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I'm being forced to gamble 5X higher than i wanted by Unibet


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-Because Unibet won't leave my buyin to DSO, who are sub, 'French' department...

- Some time ago i won a UKtour package on Unibet through an affiliate promotion. (Intended to bring new gamblers to House...)
I played quite a few now events across Europe so -i bought plane ticket to London, intended to play in a UK event... I got denied a UK visa.
-Unibet exchanged it to UOpen SATELLITE tickets.
Time passed by, i was uncomfortable with playing for only potential 1100eur wager- 2000 eur 'package' ... An other idea came to me.

-I didn't know about DSO then. So i asked Unibet to exchange those mine tickets (i have Exactly, 550eur in tickets), for a -DSO seat. So i could use my buyin on a lower more reasonable, wager.
'Unibet Live' keeps refusing that.
I have even been insulted with ''You shouldn't play for package if you couldn't get visa, you got GOODWILL' ...
1. MPN, PokerStars, and Party, they all just exchange players in such cases ,  and NEVER for higher wager. I can prove for each one.
2. How could I know i'd be denied a visa, ...
2. I played a Tournament League which awarded cash as well. I just  happened to win, 1st - a package.
There are DSO satellites in Unibet main lobby, just like UO...

I am being forced from a 220 GBP buyin (UK tour) to gambling for much higher (1100eur, just a UO, entry, and that is just if i DO qualify, again)...
Because DSO are an other, ''French'' department.
-It is ~8X, if you count in total price of UO package, which i MUST WIN, AGAIN, to even have a CHANCE to win some -cash... you see the trick.
-Initially, i played for a tournament where i would organize my trip, on my own (budget). Sorry, but i also don't feel like again, paying ~150eur a night (price via UO package) for a room in Bucharest in November...

I would much prefer arranging my trip on my own and playing one of 550eur DSO events. I have, Schengen...
I have been dealing with Unibet Live for TWO WEEKS , who wouldnt even, for some reason, answer ONCE, my emails, questions and arguments). They funneled money there, and won't let it leave Their product, UOpen.
Before i file with regulators, i would like to have an answer, from as high, above, in Unibet. This is rather serious. 

-Could I just have a DSO seat for my tickets, earned for a much lower buyin, and not be Forced to a much higher, gamble (their beloved UOpen) ?

Edit by Jeppe-Unibet: Edited unecessary personal information.

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LOL at you wanting to file a complaint with the authorities 🤣

There’s only an issue because of you failing to get a visa, and you can hardly blame Unibet for that (or, checking your post history you probably could 🤣)

I’m not saying your request is stupid, but your reaction and threat is ridiculous and makes me wonder if you’re all there 🤣

Good luck :)

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Well none of us can exchange our UO tickets to something else.

One thing i don't understand is. Why would you complain about a package room price ? Isn't that already paid in the UO the package so you pay nothing ? That package is the buyin money +room money +some expenses money  + added stuff like players party, community freeroll etc no ?

While on DSO seat only you pay everything.

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- I'd have to win a (UO) package again to even have a chance  play for cash. That, alone... -MY UO tickets were exchanged, from something else.
Then from that 2000eur, only if i win again, i should pay notoriously overpriced Unibet rooms (Wynn, Vegas, last year, higher than TripAdvisor public price) -150 eur for a night in Bucharest, also, just the last time.


@testuser1wrote:

wonder if you’re all there 🤣


 You were the Unibet employee which wouldn't change my name to tableNoPop. But sent me intimidating PMs...
What is now your problem with ''my post history''? Me fuming about Unibet putting Casino buttons right over main poker button, to increase missclicks to Casino, by poker players ? Oh, you also do a betting blog ?
(Desperately hoping to get employed again) An ex employee, should show up to talk to me, like this ?

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@tableNOpopZZwrote:

 -i bought plane ticket to London, intended to play in a UK event... I got denied a UK visa.

 


First and foremost, who buys a plane ticket before having the visa in hand? :speechless:

Second, you have to show way more effort. Millions of people managed to get into the EU without a visa over the last years, why can't you? Find a nice Eastern European state where the borders are pretty open (Poland maybe), take the train or hitchhike to Calais (maybe spend some time in the JUNGLE and meet a nice and diverse group of people there), sneak into a lorry and go through the tunnel or stow away on a ferry and cross the canal. Enter the UK, take a bus to the location of the UK tour event, enter the event, ship the whole thing ----> PROFIT!

You're welcome.

 

We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!"
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@tableNOpopZZwrote:

@testuser1wrote:

wonder if you’re all there 🤣


 You were the Unibet employee which wouldn't change my name to tableNoPop. But sent me intimidating PMs...

What is now your problem with ''my post history''? Me fuming about Unibet putting Casino buttons right over main poker button, to increase missclicks to Casino, by poker players ? Oh, you also do a betting blog ?

(Desperately hoping to get employed again) An ex employee, should show up to talk to me, like this ?


