and donate it to someone else. Over time it would hopefully even out and find its way back to you but when you are building up from the start it's very disheartening.

Oh yes...the reason for taking this extended break. After getting my BR to about £220 I decided to have a little wander into 10NL to test the waters and hopefully speed up earning points. Well in my relatively short stint, I came to the conclusion that 10NL is even softer than 4NL. Hard to believe it could be, considering the bar was already very low. I lost a couple of stacks initially when I couldn't hold in flips but then I was sailing quite nicely and destined to increase my bankroll. I decided I was going to take a break and hit "sit out on all tables next BB" Well I wish I had just elected to sit out next hand because holy fck!

You couldn't make it up! Knowing that they just love to go fishing and how addictive it is I stuck plenty of extra tax on. Doesn't matter because a gut shot is still a shot at any price apparently. Followed by running cards to make a straight versus set (that happens so often) and the running cards for a flush and so on. I needed a break now more than ever but like an idiot I wasn't going anywhere until I got it back off them. But no my AK's never won flips or when I made the right calls for stacks with 1 card to come, they hit their 3 outer. To make matters worse they would then leave and come back with a short stack....how is that even allowed!

So what was going to be a nice session turned into a nightmare and -£50+ leaving me with £166. I did blow about £6 of that jumping into a couple of tournaments to blow off steam without going broke. 

I read Poker Monks update and that kind of inspired me to write this so he doesn't feel so lonely and in the hope I will have chilled enough to continue playing. But the truth is that I know I haven't because I'm tempted to just jump straight into NL50 to cut some corners. Presumably the standard is way better there and I can't afford not to be on my "A" game. So the fact that I'm even considering it tells me i'm still on tilt. 

I have no idea what direction I will take now because I'm not confident of being able to remain in control, which is totally alien to me. I'll probably do the sensible thing and drop back down and give up any hope of reaching L6 anytime soon. Maybe even just play tournaments , which is what I enjoyed, if i'm going to give up that goal. But I'm not even sure my game has evolved enough to deal with the modern game. Now it seems like it's so much more of a crap shoot. Even a lot of the Regs I see are just gamblers. There are some very good Regs too of course but right now i'm not one of them.

I'm almost tempted to delete these ramblings, especially as yet again I have written a book. But what the hell, at least I refrained from inserting even more Gif's (I find that quite addictive too). I think all poker players have a compulsive addictive personality to some degree!

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Sorry! Couldn't resist!

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And to be clear, maybe the blogging on online world is literally what you should do. The method has helped a lot of people. Not the whole world, but yourself and alike. Clearly you're good at expressing yourself with pure heart. The difference between livegames and online games for example, is a real thing not many chats about 🙄 which is kinda unfortunate. Who cares to chat with bots? 🙂 Or bot-born dataspewers 🙃

Your take on the playing online has been the most refreshing thing to see for a while, and it certainly fights against the universal apathy of even trying to chat about the human side of perfect gaming. Much respect 👍

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An excellent non blog so far.

7 hours ago, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

A little update while I try to de-tilt myself....

So I deposited £50 with the goal of learning to be disciplined online. It was rarely a problem for me when I played live but the last time I attempted playing online I really struggled with it.   

 That's why so many eventually give up, they haven't the patience to work through the variance.

Apart from messing around with these mission things (because I like a challenge)   

I gave up on those a long time ago, I haven't the patience to work through the variance.  🤣

  I have been sticking quite religiously to NL4, which I have to admit seemed like a big step down but something I knew I had to do, especially with such a small deposit. I must say that the standard of play I have encountered (generally) is really bad. 

I totally agree, but that's where the frustration starts creeping in. You "know" you should be winning here but at times it seems like it's impossible. You're on a table with 5 "bad" players, whatever that means, but each one in turn sucks out on you and disappears, leaving you a few buy ins down and seething. That's when the discipline has to kick in, something I've struggled with over the years and can still do at times. 

I think you could actually make a decent living even at that level with enough patience. The problem is that I would never even get close to hitting the higher tiers for rakeback/rewards.

