WarawaDK Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 This week I have been getting slaughtered in tournaments.And this is not due to me playing badly.Im getting beat by hands that dont make sense.Here are some examples.I have K J Spades.I have 35000 chips.Im on the button.It goes around and three people call 500 I raise to 2000.2 callers.The big blind and the guy after him.The flop comes 3 K 9.Big blind checks.The guy after him bets 500.I raise 3500.Big blind folds.The guy after him raises 10500.I call.The turn comes.Q. The guy goes all in.I call.His cards are turned over he has 3 5.The river comes a 5.I have pocket aces.Im the big blind.It goes around the table with 4 callers and myself.I 3x bet the blind.I player folds.The flop comes 4 7 J.I bet the pot.This is a big bet because we are down to the last ten players left in the tournament.(little over a third of my stack and im chip leader)2 players fold the other player goes all in.He has me covered.I call.His cards are turned over.He has pocket 3s.The turn comes a K. And the river comes a 3. This hand really made no sense because it was at the end of the tournament and to get there you could not play like that.I could go on with this and i have been beatin all week at the end of tournaments with hands like these that just dont make any sense.I do live in Canada though where Online Gaming/Gambling is Exempt from the Criminal Code of Canada/Bots are legal and software can legaly be manipulated.So im not suprised.Oh and if you want to look that up about the Laws and Regulations for Online Gaming/Gambling in Canada you could find it in 2017 but this year the legislation has been pulled and is currently under review so its really hard to find.But what i said is Pathetic.But its true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 @WarawaDK sorry to hear that you are in a bad sequence...stay positive if you keep get it in in good it will eventually pay off! atleast we have a game, where we can make some bucks on the side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kliedz_Zivju Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 i get beats like this quite often on unibet i think the players are just really bad? i play cash so if i bust i can just reload and get my money back over time and more awful plays. tornys and sit n go get very frustrating tho. i guess pot control with a pair in a volitile situation? fair enough these guys are lucky fish i imagine taking these lines against a better player youll still end up loosing as barrellling such big bets just makes your oponents range so strong, the guy calling down could just think hes bluff catching for example as if you betting so big you must have alot of bluffs in your range? if you having a bad week maybe try work on your pot control till you feel that the downswing is ending and pots are starting too fall your way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsAF Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 @WarawaDKYou know the cards are not manipulatable ;) even not in canada.All decisions are made server side, so who gets which cards and which cards will come at what spot. Also the coming cards are all picked and send at the moment they are revealed. So you can never know the river up untill the river comes (unlike with a real book of cards where you can take a peek)+ Unibet is based in malta, no regulations from canada apply on the site ;)edit after @Kliedz_Zivju's message: INdeed, I feel controlling the pot is important in these situations. In fact, this guy has even more often a set than a low pocket pairs in that situation, so calling from you would have been bad aswell ;) And if you controlled the pot, you would lose less with your fold. I see now that the circumstances of ones birth are irrelevant... It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Did you read the last paragraph i wrote.(BIG HINT) I would never ever deposit money to any ONLINE gaming gambling site.In Canada we have a big fat Zero for PROTECTION FOR ONLINE Gaming/Gambling.My uncle had a saying it goes like this.Do you know what lottery tickets are Kevin?I went on to say its about a big prize bla bla bla.He stops me and says Kevin Lottery tickets are a TAX for Dummies.Im sorry for us Canadians but our goverment is currently rewriting our legislation for online gaming gambling and until some laws are implemented for Canadian citizins you will never take anything out.You will only put in.You might get a little here and there just to keep you coming back.BUT THATS IT IN CANADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 @WarawaDK your understanding of gambling commission + gambling website in canada or NOT is wrong! just erroned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoryureppa Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Turn the tilt switch off!Ive been getting and giving bad beats 🤣this is poker it happens. @WarawaDK I’m really sorry if you’re pissed and what not but we all need vent time. I hope you make a huge bounce back and share some bad beats of your own 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startelver Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Sorry whats the point witk this thread? That Unibet is rigged ? I have been there many times and it happens. You need to put in a volume and play at least 100 games before you can talk about always losing with the best hand. In the long run you should not lose if you play good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sect7G Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 It happens. I mean today I actually lost playing SNG's. It's true. Me... actually lost. It seems ludicrous but it's true. Obviously I was bad beated many many times... but that's only because I'm so much better than my opponents that it seems impossible that I could get it all in with the worst of it. Therefore the bad beats are just proof of my superiority over all other players. What I just wrote and the first part of the OP are in fact similar. And btw I actually did lose a bit today and tbh it was for this reason. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 I have physicaly read all 600 pages of rules and regulations for Edmonton, Alberta ,Canada.Are you saying i dont know how to read.I really don"t get that comment.