You're cute ♥️ ♥️ 

Seriously, I wish you the best of luck, I'm just trying to tell you that you've got nothing to complain about, and threatening like you do is just retarded.

NB please post the intimidating PMs ♥️

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@WuDuwrote:


@tableNOpopZZwrote:

 -i bought plane ticket to London, intended to play in a UK event... I got denied a UK visa.

 


First and foremost, who buys a plane ticket before having the visa in hand? :speechless:

Second, you have to show way more effort. Millions of people managed to get into the EU without a visa over the last years, why can't you? Find a nice Eastern European state where the borders are pretty open (Poland maybe), take the train or hitchhike to Calais (maybe spend some time in the JUNGLE and meet a nice and diverse group of people there), sneak into a lorry and go through the tunnel or stow away on a ferry and cross the canal. Enter the UK, take a bus to the location of the UK tour event, enter the event, ship the whole thing ----> PROFIT!

You're welcome.

 


This is pure gold! 🤣 🤣 🤣

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@WuDuwrote:


@tableNOpopZZwrote:

 -i bought plane ticket to London, intended to play in a UK event... I got denied a UK visa.

 


First and foremost, who buys a plane ticket before having the visa in hand? :speechless:

Second, you have to show way more effort. Millions of people managed to get into the EU without a visa over the last years, why can't you? Find a nice Eastern European state where the borders are pretty open (Poland maybe), take the train or hitchhike to Calais (maybe spend some time in the JUNGLE and meet a nice and diverse group of people there), sneak into a lorry and go through the tunnel or stow away on a ferry and cross the canal. Enter the UK, take a bus to the location of the UK tour event, enter the event, ship the whole thing ----> PROFIT!

You're welcome.

 


And from there you can continue your journey to Finland, apply for asylum and then you have to choices: stay here and live for absolutely free and wait for decision and if negative you will get free flight to home or volunteer to go home before decision is made and get free flights and up to 1500€ pocket money, all profit 😃

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@tableNOpopZZ Consider this post your final warning - if you keep breaking community guidelines I will have to remove your writing privileges. 

This is the second topic you've created in the last few days talking very negative about us, and in both of them you have left out key information in order to try and make us look bad. First, by including a screenshot of a chat with a live agent, indicating that the agent would not give the information you asked for, but when checking the full chat history it's clear that the information was given right after the point to where you had snipped your screenshot. Then, when called out on it by a Unibet employee here on the community, you've simply elected not to respond(was a waste of time looking into it for you). If you're looking for that post now, don't bother, because I've removed it from the forum as it was fake information intended to put is in a bad light.

Regarding your case: The poker team has been helpful right from the point where you let us know, that you couldn't get a Visa after already purchasing a flight ticket. @Kris-Unibet was in touch with you directly and was nothing but helpful to you - even though whether you make it to an event or not due to Visa issues being out of our control. He offered to give you tickets for the value of the package instead, something he didn't have to as we had already applied travel money to your account and had a seat for you at the UK Tour - both things promised in the qualifier series. You yourself chose Unibet Open tickets, we did not do that for you.

I've seen the correspondance you had with Kris, and for you to come back now and say in emails that he has mental health issues and what not after him offering personal help the way he did, months ago, when you came to us after being denied a Visa - I'm honestly shocked.  

You've been abusive to him, you've been abusive in emails to Customer Support in the past and you post here on the community purposely distorting facts. Once again: consider this your last chance to stay in active mode here, writing access to the community is a privelige and not a right - and if it's not possible for you to write in a way that follows community guidelines, I will highly advise that you just focus on your pending contact with the MGA - whom we'll be happy to share any and all information with about your case(we cannot do it here due to it being personal account information of yours).

Best regards,

Jeppe

 

Former Community Manager
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... you edited my post so now it looks like i claimed something totally different...
-that no one from UnibetLive answered my emails. One their member, kept answering, inexplicably ignoring all arguments i raised. That is why after two weeks i lost all patience and once used a qualification about him with other Unibet staff, and i have been threatened that that Won't be tolerated as well... And the head of Live -never found it appropriate to address my arguments...

Then you used such edited post to discredit me...
My original email, explaining again what you also keep ignoring/ twisting- that i wasn't even informed about DSO. Also, that for BOTH UKTour or DSO i could go on 3 nights  of my own accommodation, while UOpen package sells to players no less than 5 overpriced hotel nights...
Another thing you will not respond too of course...

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And that was meekly carefully composed to a person which wouldn't answer emails in few short days of planing a trip to UK, this is how EVENTS 'was helpful to you' (me):
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'Customer service', for being prevented from attending UK event, few days before it.... I challenge you to post any proof of how i was ''abusive'', after this.

You also deleted the other topic cause it ''makes us look bad''... But you couldn't deny the issue- that it takes ~a dozen of requests with different employees for a customer to even be advised how to Take it out of the house. About a very serious issue that you wouldn't address and that your Ex Employee recognized as


@testuser1wrote:

I’m not saying your request is stupid


But then


@testuser1wrote:

you've got nothing to complain about, and threatening like you do is just retarded.

