WuDu Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 How is wikileaks able to publish all that top secret information? How were the Panama papers being published? What about Edward Snowden and the NSA? If Journalists do their job, the truth will come out even if it's much more secretive than health records...If you're interested, I can recommend you "All the President's Men" and "Citizenfour", those are good movies/documentaries about journalism.What I have been critizing the mainstream media for before is that instead of delivering the truth to its customers about both candidates, stations like ABC, CBS, CNN and NBC take the news and spin them in a certain direction and/or refuse to question what the Clinton campaign is offering them. If she had been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, why did the Clinton campaign not mention it until Sunday afternoon? Why did they say she was dehydrated and overheated on a 25°C morning? Why was she not rushed to a hospital after collapsing? Why did she step out of her daughters appartment building telling the waiting journalists that she's all good, not mentioning her "pneumonia"?If the media were doing its job, they would dig a little deeper and follow up on these questions... We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 @WuDu wrote: In case something major does indeed happen (Islamic terror attack, wikileaks releasing the next batch of hacked emails, Hillary going to the hospital, record shootings/murders in Chicago on Labor Day Weekend), this should only lead to Trump's poll numbers rising and his odds falling. ...and there we have the Islamic terror attacks. Shrapnel bombs in Manhattan planted by an Afghan-American who immigrated to the US with 29 people injured and 8 people stabbed in Minnesota by a Somali in a mall who was then shot by an off-duty police officer. If her collapse on 9/11 or the whole "deplorable"-episode didn't kill Hillary's chances, this is it, especially since those attacks happened in 3 states that voted for the Democrats in the 2012 presidential election (Minnesota, New Jersey, New York).Trump is down to 2.35 at Unibet but to me, that's still massive value. Don't forget, the debates are coming up in one week and wikileaks still hasn't published its new documents yet.Right now, I would even think odds of 2.00 for Trump would represent value to bettors because to me odds of 1.80 would be fair right now. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi guys,The first presidential debate is upon us and I already have my popcorn ready! I took the bet of Trump winning on September 1st after his short trip to Mexico and his great speach on immigration a day later at 3,25. Today his odds are 2,30, so the odds moved 0,95 points in our direction, which is an excellent development for our bet and even better than I projected. Like I mentioned before, I still see solid value in those odds but if you want to place a bet on Trump, do so before the debates as I believe, Hillary will be exposed to the broad public and the odds will drop.Hillary disappeared from the campaign trail the past week to prepare and rest 🆒 and since there is no drug testing I expect her to show up at the debate being medicated to the brim. Standing 90 minutes under hot TV lights, full on meds, being stressed out by a crazy madman next to her, playing a role and defending lies and past actions is pretty tough, especially when you're in poor physical shape.Don't get me wrong, I totally expect the NBC host of the debate to do everything he can to help Hillary through the debate and attack Trump, while the media and the expert panels will do their part as well to announce her the winner afterwards. Totally expected. However only 32 % of the American public have trust in the mainstream media telling them the truth, thus online polls afterwards will show the true opinion of the American public.If you're brutally honest in your analysis, Hillary has nothing running for her, besides "I'm a woman, vote for me goddammit" and "Trump is evil because I say so", but instead of running out the clock and hoping to finally make it to the finish line as the winner, she's now behind in almost every major poll, meaning she will be attacking him hard labeling him sexist, racist and so on, because she has nothing else going for her... the interesting part is whether Trump will fight back and turn the debate to a mud fight... We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Odds on Trump now 2.75, and rightfully so, if you ask me - I've to agree with the mainstream media that Clinton is the clear winner of the first debate (didn't watch the first 10-15 min). Will be interesting to see how the polls are affected :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Betting public at Unibet thinks Clinton won, as the odds are now at 2.75 for Trump to win, up 0,45 from yesterday and I think that only represents better value for potential bettors. I know, you have to take online polls with a grain of salt but at Time Magazine with over 1,6 M votes, Trump leads 55-45 and