Isn't that highly dependant on where you're living. The current minimum wage in England is £9.50ph, that's 237.5 bb. Six tables means 600-900 hands per hour, so a win rate of 25-40 bb/100 would be needed. If you won at that rate you should be stepping up. 😎

Over the last couple of weeks I had built my bankroll up to just under £220 (euros, cant find the euro symbol)

Press Ctrl and Alt together and 4 at the same time.€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€

with grit and determination and releasing about £20 in bonuses. Despite losing about £15 playing PLO at silly 'o' clock in the morning trying to complete a mission ( i hate that game really) and going on what can only be described as "monkey tilt" a few days ago. What is it about those damn emotes that wound me up so much. I would like to request a new "dick head" emote please.

So you got it all-in with a gut shot and make it and now you tilt your cap at me and laugh...

 

Ffs Lol GIF by Xtreme Fitness   😬  You can turn them off in settings.

So after realising I was in tilt mode I decided the only way to get it out of my system was to make a new ID and play like a lunatic, blast some emotes out and generally be an idiot. I had no idea just how addictive it is. Playing without restraint or any care for probability, odds or the fact that the card I need has as much chance of turning up as Elvis. It was so addictive that even when I figured I had done enough to convince the tables I was a lunatic, at a cost of around £20 I struggled to get out of that mode. I had to take a quick break to snap out of it completely and then managed to get it all back plus a small profit before calling it a day.

I've got to say it, you were lucky, usually that ends only one way.

This was me in full swing....

Hot Shots Idiot GIF

The thing is that during my "spazout" I bust a few people getting really lucky when I had no right to be in the hand. of course I lost it back again, usually to someone else. But that's the thing. Idiots get lucky and destroy your hours of work, only to then go and donate it to someone else. Over time it would hopefully even out and find its way back to you but when you are building up from the start it's very disheartening.

Patience, variance, etc, see above.

Oh yes...the reason for taking this extended break. After getting my BR to about £220 I decided to have a little wander into 10NL to test the waters and hopefully speed up earning points. Well in my relatively short stint, I came to the conclusion that 10NL is even softer than 4NL. Hard to believe it could be, considering the bar was already very low. I lost a couple of stacks initially when I couldn't hold in flips but then I was sailing quite nicely and destined to increase my bankroll. I decided I was going to take a break and hit "sit out on all tables next BB" Well I wish I had just elected to sit out next hand because holy fck!

You couldn't make it up! Knowing that they just love to go fishing and how addictive it is I stuck plenty of extra tax on. Doesn't matter because a gut shot is still a shot at any price apparently. Followed by running cards to make a straight versus set (that happens so often) and the running cards for a flush and so on. I needed a break now more than ever but like an idiot I wasn't going anywhere until I got it back off them. But no my AK's never won flips or when I made the right calls for stacks with 1 card to come, they hit their 3 outer. To make matters worse they would then leave and come back with a short stack....how is that even allowed!

It's allowed to a limited extent, I think anyone can do it 5 times then they get kicked off for a cooling down.

So what was going to be a nice session turned into a nightmare and -£50+ leaving me with £166. I did blow about £6 of that jumping into a couple of tournaments to blow off steam without going broke. 

Told ya, see above. 

I read Poker Monks update and that kind of inspired me to write this so he doesn't feel so lonely and in the hope I will have chilled enough to continue playing. But the truth is that I know I haven't because I'm tempted to just jump straight into NL50 to cut some corners. Presumably the standard is way better there and I can't afford not to be on my "A" game. So the fact that I'm even considering it tells me i'm still on tilt. 

Let's face it, who among us hasn't considered jumping up 2 or 3 levels to get it all back in one glorious run good session, I certainly have done exactly that, some sucessfully but mostly not. However I gave up chasing a long time ago, levelling up, playing hexas or bounties that I don't enjoy, in fact anything that makes me feel I'm chasing or doing it just for the sake of reaching some arbitrary target. Play what you want, you're not actually missing anything if it makes you uncomfortable while chasing it. 

