Livertool Posted May 19 Author Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, cris1285 said: You can't win three matchups by luck What three matchups? Some old matches against Bayern? Never said Real has sucked every match that they have played nor Pep matches are always good but last year Real lucked out and this year they ran out of luck. And same against Liverpool too recently, Real has sucked big time but unlike Pep Klopp didn't manage to break Real tactics. So credit must be given were it should go. 1 hour ago, cris1285 said: Obviously, can't be inconsistent with 16-18 quality players. No? Lots of examples of that happening. Just look at what Chelsea has been doing for years already. Everyone they get turns to bad in there, including quality players from City like Sterling. And how much quality players they are before they play under Pep? I think Wudu's post says a lot: 😂 On 4/11/2023 at 11:03 PM, WuDu said: 4 former BVB players rostered for Shitty today. How Manuel "Swiss Cheese" Akanji is a clear starter for them is still beyond me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris1285 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 2 hours ago, Livertool said: What three matchups? Some old matches against Bayern? Never said Real has sucked every match that they have played nor Pep matches are always good but last year Real lucked out and this year they ran out of luck. And same against Liverpool too recently, Real has sucked big time but unlike Pep Klopp didn't manage to break Real tactics. So credit must be given were it should go. No? Lots of examples of that happening. Just look at what Chelsea has been doing for years already. Everyone they get turns to bad in there, including quality players from City like Sterling. And how much quality players they are before they play under Pep? I think Wudu's post says a lot: 😂 The three matchups Real won the exact same way on the title run last year. I talked about those together, because that's the proof it was not about a lucky few minutes. Mentality. Sucked big time? Okay. Chelsea is a different animal, they buy plenty of players at every possible transfer window, and change coaches every month. That's surreal even for Soccer Manager. I hope you see the difference. Also, I don't see many really good players there, Havertz, Enzo, James, Mount, Koulibaly, and here I should look up the squad for more... Most of their key players got old and injury prone. I honestly don't see here "16-18 absolute world-class who would be in the starting eleven anywhere else". Sterling was on a heavy decline, he is far from a quality player. I don't know about Akanji, just because WuDu doesn't like him, he could very well be a world-class player. Even Pep can't make him that only in a few months, impossible. However, he is a good mentor for players, I have always admitted that here. On a side note, Chelsea won a couple of Premier League, and also two Champions League trophies since Pep won his last (until this May). Sounds like an own goal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuDu Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 6 hours ago, cris1285 said: I don't know about Akanji, just because WuDu doesn't like him, he could very well be a world-class player. You have to be kidding me. 1 We're gonna win on so many levels! We're gonna win, win, win. You're gonna get so tired of winning, you're gonna say: "Mr. President please, we don't wanna win anymore, it's too much!" And I'm gonna say: "I'm sorry, we're gonna keep winning because we're gonna make America great again!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 (edited) 19 hours ago, cris1285 said: that's the proof it was not about a lucky few minutes. Mentality. Sucked big time? Okay. Few examples from that "amazing" title run last year: PSG - Real Goal attempts: 22 - 3 Shots on target: 8 - 0 Real - PSG 0-1 down until 61th minute and then later magical 2 minutes again where they scored 2 goals. Liverpool - Real final Goal attempts: 23 - 3 Shots on goal 9 - 1 In between they barely managed to win Chelsea on extra time, team that yourself admit sucks big time. I understand that Real fans accept those wins and title, i would but other than that you got to be braindamaged to claim they won with playing good and entertaining football. 19 hours ago, cris1285 said: Even Pep can't make him that only in a few months, impossible Agree. Even mediocre player can look like quality player when they get to play in good team 😉 Edited May 20 by Livertool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris1285 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Livertool said: Few examples from that "amazing" title run last year: PSG - Real Goal attempts: 22 - 3 Shots on target: 8 - 0 Real - PSG 0-1 down until 61th minute and then later magical 2 minutes again where they scored 2 goals. Liverpool - Real final Goal attempts: 23 - 3 Shots on goal 9 - 1 In between they barely managed to win Chelsea on extra time, team that yourself admit sucks big time. I understand that Real fans accept those wins and title, i would but other than that you got to be braindamaged to claim they won with playing good and entertaining football. Agree. Even mediocre player can look like quality player when they get to play in good team 😉 I think you have lost the plot. Even as a neutral fan, the title run (and not the football) was dramatic and that's why we can call it entertaining. Of course, not for PSG, Chelsea, Manchester City, and Loserpool fans. Ancelotti had a nearly perfect game plan for the first game. I didn't say (!) it was entertaining at all, you asked (tried to bully) "@cris1285 still thinks better and more entertaining team lost?" If you ask it that way, yep, Real was the better and more entertaining team on that given day. But I wouldn't say the football they play in general is amazing and the best, never said that. Much more enjoyable than City though. I get you are still bitter as a Pool fan and upset about Real for those 2 lost CL finals. Accept that, all I can say. Need players with bigger balls and bigger hearts to change that next time. If there will be next time... This was a good exchange of views, and pretty enjoyable with stats, facts, and opinions. However, when you call others "braindamaged" you surely lose it. Edited May 20 by cris1285 edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, cris1285 said: However, when you call others "braindamaged" Just a figure of speech, no need to be upset. 1 hour ago, cris1285 said: I get you are still bitter as a Pool fan and upset about Real for those 2 lost CL finals Sure i am. One team entered the field to play and other to defend. And not only as pool fan but football fan overall. These teams spend hundreds of millions and suppose to be best teams in Europe so i expect better than bus parked in front of goal for 85 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted May 21 Author Share Posted May 21 20 minutes to go, you are 0-1 down and need to win the match in order to have any hopes to play cl next season. Would you bring in Milner to save the day? Fcking Klopp, don't know what has happened to him 🤯 Yeah it was Milner's last chance to play Anfield but so what, i guess individuals and their feelings are more important than tream success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livertool Posted Tuesday at 03:33 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 03:33 PM What ever happened to times when men were men? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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