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11 hours ago, psrquack said:

If Unibet is a betting/casino site offering a small piece of poker then why we have only poker related mods and nobody is helping to solve Casino/betting issues?🤔

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Same reason poker forums and socials are huge compared to sports and casino -especially when looking relative to total global product revenue 🙂

Think I've mentioned it on here several times before, but we never had high hopes for casino - casino socials are an uphill struggle in general. Sports we were hoping would perform better than it's been the case, but the product team engagement ultimately was decisive. The poker team were extremely engaged from day 1 and the guys had a headstart with Twitch. Now it's a huge task to change this, and I don't think the sports team got the necessary resources, which is a big shame, as there's heaps of potential in UAT testing and more customer involvement in the product development.

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I have tried to investigate the possible changes around the local gambling market started on the first of January and figured out there will be a big change for me. I'm pretty sure I will be forced to close my current account and open a new one in local currency if Unibet will gain the licence. The big question is will Unibet battle for the licence and will gain it at the end?

My big investigation (some minutes of searching) says there is no information about it. I have tried asking here, visiting Kindred homepage, surfed through 2 local forums and there isn't any official statement that Unibet got the licence, applied to the licence and will continue operating here after the 1st of January.

This means hard times will come after tomorrow. Government could easily cut down acces to Unibet for players from here from Monday, saying the curcumstances of operating are clear and if operator's don't follow the rules they should find their luck elsewhere. Operators won't offer alernative links to players (like gamblingoperator2.com) like they did in the past, because in the past it was not any option to legally operate here. This will be changing from tomorrow.

So, if access to Unibet will be cut for me, then I will lose some tickets to Supernova (worth less to €2) and some time till the licence become alive. But how long will it be?

If Unibet already made and apply for the licence I expect a month or so. If not then 1-3 months at least. Because nobody won't be illegal during the application period there is a big chance service will cut down for that period, like a goodwill gesture from the operators side. I don't know what was the reason, but Party/bwin suddenly closed the betting service for this country some days ago. Fun fact, that poker remained.

Obviously they are other things what will be change form the 1st of January. You can't make a deposit from cards they are out of the legislation and acceptance of the Local National Bank. This means you can't make a withdrawal too. So if you have a Revolut or Wise card or your foreign bank account are not on the list, you won't be able to use them for the local market's gambling sites.

Long story short: I except a grey zone for some time (hopefully this will be a short period), with a high chance of unable services and a must to convert my account's currency to local one. This means another verification process which could last from 2 weeks to month too. Shortcut: not using any card to deposit/or no deposit at all will shorten the way.

I wil see what will happen, and hope the best.

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We have still 2-3 years of carefree gambling left until it's licenced and most likely overregulated to the point that there is no sense to play anymore. Just a huntch based on how regulated our Veikkaus is (no bonuses, freebies, rakeback) and how our moral posers make laws that ain't made to benefit majority but protect minority. Thankfully Estonia is just ferry ride away, i guess it would make sense to move there sooner already for cheaper living (and drinks 😄 )

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On 1/1/2023 at 4:30 PM, Livertool said:

We have still 2-3 years of carefree gambling left until it's licenced and most likely overregulated to the point that there is no sense to play anymore. Just a huntch based on how regulated our Veikkaus is (no bonuses, freebies, rakeback) and how our moral posers make laws that ain't made to benefit majority but protect minority. Thankfully Estonia is just ferry ride away, i guess it would make sense to move there sooner already for cheaper living (and drinks 😄 )

Or do we? Have i got some bonus/promo ban or everything empty for others too? Not just empty bonus section but absolutely no offers in promo zone for casino or sports for whole year and we are already two weeks into it. Blackjack happy hour is all i see besides bingo and poker promotions???

@Purps @Rushbie @GotKot99

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19 minutes ago, Livertool said:

bonus/promo ban or everything empty for others too?

Hah, no promo ban or anything the slightest.. The people getting those poker promos for example, are all raking a ton. Dont quote me here, but 200€+ a month rake produced,  maybe 1k systematically.
And from that sum the AI algorithm makes assumptions, which the proper bonus could be for the persona, based on its raking profile.
That's not always what it should be. That's why ppl sometimes cancels it.
It's a carrot. Not a bounty already had.
Haven't got one yet either 😄

 

 

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15 hours ago, Rushbie said:

Hah, no promo ban or anything the slightest.. The people getting those poker promos for example, are all raking a ton. Dont quote me here, but 200€+ a month rake produced,  maybe 1k systematically.
And from that sum the AI algorithm makes assumptions, which the proper bonus could be for the persona, based on its raking profile.
That's not always what it should be. That's why ppl sometimes cancels it.
It's a carrot. Not a bounty already had.
Haven't got one yet either 😄

 

 

Yeah, didn't have a clue about amounts of raking needed but now we have some clue. But wasn't asking really about poker promos cause i got no time to play atm but casino and betting section has been really dead. I guess it is dead for all then but that is not bad either, like putting money in the bank 😄

Other casinos/sites has been lacking promos too so maybe this is new normal then, just raffles and casino tournaments is all i see 🤮

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43 minutes ago, Livertool said:

Yeah, didn't have a clue about amounts of raking needed but now we have some clue. But wasn't asking really about poker promos cause i got no time to play atm but casino and betting section has been really dead. I guess it is dead for all then but that is not bad either, like putting money in the bank 😄