 And you are now threatening, me, with ''removal of privileges''... ?

But hey, there are bonuses -for sports betting, right.
For your Community campers who give you Likes hoping for freebies and further favors here and there...
And yes i believe that ''Former Employee'' would be much more transparent than ''community manager'' since he wasn't an enthusiast volunteer he was a full time payed contracted Company Representative...

I am screenshoting each word in this post, for a chance that it gets altered again.
I am travelling to Megastack San Remo soon, and instead of preparing for a week long trip through 3 countries... I asked for one of those tickets of mine which would expire before i return, to be extended, and 15 hours later, it hasn't even been extended, and obviously won't be extended for some reason, before tomorrow, at least ...

In San Remo i will be the guy wearing gear of -Stars/ EPT, RedbetLive, MPNPT, CashGameFestival, Redkings, GrandLive, MegaPokerSeries, PAFLive, ... All live events with which attending i never experienced anything like this, playing and winning multiple live events with some of them.
So i welcome any Unibet Community fellas who would Like how i am Retarded to approach me and offer some Unmoderated, -moderated by impartial casino SanRemo + PS staff, opposite arguments to this issue.
If there are any, aside of street fights gifs.

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Dude, you can't read, so there's not really any point in replying. I'll keep it short and let an employee answer the important parts of your post.
- I'm not an employee any more than you
- Not threatening you with anything
- Your way of handling this whole deal is stupid (retarded may have been a bit too much) - think Jeppe's post shows that pretty clearly.
- I said it's retarded to threaten, not retarded to complain
- The two quotes don't really contradict each other, so don't know what you're on about
- Where are the oh so offending and threatening PM's? 🤣
- The subject of your post is "I'm being forced to gamble 5X higher than i wanted by Unibet", when you failed to get a visa, and you chose to exchange it to UO tickets (even though you're not entitled to any exchange). Need I say more? 🤣

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@tableNOpopZZ Here is your case from start to finish:

  1. You won a UK Tour package through the qualification system.
  2. We provided you with travel money.
  3. We provided you with a seat for the tournament.
  4. You couldn't make it because of your Visa request was denied.

Points 1-3 were in our control and we upheld our part, but we don't have anything to do with Visa applications and how these are handled by the different local governments in which the Unibet live tournaments take part it.

Everything outside of 1-3 has been an extra service and cost from our side. You asked yourself specifically for UO tickets when given the offer of compensation(that we didn't have to give), we could not know, that you weren't aware of the DSO excisting. 

My opinion is that you twist and distort information when it suits your casue - no I have not changed the meaning of your post, I edited out personal information of Unibet employees who has been trying to help you(remember that outside of 1-3, we didn't have to do anything). And no, I did not remove your past post because it made us look bad, I removed it because the screenshot provided and headline written by yourself, gave the indication that you didn't get the help asked for - which was flat out incorrect.

Once again I'd advise you to focus your energy and effort on contacting the MGA. We're not going to change our decision on the tickets and plenty of people have already spent quite a bit of time, on offering and giving you a compensation of your own choosing. It's good that you only "once used that qualification about him", but you still did it and it's very unbecoming. And no, the "head of live" never found it appropiate to use time adressing your arguments, because that had already happened by the previous employee you were in contact with and the final decision was within his role.
It's also the same reason I won't go through each part of your post on this issue, because the decision has already been made and not subject to change - as in, nothing you say or do here will make us do a ticket exchange that we wouldn't do for any other player either. If you really feel strongly about your points here, reaching out to the MGA is the way to go and we'll answer all questions once they get in touch with us.

Best regards,

Jeppe

Former Community Manager
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  • 1 month later...

@tableNOpopZZ wrote:

 


 You were the Unibet employee which wouldn't change my name to tableNoPop. But sent me intimidating PMs...

What is now your problem with ''my post history''? Me fuming about Unibet putting Casino buttons right over main poker button, to increase missclicks to Casino, by poker players ? Oh, you also do a betting blog ?

(Desperately hoping to get employed again) An ex employee, should show up to talk to me, like this ?


 

are you serious???but really serious??? No comment, not worth it

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@WuDu wrote:


@tableNOpopZZwrote:

 -i bought plane ticket to London, intended to play in a UK event... I got denied a UK visa.

 


First and foremost, who buys a plane ticket before having the visa in hand? :speechless:

Second, you have to show way more effort. Millions of people managed to get into the EU without a visa over the last years, why can't you? Find a nice Eastern European state where the borders are pretty open (Poland maybe), take the train or hitchhike to Calais (maybe spend some time in the JUNGLE and meet a nice and diverse group of people there), sneak into a lorry and go through the tunnel or stow away on a ferry and cross the canal. Enter the UK, take a bus to the location of the UK tour event, enter the event, ship the whole thing ----> PROFIT!

You're welcome.

 


ohhh couldnt you have adviced that faster??? its so much cheaper this way ,i keep it in mind 🤣

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