at the CNBC poll with almost 1 M votes, he's ahead 67-33. He lost big at CNN, however they polled a focus group of just 520 people, with most of them being Democrats.Regarding the debate, I watched the whole thing albeit I have to say I almost fell asleep towards the end. Trump clearly won the first part with all the important topics (Intl. trade, security in the US, security abroad) but I feel during the second part Trump didn't look so good anymore because he let Hillary, with the help of the moderator, take over the narrative of the debate. I mean, who cares about Barry Obama's birth certificate, some lawsuit against him from the 70s or his tax plan? I feel he spent too much time trying to explain stuff which is either irrelevant or too complicated for TV. I mean at the time of the Iraq war, he was a TV clown and a businessman and they talk about whether or not he voiced his support on the Howard Stern show! :laugh: Clinton was a senator at that time, who actually voted for said war!Also, he had multiple kill shots on Hillary he let pass and topics like the Clinton Foundation, Libya and Benghazi and Bill Clinton weren't even mentioned once. I assume, Team Trump decides to save those things for the final debate, which takes place on much friendlier turf at Fox.All in all, I think, the debate was a toss up. Hillary was pretty good at memorizing and saying her lines after going MIA for a week, but have you heard anything concrete from her? Nope, me neither. Trump sometimes had a rough delivery but at least he came over as honest. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicadil Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Show me the polls where he's ahead 67-33.When Hillary wins you will go on the watchlist. Please repent for all the misinformation you're spreading. I debateShould I smile like everything's good and pretend that life is greatOr should I let the world see the real me and not hide this painI tried to be like the rest of y'all, sorry I just can'tI'ma probably die this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Poll by TIME MagazineCNBC pollYou need to scroll down a little and cast your vote for Hillary, then you'll see. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 Trump now up to 2.8 at Unibet, representing incredible value and if the money continues to back Clinton, I might even place another bet on Trump. Why? Because poll numbers don't reflect that increase:LA Times pollAnother interesting bit from the LA Times poll is that Hillary's support among blacks is tumbling down to just 74.3 % while Trump right now stands at 18,2 %. Obama in 2012 managed a black voter turnout of 67% with 93 % of blacks voting for him. If the LA Times poll is close to being accurate, those are a lot of votes the Democrats have to get elsewhere... We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I do think the most recent polls justify the increase in the odds - we can then discuss if the odds were to high to begin with :)So far it looks like it'll be one of the most significant debate bumps since 76. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 The Donald is back down to 2,65 at Unibet. Honestly, that's really a pity as to me the 0,5 points uptick after the first debate had no reasoning at all and I was already thinking about placing another bet once the odds climb back to 3,00. Funny thing would be if Clinton goes back into hiding again after the debate and the odds get back to the 2,30 area...much ado about nothing. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 Hi guys,Trump to win now stands at 3.30 at Unibet and even a little higher at the competition. I took my bet on September 1st at 3.25, he then went up to 3.3 and over the course of September fell down to 2.3 before the first debate. That means in just 1 week after the debate, Trump climbed 1,00 points. Great, 5 weeks of blocking my money for nothing...😃Honestly, I have no idea what those bettors from outside the US are seeing here, but to me those odds are Manna from heaven :inlove: The LA Times poll, quoted a little earlier here, didn't move much at all...I never thought I'd do it, but I'm considering placing another bet on Trump at these odds in case I run hot over the next few days playing SNG10.Tomorrow at 10 AM, wikileaks is hosting a news conference in Berlin, let's see whether or not they just celebrate 10 years of wikileaks or drop the October surprise on Hillary and the Dems. The next debate, hosted by the Clinton News Network takes place next Sunday. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Wow, Mike Pence wiped the floor with Tim Kaine yesterday during the VP debate, despite the fact that the moderator did everything in her power to help the Dems. Too bad nobody cares about the VP debate, but concerning my Trump bet at least yesterday's performance definitely won't harm it.Trump to win now stays stable at 3.30 and I'm looking forward to placing another bet. To me the estimated value of this bet is yuuuuuge, since yesterday showed one more time that the Clinton/Kaine ticket plain and simple lacks any kind of vision. The interesting part will be whether the odds might move after Sunday's debate or not. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 Trump now up to 3.5 at Unibet and the competition as well. Yesterday I reloaded and took him for the same amount again at 3.4, because just like I said earlier, those odds are completely out of reason. Since the first presidential debate, which I have as a draw between the candidates, his odds to win went up by 1,20 points, the polls however didn't move that much. Since the VP debate he climbed another 0,2 points despite Pence making Kaine his girlfriend. To me that doesn't add up and my guess is that with the first debate a lot of low information bettors from all over the world tried to make a quick and "secure" buck betting on the favorite here----> value, value, value.The next debate takes place on Sunday and I'm expecting a much better performance from Trump since it's a townhall meeting, meaning a little less opportunities for the moderators to rig the debates like we've seen in the first two. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTBC Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I'm goinna play at 3.5. The US looks screwed either way and much like how I see UK politics you're basically voting for who you think is the lesser of the two evils :)Trump appears to be pro poker in the US too so if he wins and starts several wars we might get to crush american poker whales again 🆒 Have you read my blog HERE... It's long isn't it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 @MoreTBC wrote: I'm gonna play at 3.5. The US looks screwed either way and much like how I see UK politics you're basically voting for who you think is the lesser of the two evils :)It's not like he's going up against Winston Churchill, that's the whole point of this bet...Trump is far from perfect and whether or not his ideas would work in case he was elected is totally up in the air, so the lesser of the two evils might very well apply. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startelver Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 My bet is on Hillary but the odds are too low so I stay away . Sorry but Trump will not win this , not that I care much anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 If I were to place a bet on Trump, I'd probably wait till after the next debate. I expect Trump to do even worse in the next one - it certainly wasn't a draw in the first one: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#plus - because the format doesn't suit him at all. I don't think there's any way back for him after the next debate, but the odds should be significantly higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 538 has been bought by ESPN, which belongs to Disney-ABC, which is part of the liberal/globalist mainstream media opposing Trump. I'd take those predictions with a grain of salt, especially if you consider that 538 gave every swing state except Nevada to Clinton.16 months ago, 538 didn't even believe that Trump would be the GOP nominee:http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-real-candidate-in-one-chart/I quote: "Trump has a better chance of cameoing in another “Home Alone” movie with Macaulay Culkin — or playing in the NBA Finals — than winning the Republican nomination." OUCH.I guess our opinion differs regarding the first debate, however could you mention even one aspect where Hillary said something concrete about her political plans as president? Going from one lenghty memorized talking point to another talking point while being carried by the moderator is a little less for my taste to be called a winner.In contrast to you, I believe the townhall meeting format benefits Trump tremendously. Trump is a likeable dude and much better at interacting with regular people, Clinton on the other side is unlikeable and playing a role in public. Of course, the media will try to spin the result in Clinton's favor afterwards, but I don't believe the odds for Trump to win will increase further...and if they do, maybe I reload another time. :Cheeky: We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 Trump now up to 3,75 at Unibet, with even higher odds than the competition. Seems to me a lot of Unibet bettors get their news straight from CNN. 