(Your understanding of the gambling commission+gambling website in Canada or NOT is wrong!just erroned)You obviously have not read the rules and regulation for online Gaming/Gambling in Canada.And we dont have a gambling commision+gambling website.It happens to be called in Alberta ,The Alberta Liquor and Gaming Commision.Gambling in Canada is illegal.So the way the Canadian Goverment has gotten around the justice system is through what us Canadians call RED TAPE.The Canadian Goverment has changed the name of GAMBLING to GAMING.This is why in Canada Online Gaming/Gambling is Exempt from the Criminal Code of Canada.Being exempt from the criminal code means Canadians have know protection LEGALLY.And any site can do whatever they want.It states in the regulation and i quote,Online Gaming/Gambling is Exempt from the Criminal Code of Canada,Bots are legal,Software can be legally manipulated.THAT IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE REGULATION IN CANADA,ALBERTA 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 @WarawaDKfirst of all unibet is an operator regulated under 'uk based gambling comission' most likely under 'alderney gambling commission ,which is pretty much the nuts in term of realibility ! sec...me im from quebec,canada ! just like your state ' the gambling commission is regulated by the governement ' ! btw international operator are not ruled by any canadian laws to this days,,,because we dont even have 1....belive it or not if we did have laws,it would not be to enhance the game..we talking about restrictive laws, it would be much more harder to send and cashout money on other operator then the one owned by our governement!! in quebec is't called ' espace jeux ' !! they upgraded their casino in the past year , not bad but the rtp is horrible and poker software is the old boss media one ,pratically unplayable ....obv gotta take in consideration that ist not owned by a private compagny ! when it come down to bots,cheat...cheeky river ect you must look at the very big picture ...player pool vs player retention on the sites ect ! unibet is money in the bank imo...beside the fail of the mtt games , they grinding it out...you need to be very patien what goes around come around :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris1285 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1-2 always, but sometimes even 5 euro tourneys are like that in Unibet. When after a 4x preflop raise you see the 2 6 10 rainbow flop w pocket aces in your hand, be aware you loose 🤣 You beat them most of the time, as they say on the "long run". Well, i dont know how long is that, i didnt arrive yet 🤣If painful beats:- this morning Omaha shooting star (better shouting) , i have FH, the guy royal flush...- yesterday singularity at the bubble. 3 of us about the same stacksize, 2 needs to survive. Im BB, SB minraise not the first time, but instead instafold, i reraise shove w AKs about 7 BB. Guy got AJo. Great. Flop nothing, great. Turn nothing, great. Have a smile on my face, yeah man, i will double up for the moniezzz. River J... Bubbled the third time this week, and didnt play much more than that 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Yo Pitt Pitt.You claim to be from Canada.You say your from Quebec.And in your last statement you call Quebec a state.Well it just so happens that in Canada there called PROVINCES not STATES.And every Canadian citizen knows this and certainly dont call our provices STATES.Thats the U S A.So i dont think your from Quebec at all.As a matter of fact i dont think you live in Canada at all.And i dont need to argue about simple facts.Im sharing the reality of online gaming gambling for CANADIANS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingsAF Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 @WarawaDK that's a case of translation.If you translate province from French to English it can be translated freely to state... So if Pitpit is from the French part of Canada this could occur. BTW. You can call it whatever you want. A state and a Province is exactly the same... Also, you ignore the fact everytime someone here says that Unibet isn't regulated in Canada. Unibet is regulated according to all laws of all countries players can register from. This are countries like Belgium, which has one of the strictest gambling commisions. And I'm 100% botting is illegal in Belgium ;)So your Canadian rulebook thingy is 100% invalid in this discussion. P.s. Can you give me the chapter and paragraph of the lawbook where this is stated on bots? I see now that the circumstances of ones birth are irrelevant... It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sect7G Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 @WarawaDK it seems that you are telling a story about mixing in bad beats/bad players and perhaps some riggie for good measure... and then somehow tie this to laws of you're not quite sure of and then some more random ramble for no apparent reason. -cliffs of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Canadian rulebook thingy.Really.You want the facts.Here is a phone number for the AGLC.780-447-8600.There not Canadian rulebook thingys.They are Canadian Laws.And you can not find any information for online gambling in Canada right now if your looking ONLINE because the Canadian goverment has currently pulled the legislation for online gaming/gambling and it is currently under review so offshore gaming/gambling sites can no longer use bots or be able to manipulate software legally.So.If you really want to know the facts on what im saying.PICK UP THE PHONE.Call.Any Canadian citizen has a right to all and any legislation.And when you call very simply ask the question,are bots legal and can software be legally manipulated for online gaming/gambling.That sir is a direct quote from the legislation about bots and software from the legislation from 2017 for online gaming/gambling.Its absolutly pathetic that our goverment allows this to occur but guess what.THEY TAX THE MONEY.Which in reality makes absolutly no sense because 4 billion dollars anually leaves Canada due to online gaming gambling so its huge money.And according to the Canadian LAWS and the goverment well the goverment here doesnt follow the rule of law.It instead bends the law with red tape.Its all a huge Scam all the way around and the people paying ARE CANADIAN CITIZENS.And if you keep going on about this im going to go and find an actual copy of the legislation and post it.And believe me Unibet will be pissed if i do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Laws im not sure of.Very simply read what ive stated.I have done a lot of research into these laws and understand them very well.I have stated in very