Other casinos/sites has been lacking promos too so maybe this is new normal then, just raffles and casino tournaments is all i see 🤮

Agree, but I have to make a little correction. I still have a pending bet builder bonus available for the World Cup games only with no expiration time.😅

What I constatly have (every Thursday) a deposit up tp €50 to get 25% more bonus for casino with 20x wagering requirement (best) for casino and games and 40x for live casino(worst). The tricky part is only slots belong to 100% wagering requirents all table games and video poker tries gives only 10% of your stake to the wagering requirents and this stipulation is valid for all live casino games, so it could be you deposit €50, got €12,5 pending bonus money and you should rake €5000 at the live casino to clear the €12,5 bonus which is unreal. But If I like slots then I should wager €250 for the 12,5 what is still an easy to skip offer.

Compairing this to other competitior where I have got  a casino deposit bonus up to €25 (100%) offer twice since 2023 started. Wagering requirement is 10x. My activity is the same, playing freerolls and if i won something then poker.

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31 minutes ago, psrquack said:

Agree, but I have to make a little correction. I still have a pending bet builder bonus available for the World Cup games only with no expiration time.😅

What I constatly have (every Thursday) a deposit up tp €50 to get 25% more bonus for casino with 20x wagering requirement (best) for casino and games and 40x for live casino(worst). The tricky part is only slots belong to 100% wagering requirents all table games and video poker tries gives only 10% of your stake to the wagering requirents and this stipulation is valid for all live casino games, so it could be you deposit €50, got €12,5 pending bonus money and you should rake €5000 at the live casino to clear the €12,5 bonus which is unreal. But If I like slots then I should wager €250 for the 12,5 what is still an easy to skip offer.

Compairing this to other competitior where I have got  a casino deposit bonus up to €25 (100%) offer twice since 2023 started. Wagering requirement is 10x. My activity is the same, playing freerolls and if i won something then poker.

I got email 23th of december that f1 still has two races to go so join in to our f1 competition. Season was over long time ago 😂 Same email also promoted world cup guess wrong competition, only month too late.

10% wagering in live casinos is quite standard but good thing with unibet is (at least here) that there is no max stake. So if you feel like gambling, you can for example try your luck with live casino roulette black or red with whole 62,5€ and if it hits then you have 125€ to wager 250€ in slots so that is totally doable. Ofc it can go terrible wrong too and deposit lasts one spin of roulette 😬

10x wager is pretty good, i would take them any day of week :D

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36 minutes ago, Livertool said:

I got email 23th of december that f1 still has two races to go so join in to our f1 competition. Season was over long time ago 😂 Same email also promoted world cup guess wrong competition, only month too late.

10% wagering in live casinos is quite standard but good thing with unibet is (at least here) that there is no max stake. So if you feel like gambling, you can for example try your luck with live casino roulette black or red with whole 62,5€ and if it hits then you have 125€ to wager 250€ in slots so that is totally doable. Ofc it can go terrible wrong too and deposit lasts one spin of roulette 😬

10x wager is pretty good, i would take them any day of week 😄

Well, maybe it was too much party time and department missed the events.😀

This is a good idea, thanks.💪

I'm not an expert of live casino things, what is wrong to me the headline deposit x with y wagering requirents and in the terms there is a sentence, the y could be y*10 in many cases. I don't find it fair, but I know this is a part of business.

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I think some recreational withdrawal should be introduced to tame players who made a lot of deposits but don't use the other way often. Once a year you should get a pop up with "Congratulations, your withdrawal is on your way! Thanks for using our products, keep up the good work" and the sum would be 1 c or so.

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21 minutes ago, psrquack said:

It's very annoying reading those unanswered withdraw/bonus issues. Those guys deserve more attention and care. Hire Mr. Tool to take care those cases. He will do it for a bunch of breads.🥰

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I think you need another ingredient to go with the bread for Mr. @Livertool or "Sauna Men" has @Stubbe-Unibet calls him to even consider it. 😁

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Applying for the local licence is now possible. It could last 6 months till the gain. The main question is Unibet is a betting company with small poker revenue or a poker company with a small betting revenue. If the first, then they will get the licence but maybe they will close the poker section. If second is true then poker will be available without licencing troubles but betting will be terminated. Ther es no third option gaining licence for betting and poker (casino) too. Interesting, we will see what will happen.

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1 hour ago, Livertool said:

Don't understand but then again i ain't at highest level of duck speech 😄

What comes to ban, should be incoming in 5, 4, 3....

Check the community discord post. There is a space for mods. I thought someone with tool would be ideal for the (ban)hammer position.🤭

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On 12/7/2022 at 8:43 AM, psrquack said:

After playing majors 2 days in the row (thanks for the opportunity again) it was cleary to me long lasting tournaments are not my cup of tea, but they have the potential to make a good kickstarter for the bankroll challenge so i have modified my 1 year challenge. requirements. Btw, the will start today and the goal is to finish itm at the Omaha 1500 Wrap or equivalent Major tourney.  Any results will come after the end of the first quarter 2023.

After removing the bounties from the Omaha freeroll this one will be much harder. I have to accumulate 100 bonus points from freerolls, but hey, nighmare is my Doom difficulty.😁

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