I have no idea what direction I will take now because I'm not confident of being able to remain in control, which is totally alien to me. I'll probably do the sensible thing and drop back down and give up any hope of reaching L6 anytime soon. Maybe even just play tournaments , which is what I enjoyed, if i'm going to give up that goal. But I'm not even sure my game has evolved enough to deal with the modern game. Now it seems like it's so much more of a crap shoot. Even a lot of the Regs I see are just gamblers. There are some very good Regs too of course but right now i'm not one of them.

And there it is again. I can't stress enough that since I gave up chasing I simply enjoy it so much more. I'm not a good reg, probably not even a good rec, but if I'm happy bumbling about at low levels with no ambitions then so what? From what I've read here I think you'll be ok and soon crushing. 👍

I'm almost tempted to delete these ramblings, especially as yet again I have written a book. But what the hell, at least I refrained from inserting even more Gif's (I find that quite addictive too). I think all poker players have a compulsive addictive personality to some degree!

Over It Abandon Thread GIF

Sorry! Couldn't resist!

Certainly don't delete, there are not enough ramblings like this. 😃 My intention when I started was to take a different approach to a blog but that fizzled out somewhat, this has inspired me  (writing wise mainly ) and I hope many more.

 

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8 hours ago, Rushbie said:

No-one could say it out loud any better, man 😂

The purity of post is simply brilliant 😎

The world needs more honest ranters like you 🙂🍻

Cheers

6 hours ago, Rushbie said:

And to be clear, maybe the blogging on online world is literally what you should do. The method has helped a lot of people. Not the whole world, but yourself and alike. Clearly you're good at expressing yourself with pure heart. The difference between livegames and online games for example, is a real thing not many chats about 🙄 which is kinda unfortunate. Who cares to chat with bots? 🙂 Or bot-born dataspewers 🙃

Your take on the playing online has been the most refreshing thing to see for a while, and it certainly fights against the universal apathy of even trying to chat about the human side of perfect gaming. Much respect 👍

Very kind words thank you.☺️  I never know how it will come across, especially when it's written late at night or in the heat of the moment but it was really nice to read your reaction to it. Yes the difference between "Live" and "Online" is night and day for so many reasons.

 

1 hour ago, Jami-Unibet said:

Hey @AbvUrPlayGrd, first thing you should do is go to the settings and turn the emotes off, that way you won't be tilted by them!

I didn't know I could do that thanks. I should be ok dealing with them now that I've experienced their effects and I think I can now turn them to my advantage. Still would be nice to add a couple more though 😁

I know that UB take a different approach to the likes of PS with regard to using software and anonymity etc but would it be possible to at least introduce the option to colour code players. It wouldn't alter anything in terms of anonymity because you can still take notes on a player manually, it would just save a lot of time and make life easier?

43 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

Press Ctrl and Alt together and 4 at the same time.€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€

Ah thanks! I will forget in no time at all but I can always come back here and have a look or just be lazy and use the £ symbol. I can use the £ symbol to report wins and the € symbol to report losses for a psychological advantage 😁

44 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

I've got to say it, you were lucky, usually that ends only one way.

Yes I was. I only recovered the €20 back because I started playing sensibly again but the reality is that I will never get that €20 back. It's like a missed sale.

59 minutes ago, GR1ZZL3R said:

Certainly don't delete, there are not enough ramblings like this. 😃 My intention when I started was to take a different approach to a blog but that fizzled out somewhat, this has inspired me  (writing wise mainly ) and I hope many more.

I'm pleased my ramblings have inspired you. Many words of wisdom and you have a great sense of humour, something that is definitely required in poker. I'm very slowly working my way through other peoples blogs when I get the chance.

As for continuing myself I can't say. I would like to think I will do the odd update without too many rants. The main problem is that it can take a long time for me to write something like that these days (about 2 hrs) which is due to MS apparently. Although keeping me off the poker tables for a couple of hours may not always be a bad thing🤣

 

 

 

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I'm going to take my own advice and do a little update instead of continuing to play, even though I feel totally fine.

I think I played extremely well overall today in cash games and still managed to lose 7 or 8 buyins. One of those was probably a little bit of a suspect call but the rest were just the poker Gods punishing me for getting quads v flush near the start of the session.