simple terms to everyone interested into the facts on online gaming /gambling in Canada.It should be plain to anyone why someone would try to sidetrack or cover up these LAWS. 4 billion dollars annually leaves Canada due to online gaming/gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 @WarawaDK now you just the perfect exemple of how bad beat can have a profond affect on somebody belief and logic <<<<im trying to find the right words but i rarely speak in english except on the internet <<<but im sure you understand what im trying to say ! now if you think you know more stuff about online gaming then me or anybody else on here...just think twice about it ,it is probably a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Your profound ignorance is your own problem.Just keep donating your hard earned money to unibet.Im sure the guys driving the maserati,s love people like you.Bad beat.LOLmore like big cheat.Its like i said i would never put money into an online site.I dont care.Im just informing simply because many Canadians are unaware of the way these offshore sites are operating according to our laws.Its the Canadian goverment thats to blame for this.My goverment.And it makes me want to vomit.P.S I only started playing freerolls on Unibet.I won quite a few tournaments for about 2 months.But because i wont make a deposit now its not even fun anymore because i keep getting beat with hands that are obliviously odvious cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 VikingsAF. French translation for the word state from English to French. STATE/ENGLISH ETAT/FRENCH,CANADIANand the word PROVINCE in French Canadian is said in English and French as this,PROVINCE. So we dont talk like that.Even the French,Canadians.Sorry to burst your bubble bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny2192 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 @WarawaDK wrote:Your profound ignorance is your own problem.Just keep donating your hard earned money to unibet.Im sure the guys driving the maserati,s love people like you.Bad beat.LOLmore like big cheat.Its like i said i would never put money into an online site.I dont care.Im just informing simply because many Canadians are unaware of the way these offshore sites are operating according to our laws.Its the Canadian goverment thats to blame for this.My goverment.And it makes me want to vomit.P.S I only started playing freerolls on Unibet.I won quite a few tournaments for about 2 months.But because i wont make a deposit now its not even fun anymore because i keep getting beat with hands that are obliviously odvious cheats.What you deposit has absolutely nothing to do with anything, I never deposit on Unibet except to add a new bank card so i can withdraw, Last year I had a break from poker and won a 10e mtt on twitch in Sept2017 from that 10e tix I made 5440e on Unibet poker by christmas. Any winning poker players I know would make an initial deposit and then not need to deposit again as in the long run they win. If they didnt then they would play somewhere else where they can win. So by rigging it as you say Unibet would end up with 0 players.As others have said Unibet follow the gambling laws of all countries, so even if there was a country that said its legal for Unibet to have a bot to mug everyone they still wouldnt do it because everywhere else says they cant(also having met most of the poker team, I feel they would get new jobs rather than do something so unethical). By your reasoning you make it sound like the server checks your country first and then sees your Canadian and then decides because of your local laws(which I havent got a clue if they are as stated by you) That its ok to bad beat you. So not only is the client rigged but its also been programmed to be racist?Another thing with Unibet and laws, one thing I have noticed with unibet is they seem to err on the side of caution when laws are involved, On this very community site its not allowed to give access to Dutch players just to be on the safe side.PS.Having said all this and in case im wrong, If there are five Canadians that would like to play NL400 I am up for it because from reading this post I can just shove any two cards and win 2000e per hand in a 6 way all in risk free 🤣. You can exchange UO tickets again all is unicorns and rainbows in Unibet land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarawaDK Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Like i said ignorance is not my problem.And if you truly believe that offshore sites dont take full advantage of each countries laws well you must be the worlds most honest super hero poker player.SERIOUSLY.I am not saying unibet is doing anything anybody would not do.It is my countrys fault for allowing this crap to occur.It is my goverment that should be criminaly charged for extortion.It is not Unibets fault.They are simply taking advantage of my goverments faults.Which anybody would do because thats what people do.And yes unibet does take full advantage of these laws.And stop with the NONSENSE.Oh unibet is so ethical they would never do that.GET OVER YOURSELF.CANADIAN CITIZENS ARE THE ONES BEING BENT OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny2192 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Changed title to fit in with the content. 🤣 You can exchange UO tickets again all is unicorns and rainbows in Unibet land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpitt Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 you play micro game and freeroll loll what you expect ? most micro stacker dont respect the 'unsaid law' ....like barrelling 3 street with second pair ! when you play higher ,the guy with second pair 'is supose to chek the flop ,then fire on turn to value his second pair '..otherwise a good player will take advantage of that ! freerollers an casual micro stacker fundamental structure is not there...so the laws of physics doesnt apply lollbtw all that rambling over freeroll game....you dont want to be losing so you dont deposit and play freerolls? i been there done that back in a day ' in 2007 2008 and since then i made unberable amount of money playing online poker to you...i mean you clearly wasting your time just step up your game a notch ,life is too short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imdenuts Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Seriously? give the man some milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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