😀 Well, if you watched on Friday night, you saw why they're called the Clinton News Network. This will be an interesting debate, as now the gloves are off and he can bring up Bill Clinton's and her past as well. I don't know whether that whole stunt was such a good idea for Hillary, but it did it's job as no one is talking about the wikileaks emails distributed yesterday which have been very juicy... We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicadil Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Did you listen to audio tapes of Trump admitting to sexually assaulting women? And his apology where he deflects and goes after Bill & Hillary? He's done. After the debate his odds will be 5.00 or higher but true odds currently should be around 50.00.It will be fun to see all the mad Trump fans when she completely massacres him 🤣 I debateShould I smile like everything's good and pretend that life is greatOr should I let the world see the real me and not hide this painI tried to be like the rest of y'all, sorry I just can'tI'ma probably die this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 @Magicadil wrote: Did you listen to audio tapes of Trump admitting to sexually assaulting women? And his apology where he deflects and goes after Bill & Hillary? He's done. After the debate his odds will be 5.00 or higher but true odds currently should be around 50.00.It will be fun to see all the mad Trump fans when she completely massacres him 🤣I call your sexual assault claim and raise you with Paula Jones and her 850.000 $ settlement...Buddy, I've heard way worse stuff from friends about female anatomy, female preferences and female body functions and I don't even talk about stuff like that in public. Believe me, that was nothing. But LOL at libs not understanding what "they even LET you do it, if you're famous" means. The ones offended by him the most are people that wouldn't even vote for him in the first place...But I think that was great strategy from the Clinton camp and her allies in the media: Turning this election into a mud-slinging contest where she hopes to play the women card and rally as many low info women voters as possible is way more promising than defending corruption, lies and incompetence on her part. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 As expected, the odds on Trump has increased a little and is now at 4.25.The debate last night was a disgrace. Neither Trump nor Hillary wanted to talk politics. US politics have always been a bit special, but this time it's just embarrassing for the entire nation - it's reality TV. Even the most simple of questions they don't answer but start:They were both horrible yesterday, but Trump didn't do as bad as I think many expected. This was primarily due to the fact that they didn't talk much politics. I still don't think there's value in the Trump bet, but with his performance yesterday, the upcoming debate with Chris Wallace as moderator and the increase in the odds, it's starting to look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 To be precise, you said that the odds will increase because of Trump's bad performance, well, that isn't true. Over the weekend the odds climbed to 4.25 before the debate, which was due to the tape from Friday and the hyperbole coverage from CNN. Now at 4.25 the odds are stable since the debate.Trump clearly won the debate, no doubt. Of course CNN will tell you differently but well, He had some slow first 10 minutes but after the tape question, he went off on her. Both Trump and Clinton never really answered the questions that were directed to them from the audience but that was expected. I think what you are underestimating is that people don't expect Trump to give polished answers, since he's not a career pol. On the flipside even the most polished answer from Hillary will be taken with a grain of salt, since her ratings, even among registered democrats, when it comes to honesty and trustworthyness are so low (Public opinion, private opinion...). We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonusPater Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 @WuDu wrote:@testuser1To be precise, you said that the odds will increase because of Trump's bad performance, well, that isn't true. Over the weekend the odds climbed to 4.25 before the debate, which was due to the tape from Friday and the hyperbole coverage from CNN. Now at 4.25 the odds are stable since the debate.Trump clearly won the debate, no doubt. Of course CNN will tell you differently but well, He had some slow first 10 minutes but after the tape question, he went off on her. Both Trump and Clinton never really answered the questions that were directed to them from the audience but that was expected. I think what you are underestimating is that people don't expect Trump to give polished answers, since he's not a career pol. On the flipside even the most polished answer from Hillary will be taken with a grain of salt, since her ratings, even among registered democrats, when it comes to honesty and trustworthyness are so low (Public opinion, private opinion...).Odds on Trump now 4.75, so I don't think you can call him the winner of the debate. The polls will tell in the coming days, but the betting market has him as the loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Trump now at 5.25, damn, this is Brexit territory now with odds completely out of whack. I was a little too early placing my bets, otherwise they would have been even juicier, but that's betting. You're right, the odds moved up after the debate, but you're wrong about the reasons: It wasn't Trumps performance drivng them up, it was CNN's biased reporting about it to the European low-info audience. We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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