I was going to upload the screenshots as most people do but it seems like it would take me forever to find them, snip them, edit the names and then upload them so I must be doing it the wrong way? I won't bore you with a blow by blow but it would have tested a saint. 

I played 4 of the Wild Wednesday tournaments for a bit of fun and cashed in 2 to reduce my losses by a few €'s. I was lucky to cash in one of them after making a schoolboy error near the money bubble. Folded to SB who just made up and I Jammed without much thought with Q9s and ran into QQ which crippled me. Had I thought about it I would have just checked at that point but I was too busy checking replays( and wondering why my BB's were disappearing without any apparent reason from one hand to another, like 3 bb's or so sometimes, way above ante's and not in the blinds, was happening to others too). Anyway I jammed my way back into it and survived long enough to return a profit. Ironically it was when I actually jammed with a hand that I went out. JJ v KT & AK  and obviously it's the least likely K they hit.

Such is life!

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14 hours ago, Jami-Unibet said:

go to the settings and turn the emotes off, that way you won't be tilted by them!

TY. Good to know. It might come in useful sometimes for me too 😄

12 hours ago, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

I would like to think I will do the odd update without too many rants.

I'm enjoying these updates/rants, so I'm happy to see them as long as you enjoy posting them! I think online it's in some ways it's harder to control your play sometimes because you are often multitabling and making fast decisions (when you go autopilot emotions can take over quite fast). Also when you are playing online there's no people around you to be "ashamed" in front of when you punt off 100 BB with A4 suited preflop. I think many people would be affected by that sort of "peer pressure" when playing live 🤔

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@CuteRaven Yay! I worked out how to do that! I don't mind and it's also self serving. I will only post when I feel the need for whatever reason. I've actually posted way more than I expected already. If one other person gets something out of something I post (other than me) even just a laugh (possibly at m expense) then I'm happy.

You are absolutely spot on. You can't really go into the tank on a decision and so one table is really all you could reasonably do at a time to observe every single thing that goes on, to help you make that difficult decision in the allotted time. But it's really not practical, especially at low stakes and so you have to just make the best decision you can and accept that the more tables you play, the more mistakes you are going to make. Then yes its easy to get into a bad frame of mind.

As for the peer pressure live. I agree it was definitely a factor for me and many others and was also a useable weapon against some. My style of play and reputation did allow me a little more wiggle room in that respect but nobody wants to be witnessed spewing a stack on a badly orchestrated bluff or terrible call. I think it's still relevant online to an extent, especially on sites where you are tracked.

I think if it was ever looked into, we would find that there is a direct correlation between the type of player and their level of concern about shame, to some extent. My observation so far anyway.

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13 minutes ago, Rushbie said:

Would you like somebody to play the game for you? 😄

Maybe Viktor Blom?

Clearly an inspiration 😎

20 minutes ago, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

we would find that there is a direct correlation between the type of player and their level of concern about shame

Yeah I think you are right. There are probably a few interesting connections between personality type and play style.

I have made some questionable punts/bluffs live too (the very few times that I have ever played) but not nearly as bad as I do sometimes online.

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BR is up and down like a yoyo currently £150

Best call of the day so far...

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I was convinced he had been bluffing pots prior to this one and this was either nuts or nothing ,so went with my gut. 

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Taking me ages to do these and I need to get back to losing money, so here's the shortened version of my worst call of the day (so far). I actually nearly folded if I had gone with my gut but a little voice kept saying "yeah but what if he's just clueless and has a flush because there was no indication he held an ace, made up SB, chk flop, small bet on turn and jammed river. ☺️

Back to the fun!

 

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Nice to see I've inspired someone to write a post 😆 this game can be brutal at times and I'm sure there are high stakes pros who wouldn't be able to beat these micro stakes 😂

AQo hand, seems like a big iso pre vs minraise. Donk can be anything depending on villains tendencies, hate it when I miss and rec villain is sticky. Raise seems fine but not if he never folds, think I would just call having Qs and see what happens on turn. After turn x I just want to see it get x down on river, vs overbet jam... think fold is standard unless you have a read villain is crazy. Having Qs is not ideal now as you block some flush combos. Think I rather wait for a better spot, you will have better hands here anyway.

