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tbh letting the extra variance sink in is harder then i mentioned in previous post :) 
one of the main reasons why i did choose for hexas instead of sngs was not for the variance / lottery as i am trying not to be a gambler xd for example i never ever do casino or sport betting as it's -ev guaranteed..  but it was just the player pool ..

this is the reason why i don't want to go back to the sngs, today i have been watching the activity in 5man sng's and it looks it's getting worse compared to q4 2019..
for example if the unibet field would be
avg 20 people €200 5man sng
avg 20-30 people €100 5man sng
avg 40-50 people €50 5man sng
avg 50+ people €25 5man sng

then i would never ever even watched the hexas.. as i know my sng play isn't the best but in skill level i think i am avg+ in it based on my 1k results ..
but ye .. why did developers create spin and go | hexas haha = dead to sngs... (i know why.. big moneys in rake .. :p )
current stats -€36 but adjusted roi €-4,98 --> payed rake already in my sample €13,706.. :p 

 

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haha i am crying xd

tought lets do a new one and have a 10x jackpot wich was loong ago xd 

preflop

fishr raise 2x

hasedabae fold

i call as it is in my chart

 

flop:

i check 

Fishr raises half pot

i check raise hem

BAM in my face 'again' xD

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Analysis by a Rec.

1. It's the first hand and the button raises, I'm out of position, I fold.......100%...........

2. ...... BUT, if it was 97s I might have called or.......

3. .....  if I'd seen villain play before and knew he was loose, I might have called...........

4. .......or I might just call because I feel like it.............

5. .......or I might think "They're all trying it on at this level" and called..........

6. ......or I might just fold. I'm out of position and going to have to act first on the flop, basically not having a single clue about my opponent or what he's likely to have or do.

7.       I don't play Hexas.😃

8.      Which brings me to the point @GamesDean made earlier, if you'd folded you wouldn't know wether you'd been lucky or not. You were lucky to hit the flop so hard but unlucky villain hit it slightly harder. On balance I'd say you were 0lucky. When he raises you've really no idea what he's got, an overpair, AK, 44, a flush draw, overcards, absolutely nothing, anything, whatever. You can't really fold so just have to go with it. Definitely 0lucky.

9.     You certainly look busy and very involved in the maths etc, good luck in your efforts.👍 

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"It turns out that 75% of all poker players think they play better than the other 75%."     image.png.99a4e82708d54abfc527324e8836768e.png

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thx for analysis :) ye it's a real wide west .. :p

what i am trying to do is play as recommended in my course ( i have watched the full course and made a summary already )

and one of the rules in that course is call with 97o vs minraise on btn in BB defend and never donck but check call flop with OESD, flushdraws, gutshot with backdoor flushdraws, overcards, .. and mid pairs and checkraise with tptk, trips, low set , 2pair, nutflushdraws A or K that was the reason why i played that hand that way :)

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@Petit_pertotal wrote:

haha i am crying xd

tought lets do a new one and have a 10x jackpot wich was loong ago xd 

preflop

fishr raise 2x

hasedabae fold

i call as it is in my chart

 

flop:

i check 

Fishr raises half pot

i check raise hem

BAM in my face 'again' xD

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Analysis by a Rec.

1. It's the first hand and the button raises, I'm out of position, I fold.......100%...........

2. ...... BUT, if it was 97s I might have called or.......

3. .....  if I'd seen villain play before and knew he was loose, I might have called...........

4. .......or I might just call because I feel like it.............

5. .......or I might think "They're all trying it on at this level" and called..........

6. ......or I might just fold. I'm out of position and going to have to act first on the flop, basically not having a single clue about my opponent or what he's likely to have or do.

7.       I don't play Hexas.😃

8.      Which brings me to the point @GamesDean made earlier, if you'd folded you wouldn't know wether you'd been lucky or not. You were lucky to hit the flop so hard but unlucky villain hit it slightly harder. On balance I'd say you were 0lucky. When he raises you've really no idea what he's got, an overpair, AK, 44, a flush draw, overcards, absolutely nothing, anything, whatever. You can't really fold so just have to go with it. Definitely 0lucky.

9.     You certainly look busy and very involved in the maths etc, good luck in your efforts.👍 


Easy defend imo Gr1z, getting 3.5/1 on a call for just 4% more of our stack.  The lower stakes you play and more likely the opponents are to overvalue their hands the wider we should be defending.  

In a €1 game not a single rec is not going broke with AA on a 994cc but in a €100 a reg will only look to get 2 streets of value to protect against 9x.  

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How many Hexas have you played so far?The rake and variance of Hexas are pretty brutal. But you seem dedicated and like you definately know quite well what you are doing! Your ROI looks ok. Good luck, sail the seas of variance and at some point you will probably get out of the storm :)

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not allot in hexa sample .. :)
200 games and as you need avg 5k + sample size it's a long way to go xd and it's already hard for me right now xd

because as i said before my game plan is to specialize and grind it up and stay in that game type but thinking about the fact that if i ever would make it to €10 hexas and have swings of hunders and hunders of euros .. :p brrrr xd 

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200€ 5Man SNGs don´t actually exist on unibet as a matter of fact. 

My hope is that by sitting 25€s to 100€s relentlessly every day I might encourage other people to do the same and build up a small playerpool. Every player solves 20% of the problem so it doesn´t take too much to get the games running. Yesterday there were two 50€s and one 100€ running simultaniously and the 25€s have exceeded 50 players sometimes in the past so there might be some hope.

 

@GR1ZZL3R 

As brocky pointed out it´s a standard defend with those odds.

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currently adjusted roi -2,6 buyins
real roi - 36 buyins

but i did notice something big in the blind structure because i was playing on stars aswell so i could have chip ev graphs and data to analyse..

the spins on stars are way less variance! 

the reason why is the blind structure, check the difference:

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with other words, the tactic is actually still the same as in spins but on unibet you have a double chance for variance compared to spin and gos.. because the blind level (actually more than double variance here on unibet.. as 75% of the time you are < 3m blind lvls here and 50% on stars.. and the other 50% on stars is 2m blind lvls which is 1m here..)

 

for the first time almost ever.. i do have to say... pokerstars is way better if you want to grind hyper lottery sngs compared to unibet ^^

also this will change my action plan what i would do further.. play this challenge on another platform or do another challenge.. as i like the player pool here more..

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have been playing on other poker websites and the gamble part is really an enourmous difference between unibet and the others ..
This does not mean i will be playing on other websites ..
as pokerstars has super high rake 9%
Partypoker being banned in belgium (but it's available as bwin)
but bwin doesn't allow hand history exports .. (and 8% rake but with nice rakeback if you grind)

btw i am not advertising any other websites ore something it was just a sng lottery compare..

ok update, and last one for hexa pro (i do have to say that it's stupid to end the spin grind as i am knowing almost all the ranges in every situation out of my head o thx studying and playing only spins.. )

also i think it's possible to beat the rake but it's not worth the time i think their are better grind methods.. if the rake would be 1% less or the blinds 1m more it's something totally different. 

games played 250

itm% : 36%
adjusted roi%: -0,64%
adjusted roi on sample: -€1,60
real roi%: -14,6%
real roi on sample: -€36,50
payed rake:  €17,13

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€1,50 (143x)
€3 (69x)
€5 (27x)
€10 (11x)

 

€1,5 (143)
1st: 38,46%
2nd: 39,86%
3rd: 21,67%

€3 (69)
1st: 39,13%
2nd: 49,37%
3rd: 14,49%

€5  (27)
1st: 22,22%
2nd: 48,14%
3rd:  33,33%

€10 (11)
1st: 18,18%
2nd: 27;27%
3rd:  54,54%

 

 

 

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Other providers are worse in almost every aspect. I played some 6max hypers on 888 last month. More rake, less time and the games aren´t softer either. Really makes me appreciate Unibet even more.

Do you single table Hexas? Whenever I look in the lobby the playerpool for 50€ and 100€ Hexas is <5. I am wondering if there are regular games there at all.

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hi @Dennis_ 

ye it's one tabling for me.. 
My plan was to if i grind full time to do it 4 tabling..

btw check this... 10m ago..

my 10th 1$ game.. 25x.. (btw i know i can guess uploading content from another platform isn't allowed or at least not cool.. so i won't do this often.. i just wanne tell my poker story on global level instead of just the client we normally use)

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ye but tbh what i would love is to grind not the hardest games but the semi games prob around 10 and keep grinding them if you have a good rakeback setup but what you say is correct that's why i have a custom bankroll plan that i was planning to show in march when i would "official start"

and this was for one tabling the whole way untill you are in a comfortable spot but as you can see their i never did write even above €25 as my ambition is €25 grinding with a decent player pool or €10

also i do know from the guys from op-poker where i did follow the course that the "sng lottery pro's " 4table.

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*this dynamic BRM has a 1/4 chance of moving down in stake even you have the correct itm% 
so if you go from 1 to 25 in this chart with a constant of xx itm% you will have to move down at least once normally (big bankroll shifts with this setup but also a BRM that can let you grow fast if you don't mind moving down again ) 

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this will be my last blog post for a while as i do not want to show content from other platforms as i don't think unibet would like it.

i will give weekly / monthly updates on my youtube channel..

in case you would like to see my grinding going please subscribe to my youtube account :) 

first video is already online

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOcu5So7kJSnxKLZjZtppRA

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