Q4o hand seems fine, not loving the spot but if you are going to fold bottom boat then we are probably overfolding especially vs recs as they can spaz with anything at times. Think it's an easy fold vs nit regs though lol.

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On 8/4/2022 at 6:53 PM, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

Best call of the day so far...

Nice call! Iso pre seems quite big, but it seems good as an exploit if they call loose. I like the flop raise against bluffy players, I don't think villains lead makes much sense (Maybe they feel they have more 7x than you if they call 3bets very loose but otherwise it doesn't make sense to me). The flop raise also usually buys you a free turn. On the river I don't think they jam other hands for value than 7x (maybe KJ or KQ) and draws missed so I like the call if you think villain is bluffy!

On 8/4/2022 at 6:53 PM, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

my worst call of the day

You were only about 40 bigs effective so I don't think it's too bad, unless you have a good read on villain that they are value heavy (with only Ax in their value range) when they take this line.

I'm mostly an SNG player though and you get worse pot odds in cash games because of rake, so probably folding more than what I think is best is a good idea :P.

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22 hours ago, P0kerM0nk said:

Nice to see I've inspired someone to write a post 😆 this game can be brutal at times and I'm sure there are high stakes pros who wouldn't be able to beat these micro stakes 😂

Indeed you did 😄  Absolutely spot on. We used to discuss that very thing often and the consensus of opinion was that most would be lucky to make a final table in local games, let alone win it 2 or 3 weeks running. Cash would be much the same at the lower stakes because it's a different world. 

The raise pre was to isolate at the same time as getting some extra value from a call station. I tend to add some extra tax with players like that when I know they are likely to call with any 2 they fancy regardless.

5 hours ago, CuteRaven said:

Nice call! Iso pre seems quite big, but it seems good as an exploit if they call loose.

Yes, puts more in the pot for the majority of times they miss or bluff. The problem is I can't catch a break at the moment. Losing when i'm ahead and losing when i'm behind. I'm also not playing well generally  Not to worry though because I've ordered some rungood on Amazon Prime 😂Area 51 Running GIF by MOODMAN

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Quick (hopefully) post, just because I like to take the micky out of myself as much as the next person...

It appears I won 5x 40c supermoon tickets in a freeroll that I never even attended (note to self, sit out and you will be more successful). So I decided to buy into 4 flips and 1 satellite. 

It's all going nicely and I haven't lost a single hand I played. Every time it went to showdown I had a big hand and i'm getting lots of respect at the table (really surprising in a 40c sat) and before long i'm chip leader by quite a way. I look at the lobby and see that there are 6 seats and 7 left(7 on my table). I scan the table and the nearest threat has less than half of my stack and there are a couple of real shorties on my table so I just jam every hand picking up blinds.

Then the table lights up for final table! I had totally misread the lobby 😊 That was lucky! Never mind, we soon reach the real bubble so I carry on, there are 2 players running on fumes and some crazy on my left who has plenty of chips calls with K6o when I have TT and gets there. Then she calls me again and wins! Obviously didn't get the memo. Time goes on, shorties won't die and this happens..

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So far shorties keep surviving and i'm in the blinds next so not taking any chances. I can't jam because of call station on my left and I really didn't expect anyone else to do anything rash...

Wrong!

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All goes in on the flop..couldn't make it up but I guess I deserved it for not just going for a lie down and leaving them to it earlier 🤣

On a more positive note I won 2 tickets in the flips!

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OK I had to return the "run good" to Amazon because it's obviously faulty.

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The chips all went in pre on all of them. This was a €5 buy-in not a freeroll. He did this with any2 with anyone and was massive chip leader.

Is it a full moon or something!

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1 hour ago, AbvUrPlayGrd said:

OK I had to return the "run good" to Amazon because it's obviously faulty.

You need to get the more expensive bounty tournament edition. The standard run good package wasn't designed to withstand players as crazy as coco4742!

Unfortunate run, as fun as bounty tournaments are (my favorite one is space madness) the variance is pretty brutal sometimes 😛

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